Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

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09-05-2020, 10:38 AM
Kyp

And this one from Khorasan who says to have Fars, Tork and Kord ancestry:

Gedrosian: 26.52
Siberian: 2.40
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.55
North_European: 10.63
South_Asian 5.65
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 8.98
East_Asian: 5.68
Caucasian: 31.59
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: KT
4.10090234 Iran_Khorasan
7.40851537 Turkmens
8.15612653 Turkmen_Iran
9.55277970 Iranian_Fars
10.29052963 Azerbaijani
10.52925923 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.80070337 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.15964226 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.42550603 Iranian
12.69925195 Kurd_Sorani
12.78602362 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.79970312 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.82699107 Turk_Southeast
12.83448090 Tajik_Herat
13.10861930 Lur_Iran
13.42496182 Iran_Mazandaran
13.63755477 Turkmen_Iraq
13.75652209 Zaza
14.12448583 Turk_South
14.23556111 Yoruk
14.98271337 Parsi_India
15.00065999 Kurd_KAZ
15.11491978 Turk_Anatolia
15.41324106 Turk_Central_East
15.43240422 Turk_Central_West
15.48777582 Turk_Southwest

Target: KT
Distance: 2.3505% / 2.35046862 | ADC: 0.25x
35.0 Azerbaijani
31.0 Turkmens
14.6 Tajik_Herat
6.6 Iranian_Fars
5.6 Iran_Mazandaran
5.2 Yagnobi
1.8 French_Basque
09-05-2020, 01:21 PM
Kaspias

An old lady whose father/mother migrated to Anatolia from Kastoria, Greece. Kastoria took only the first wave of the Turkic mass-migration to the Balkans that consists of early Yörüks which belonged to the confederation "Tırhala Yörükleri." Dates between 1430 and 1500.

In this sense, she is a decent example of how Turkic admixture wiped out in the region in 500 years when not supplied with fresh comers. Unmixed Turkish samples from the regions Ioannina, Kastoria, and Trikala are really rare.

Modelling

Spoiler!

https://i.ibb.co/qRQK4tn/118765110-7...44191932-n.png

Target: AO
Distance: 2.3716% / 2.37161551
46.4 Macedonian
45.2 Greek
8.4 Turkmens

Gedmatch

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.5
2 North_European 25.82
3 Atlantic_Med 25.19
4 Southwest_Asian 9.45
5 Gedrosia 6.37
6 Southeast_Asian 1.37
7 Northwest_African 0.79
8 East_African 0.35
9 Sub_Saharan 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 9.03
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.07
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.43
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.31
5 Romanians (Behar) 10.81
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.39
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.88
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.38
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.03
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.06
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.22
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.35
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.99
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.59
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 21.02
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.87
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.72
18 Hungarians (Behar) 25.24
19 Turks (Behar) 26.83
20 Cypriots (Behar) 27.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 48.1% German (Dodecad) @ 2.08
2 59.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.2
3 74.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.75
4 73.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.76
5 59.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.8
6 74.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.89
7 73.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.92
8 77% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.94
9 78.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.94
10 71.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.99
11 74.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.03
12 52% Hungarians (Behar) + 48% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.17
13 66.9% Romanians (Behar) + 33.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.31
14 62.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.36
15 75% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.36
16 58.9% Romanians (Behar) + 41.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.47
17 72.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.53
18 70.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.53
19 73.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
20 72.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.9% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.55

Updated Oracle

Spoiler!

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Macedonia @ 2,803927
2 Turk_Greece @ 4,20688
3 Albanian_Kosovo @ 5,235289
4 Gagauz @ 6,033286
5 Albanian_North @ 6,266904
6 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 6,660653
7 R,Moldova_South @ 7,947235
8 Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,012161
9 Italy_Lazio @ 9,357365
10 Italy_Apulia @ 9,733703
11 Pomak @ 9,837655
12 Greek @ 9,88816
13 Bulgarian @ 10,145015
14 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 10,340534
15 Macedonian @ 10,812239
16 Italy_Marche @ 10,820077
17 Bulgarians @ 11,066872
18 Italy_Abruzzo @ 11,246642
19 Italy_Romagna @ 11,27285
20 Romanians @ 11,663915
21 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,91506
22 Montenegrin @ 13,172092
23 Italy_Tuscany @ 13,509545
24 Italy_Campania @ 13,797699
25 Italy_Sicily @ 13,817767
26 Italy_FriuliVG @ 13,87619
27 MD_Jewish @ 14,197367
28 Italy_Emilia @ 14,455281
29 Italy_Veneto @ 14,649287
30 Ashkenazi_Jews @ 14,746187
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Crete+Serb @ 1,684031
2 Italy_Apulia+Pomak @ 2,007068
3 Cypriots+German @ 2,330925
4 Bulgarian+Italy_Apulia @ 2,338457
5 Italy_Apulia+Romanians @ 2,365877
6 Greek_Crete+Montenegrin @ 2,559319
7 Bulgarian+Italy_Abruzzo @ 2,599815
8 Gagauz+Italy_Apulia @ 2,602334
9 Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_South @ 2,662454
10 Italy_Apulia+Macedonian @ 2,695457
11 Bosnian+Greek_Crete @ 2,713122
12 Turk_Macedonia+Turk_Macedonia @ 2,803927
13 Italy_Abruzzo+Romanians @ 2,83462
14 Italy_Campania+Romanians @ 2,951336
15 Cypriots+Slovenian @ 2,952664
16 Italy_Sicily+Romanians @ 2,974067
17 Cypriots+Slovak @ 2,994786
18 Italy_Abruzzo+Pomak @ 3,00066
19 Greek_Cappadocia+Slovenian @ 3,022877
20 Croat+Greek_Crete @ 3,040306
21 Greek_Crete+HUN_Szekely @ 3,071872
22 Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,090423
23 Albanian_Kosovo+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,090782
24 Bulgarians+Italy_Apulia @ 3,100898
25 Greek+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,12061
26 Italy_Campania+Pomak @ 3,15006
27 Turk_Greece+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,210395
28 Bulgarian+Italy_Campania @ 3,247966
29 Greek+R,Moldova_South @ 3,279555
30 Macedonian+MD_Jewish @ 3,29421
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Crete +25% Croat +25% Macedonian @ 1,56992
2 50% Gagauz +25% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,585042
3 50% Gagauz +25% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,619652
4 50% Gagauz +25% Albanian_North +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,62386
5 50% Bulgarian +25% Italy_Trentino +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,625851
6 50% R,Moldova_South +25% Greek_Crete +25% Turk_Macedonia @ 1,626646
7 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bulgarian +25% Slovenian @ 1,626918
8 50% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete +25% R,Moldova_South @ 1,631242
9 50% Pomak +25% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Italy_FriuliVG @ 1,657905
10 50% Greek_Crete +25% Croat +25% Montenegrin @ 1,662747
11 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bosnian +25% Montenegrin @ 1,671337
12 50% Cypriots +25% German +25% Slovenian @ 1,679627
13 50% Greek_Crete +25% Serb +25% Serb @ 1,684031
14 50% Greek_Crete +25% Gagauz +25% Hungarians @ 1,69284
15 50% Croat +25% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Italy_Calabria @ 1,694696
16 50% Cypriots +25% Bavarian_German +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 1,694785
17 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bosnian +25% Macedonian @ 1,707575
18 50% Macedonian +25% Cypriots +25% R,Moldova_South @ 1,713446
19 50% Greek_Crete +25% Gagauz +25% Slovenian @ 1,720236
20 50% Macedonian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,723421
21 50% Albanian_North +25% Bosnian +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,724797
22 50% Greek_Crete +25% Romanians +25% Slovenian @ 1,731092
23 50% Gagauz +25% Turk_Macedonia +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,736133
24 50% Albanian_North +25% Croat +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,741933
25 50% Cypriots +25% Serb +25% Swedish @ 1,742773
26 50% Cypriots +25% Bavarian_German +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,744157
27 50% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete +25% R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 1,748063
28 50% Croat +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,754949
29 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bulgarians +25% Slovenian @ 1,755387
30 50% Greek_Crete +25% Greek +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 1,7582
9316832 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Macedonian+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovenian @ 1,437527
2 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Pomak @ 1,50314
3 Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Macedonian+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,513391
4 Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Slovenian+MD_Jewish @ 1,548138
5 Bulgarians+German+Greek_Cappadocia+MD_Jewish @ 1,549109
6 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+PL_GreaterPol and @ 1,559949
7 Croat+Greek_Crete+Greek_Crete+Macedonian @ 1,56992
8 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,570103
9 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+PL_GreaterPo land @ 1,57068
10 Cypriots+Italy_Lazio+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Macedon ia @ 1,571405
11 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Campania+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,574294
12 Croat+Greek+Montenegrin+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,57686
13 Gagauz+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,585042
14 Bulgarian+German+Greek_Cappadocia+MD_Jewish @ 1,590393
15 Greek+Montenegrin+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovenian @ 1,590837
16 Greek_Crete+Pomak+R,Moldova_South+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,597963
17 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Sloven ian @ 1,599894
18 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,600237
19 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Hungarians+Montene grin @ 1,600474
20 Albanian_North+Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+PL_ GreaterPoland @ 1,601753
21 Cypriots+Italy_Marche+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Macedo nia @ 1,605643
22 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+PL_GreaterPola nd @ 1,606784
23 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland+R,Moldova _Gagauz @ 1,607713
24 Ashkenazi_Jews+Bulgarian+German+Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,608744
25 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Emilia+Ukrainia n @ 1,61003
26 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+PL_GreaterPoland+M D_Jewish @ 1,612104
27 Cypriots+Italy_Abruzzo+PL_Warmia-Masuria+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,614013
28 Belorussian+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Tus cany @ 1,615426
29 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovak @ 1,616043
30 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovak+Swiss_Italian @ 1,616454
31 Cypriots+Italy_Marche+Turk_Macedonia+Ukrainian @ 1,616524
32 Greek+Greek_Crete+Italy_Apulia+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,617928
33 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Mazo via @ 1,618201
34 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Romagna+PL_Warm ia-Masuria @ 1,619115
35 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,619652
36 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Abruzzo+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,620466
37 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland+R,Moldova _South @ 1,623356
38 Albanian_North+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,62386
39 Bulgarian+Bulgarian+Italy_Trentino+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,625851
40 Greek_Crete+R,Moldova_South+R,Moldova_South+Turk_M acedonia @ 1,626646
41 Bulgarian+Greek_Crete+Greek_Crete+Slovenian @ 1,626918
42 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Liguria+Ukraini an @ 1,629046
43 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Ukr ainian @ 1,63016
44 Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete+R,Moldova_South @ 1,631242
45 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Slovenian+Turk_Greece @ 1,631464
46 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Serb+Slovenian @ 1,632421
47 Croat+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Serb @ 1,634118
48 Croat+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+Serb @ 1,636099
49 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Croat+Greek_Cr ete @ 1,636167
50 Bulgarian+Cypriots+German+Italy_Apulia @ 1,636405
51 Bulgarian+German+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,638852
52 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,639623
53 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Slovenian+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,641014
54 Greek_Cappadocia+Hungarians+Montenegrin+MD_Jewish @ 1,641478
55 Ashkenazi_Jews+Croat+Greek_Cappadocia+Serb @ 1,641989
56 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,645375
57 Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_South+Slovak @ 1,646795
58 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_Warmia-Masuria+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,647084
59 Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Pomak+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,647834
60 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Uk rainian @ 1,650622
60723404 iterations.

Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,421402

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Albanian_Kosovo @ 3,771053
2 Turk_Macedonia @ 3,858765
3 Gagauz @ 4,472518
4 Albanian_North @ 4,476288
5 Italy_Romagna @ 4,707962
6 Macedonian @ 4,99002
7 R,Moldova_South @ 5,0545
8 Pomak @ 5,110519
9 Italy_Tuscany @ 5,132997
10 Greek @ 5,282558
11 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 5,302985
12 Italy_Lazio @ 5,409256
13 Turk_Greece @ 5,440798
14 Italy_Emilia @ 5,567275
15 Italy_Veneto @ 5,671971
16 Italy_Marche @ 5,782269
17 Montenegrin @ 5,826096
18 Italy_FriuliVG @ 5,934834
19 Bulgarian @ 5,940086
20 Italy_Liguria @ 5,946399
21 Italy_Apulia @ 6,054269
22 Italy_Abruzzo @ 6,17205
23 Italy_Piedmont @ 6,194
24 Italy_Lombardy @ 6,365389
25 Turk_Bulgaria @ 6,622381
26 Romanians @ 6,677359
27 Italy_Trentino @ 6,679844
28 Serb @ 6,726896
29 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 6,737689
30 France_Corsica @ 6,960379
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Cypriots+Slovenian @ 3,61938
2 Cypriots+German @ 3,657871
3 Cypriots+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,691351
4 Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,740531
5 Albanian_Kosovo+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,744213
6 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_Kosovo @ 3,771053
7 Dutch+Georgia_Jews @ 3,782391
8 Greek+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,811916
9 Greek_Cappadocia+Slovenian @ 3,843666
10 British_Isles+Georgia_Jews @ 3,854604
11 Croat+Cypriots @ 3,855013
12 Turk_Macedonia+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,858765
13 English_Kent+Georgia_Jews @ 3,883962
14 Greek+Macedonian @ 3,884397
15 CEU30+Georgia_Jews @ 3,888002
16 Cypriots+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,890612
17 English+Georgia_Jews @ 3,900315
18 Georgia_Jews+Mixed_NW_Euro @ 3,908588
19 Albanian_North+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,93953
20 Croat+Greek_Cappadocia @ 3,969592
21 Italy_Romagna+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,994077
22 Croat+Greek_Crete @ 3,999612
23 Gagauz+Greek @ 3,999987
24 French+Georgia_Jews @ 4,018428
25 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek @ 4,03199
26 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_North @ 4,059206
27 Cypriots+Slovak @ 4,086983
28 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz @ 4,088273
29 British+Georgia_Jews @ 4,093577
30 Albanian_Kosovo+Italy_Romagna @ 4,096379
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,141165
2 50% German +25% Cypriots +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,141946
3 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,181252
4 50% Italy_Tuscany +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,197324
5 50% Albanian_North +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,237109
6 50% Italy_Trentino +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,271589
7 50% Slovenian +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,273165
8 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,284603
9 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,285884
10 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,290218
11 50% Albanian_North +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,315523
12 50% Macedonian +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Trentino @ 3,322539
13 50% Italy_Trentino +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Macedonian @ 3,330671
14 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,333178
15 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,339141
16 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,340845
17 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Romagna @ 3,343102
18 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Tuscany @ 3,343539
19 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Dutch +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,349422
20 50% Bavarian_German +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,351211
21 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,351372
22 50% Greek +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Swedish @ 3,363224
23 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Laz +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,366572
24 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Mixed_NW_Euro @ 3,369412
25 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,374932
26 50% Albanian_North +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,375633
27 50% Italy_Tuscany +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,376052
28 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Bavarian_German +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,384243
29 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,385529
30 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% French +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,38816
14136969 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+PL_GreaterPoland @ 2,978989
2 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Trentino @ 3,013284
3 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Veneto @ 3,019521
4 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,043098
5 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+Slovenian @ 3,044798
6 Georgia_Jews+Greek+PL_GreaterPoland+Swiss_Italian @ 3,093097
7 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Lombardy+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,095429
8 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Tuscany+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,097819
9 Croat+French+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,109893
10 Croat+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino @ 3,131021
11 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,13572
12 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,138888
13 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Germa n @ 3,141165
14 Cypriots+Georgia_Jews+German+German @ 3,141946
15 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Romagna @ 3,152202
16 Albanian_Kosovo+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino @ 3,15228
17 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,158146
18 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Romagna @ 3,164504
19 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino+Sloven ian @ 3,167599
20 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+Slovenian @ 3,170049
21 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Macedonian @ 3,170841
22 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Swiss_Italian @ 3,172589
23 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,1739
24 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Romagna+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,174502
25 Albanian_North+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino @ 3,17636
26 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,176805
27 French+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian @ 3,177424
28 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,18016
29 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Grea terPoland @ 3,180906
30 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Romagna+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,181252
31 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,181547
32 Croat+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,183466
33 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_FriuliVG @ 3,189018
34 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Veneto @ 3,189528
35 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,189968
36 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian+Swiss_Italian @ 3,191378
37 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Piedmont+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,191448
38 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_FriuliVG+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,193208
39 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,193426
40 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Romagna @ 3,193572
41 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,194352
42 Bavarian_German+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian @ 3,197123
43 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,197324
44 Bavarian_German+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,19767
45 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Lombardy @ 3,198848
46 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL_Grea terPoland @ 3,199257
47 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,199639
48 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Veneto+PL_Greater Poland @ 3,200234
49 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino+Sloveni an @ 3,207439
50 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,209162
51 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Slovenia n @ 3,209407
52 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Emilia+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,211669
53 Croat+French2+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,213903
54 Cypriots+French+Georgia_Jews+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,216464
55 Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino @ 3,223459
56 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Slovenian @ 3,224833
57 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino+Slovenia n @ 3,22727
58 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Aosta_Valley+PL_GreaterPo land @ 3,23079
59 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Veneto @ 3,23114
60 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Tuscany+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,234282
216634130 iterations.
09-05-2020, 01:26 PM
Leto

Almost completely Southeast European.
09-05-2020, 01:30 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaspias

An old lady whose father/mother migrated to Anatolia from Kastoria, Greece. Kastoria took only the first wave of the Turkic mass-migration to the Balkans that consists of early Yörüks which belonged to the confederation "Tırhala Yörükleri." Dates between 1430 and 1500.

In this sense, she is a decent example of how Turkic admixture wiped out in the region in 500 years when not supplied with fresh comers. Unmixed Turkish samples from the regions Ioannina, Kastoria, and Trikala are really rare.

Modelling

Spoiler!

https://i.ibb.co/qRQK4tn/118765110-7...44191932-n.png

Target: AO
Distance: 2.3716% / 2.37161551
46.4 Macedonian
45.2 Greek
8.4 Turkmens

Gedmatch

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.5
2 North_European 25.82
3 Atlantic_Med 25.19
4 Southwest_Asian 9.45
5 Gedrosia 6.37
6 Southeast_Asian 1.37
7 Northwest_African 0.79
8 East_African 0.35
9 Sub_Saharan 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 9.03
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.07
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.43
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.31
5 Romanians (Behar) 10.81
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.39
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.88
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.38
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.03
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.06
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.22
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.35
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.99
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.59
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 21.02
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.87
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.72
18 Hungarians (Behar) 25.24
19 Turks (Behar) 26.83
20 Cypriots (Behar) 27.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 48.1% German (Dodecad) @ 2.08
2 59.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.2
3 74.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.75
4 73.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.76
5 59.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.8
6 74.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.89
7 73.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.92
8 77% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.94
9 78.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.94
10 71.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.99
11 74.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.03
12 52% Hungarians (Behar) + 48% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.17
13 66.9% Romanians (Behar) + 33.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.31
14 62.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.36
15 75% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.36
16 58.9% Romanians (Behar) + 41.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.47
17 72.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.53
18 70.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.53
19 73.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
20 72.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.9% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.55

Updated Oracle

Spoiler!

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Macedonia @ 2,803927
2 Turk_Greece @ 4,20688
3 Albanian_Kosovo @ 5,235289
4 Gagauz @ 6,033286
5 Albanian_North @ 6,266904
6 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 6,660653
7 R,Moldova_South @ 7,947235
8 Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,012161
9 Italy_Lazio @ 9,357365
10 Italy_Apulia @ 9,733703
11 Pomak @ 9,837655
12 Greek @ 9,88816
13 Bulgarian @ 10,145015
14 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 10,340534
15 Macedonian @ 10,812239
16 Italy_Marche @ 10,820077
17 Bulgarians @ 11,066872
18 Italy_Abruzzo @ 11,246642
19 Italy_Romagna @ 11,27285
20 Romanians @ 11,663915
21 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,91506
22 Montenegrin @ 13,172092
23 Italy_Tuscany @ 13,509545
24 Italy_Campania @ 13,797699
25 Italy_Sicily @ 13,817767
26 Italy_FriuliVG @ 13,87619
27 MD_Jewish @ 14,197367
28 Italy_Emilia @ 14,455281
29 Italy_Veneto @ 14,649287
30 Ashkenazi_Jews @ 14,746187
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Crete+Serb @ 1,684031
2 Italy_Apulia+Pomak @ 2,007068
3 Cypriots+German @ 2,330925
4 Bulgarian+Italy_Apulia @ 2,338457
5 Italy_Apulia+Romanians @ 2,365877
6 Greek_Crete+Montenegrin @ 2,559319
7 Bulgarian+Italy_Abruzzo @ 2,599815
8 Gagauz+Italy_Apulia @ 2,602334
9 Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_South @ 2,662454
10 Italy_Apulia+Macedonian @ 2,695457
11 Bosnian+Greek_Crete @ 2,713122
12 Turk_Macedonia+Turk_Macedonia @ 2,803927
13 Italy_Abruzzo+Romanians @ 2,83462
14 Italy_Campania+Romanians @ 2,951336
15 Cypriots+Slovenian @ 2,952664
16 Italy_Sicily+Romanians @ 2,974067
17 Cypriots+Slovak @ 2,994786
18 Italy_Abruzzo+Pomak @ 3,00066
19 Greek_Cappadocia+Slovenian @ 3,022877
20 Croat+Greek_Crete @ 3,040306
21 Greek_Crete+HUN_Szekely @ 3,071872
22 Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,090423
23 Albanian_Kosovo+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,090782
24 Bulgarians+Italy_Apulia @ 3,100898
25 Greek+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,12061
26 Italy_Campania+Pomak @ 3,15006
27 Turk_Greece+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,210395
28 Bulgarian+Italy_Campania @ 3,247966
29 Greek+R,Moldova_South @ 3,279555
30 Macedonian+MD_Jewish @ 3,29421
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Crete +25% Croat +25% Macedonian @ 1,56992
2 50% Gagauz +25% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,585042
3 50% Gagauz +25% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,619652
4 50% Gagauz +25% Albanian_North +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,62386
5 50% Bulgarian +25% Italy_Trentino +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,625851
6 50% R,Moldova_South +25% Greek_Crete +25% Turk_Macedonia @ 1,626646
7 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bulgarian +25% Slovenian @ 1,626918
8 50% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete +25% R,Moldova_South @ 1,631242
9 50% Pomak +25% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Italy_FriuliVG @ 1,657905
10 50% Greek_Crete +25% Croat +25% Montenegrin @ 1,662747
11 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bosnian +25% Montenegrin @ 1,671337
12 50% Cypriots +25% German +25% Slovenian @ 1,679627
13 50% Greek_Crete +25% Serb +25% Serb @ 1,684031
14 50% Greek_Crete +25% Gagauz +25% Hungarians @ 1,69284
15 50% Croat +25% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Italy_Calabria @ 1,694696
16 50% Cypriots +25% Bavarian_German +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 1,694785
17 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bosnian +25% Macedonian @ 1,707575
18 50% Macedonian +25% Cypriots +25% R,Moldova_South @ 1,713446
19 50% Greek_Crete +25% Gagauz +25% Slovenian @ 1,720236
20 50% Macedonian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,723421
21 50% Albanian_North +25% Bosnian +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,724797
22 50% Greek_Crete +25% Romanians +25% Slovenian @ 1,731092
23 50% Gagauz +25% Turk_Macedonia +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,736133
24 50% Albanian_North +25% Croat +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,741933
25 50% Cypriots +25% Serb +25% Swedish @ 1,742773
26 50% Cypriots +25% Bavarian_German +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,744157
27 50% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete +25% R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 1,748063
28 50% Croat +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,754949
29 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bulgarians +25% Slovenian @ 1,755387
30 50% Greek_Crete +25% Greek +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 1,7582
9316832 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Macedonian+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovenian @ 1,437527
2 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Pomak @ 1,50314
3 Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Macedonian+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,513391
4 Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Slovenian+MD_Jewish @ 1,548138
5 Bulgarians+German+Greek_Cappadocia+MD_Jewish @ 1,549109
6 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+PL_GreaterPol and @ 1,559949
7 Croat+Greek_Crete+Greek_Crete+Macedonian @ 1,56992
8 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,570103
9 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+PL_GreaterPo land @ 1,57068
10 Cypriots+Italy_Lazio+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Macedon ia @ 1,571405
11 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Campania+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,574294
12 Croat+Greek+Montenegrin+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,57686
13 Gagauz+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,585042
14 Bulgarian+German+Greek_Cappadocia+MD_Jewish @ 1,590393
15 Greek+Montenegrin+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovenian @ 1,590837
16 Greek_Crete+Pomak+R,Moldova_South+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,597963
17 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Sloven ian @ 1,599894
18 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,600237
19 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Hungarians+Montene grin @ 1,600474
20 Albanian_North+Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+PL_ GreaterPoland @ 1,601753
21 Cypriots+Italy_Marche+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Macedo nia @ 1,605643
22 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+PL_GreaterPola nd @ 1,606784
23 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland+R,Moldova _Gagauz @ 1,607713
24 Ashkenazi_Jews+Bulgarian+German+Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,608744
25 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Emilia+Ukrainia n @ 1,61003
26 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+PL_GreaterPoland+M D_Jewish @ 1,612104
27 Cypriots+Italy_Abruzzo+PL_Warmia-Masuria+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,614013
28 Belorussian+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Tus cany @ 1,615426
29 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovak @ 1,616043
30 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovak+Swiss_Italian @ 1,616454
31 Cypriots+Italy_Marche+Turk_Macedonia+Ukrainian @ 1,616524
32 Greek+Greek_Crete+Italy_Apulia+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,617928
33 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Mazo via @ 1,618201
34 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Romagna+PL_Warm ia-Masuria @ 1,619115
35 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,619652
36 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Abruzzo+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,620466
37 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland+R,Moldova _South @ 1,623356
38 Albanian_North+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,62386
39 Bulgarian+Bulgarian+Italy_Trentino+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,625851
40 Greek_Crete+R,Moldova_South+R,Moldova_South+Turk_M acedonia @ 1,626646
41 Bulgarian+Greek_Crete+Greek_Crete+Slovenian @ 1,626918
42 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Liguria+Ukraini an @ 1,629046
43 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Ukr ainian @ 1,63016
44 Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete+R,Moldova_South @ 1,631242
45 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Slovenian+Turk_Greece @ 1,631464
46 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Serb+Slovenian @ 1,632421
47 Croat+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Serb @ 1,634118
48 Croat+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+Serb @ 1,636099
49 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Croat+Greek_Cr ete @ 1,636167
50 Bulgarian+Cypriots+German+Italy_Apulia @ 1,636405
51 Bulgarian+German+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,638852
52 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,639623
53 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Slovenian+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,641014
54 Greek_Cappadocia+Hungarians+Montenegrin+MD_Jewish @ 1,641478
55 Ashkenazi_Jews+Croat+Greek_Cappadocia+Serb @ 1,641989
56 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,645375
57 Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_South+Slovak @ 1,646795
58 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_Warmia-Masuria+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,647084
59 Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Pomak+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,647834
60 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Uk rainian @ 1,650622
60723404 iterations.

Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,421402

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Albanian_Kosovo @ 3,771053
2 Turk_Macedonia @ 3,858765
3 Gagauz @ 4,472518
4 Albanian_North @ 4,476288
5 Italy_Romagna @ 4,707962
6 Macedonian @ 4,99002
7 R,Moldova_South @ 5,0545
8 Pomak @ 5,110519
9 Italy_Tuscany @ 5,132997
10 Greek @ 5,282558
11 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 5,302985
12 Italy_Lazio @ 5,409256
13 Turk_Greece @ 5,440798
14 Italy_Emilia @ 5,567275
15 Italy_Veneto @ 5,671971
16 Italy_Marche @ 5,782269
17 Montenegrin @ 5,826096
18 Italy_FriuliVG @ 5,934834
19 Bulgarian @ 5,940086
20 Italy_Liguria @ 5,946399
21 Italy_Apulia @ 6,054269
22 Italy_Abruzzo @ 6,17205
23 Italy_Piedmont @ 6,194
24 Italy_Lombardy @ 6,365389
25 Turk_Bulgaria @ 6,622381
26 Romanians @ 6,677359
27 Italy_Trentino @ 6,679844
28 Serb @ 6,726896
29 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 6,737689
30 France_Corsica @ 6,960379
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Cypriots+Slovenian @ 3,61938
2 Cypriots+German @ 3,657871
3 Cypriots+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,691351
4 Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,740531
5 Albanian_Kosovo+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,744213
6 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_Kosovo @ 3,771053
7 Dutch+Georgia_Jews @ 3,782391
8 Greek+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,811916
9 Greek_Cappadocia+Slovenian @ 3,843666
10 British_Isles+Georgia_Jews @ 3,854604
11 Croat+Cypriots @ 3,855013
12 Turk_Macedonia+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,858765
13 English_Kent+Georgia_Jews @ 3,883962
14 Greek+Macedonian @ 3,884397
15 CEU30+Georgia_Jews @ 3,888002
16 Cypriots+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,890612
17 English+Georgia_Jews @ 3,900315
18 Georgia_Jews+Mixed_NW_Euro @ 3,908588
19 Albanian_North+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,93953
20 Croat+Greek_Cappadocia @ 3,969592
21 Italy_Romagna+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,994077
22 Croat+Greek_Crete @ 3,999612
23 Gagauz+Greek @ 3,999987
24 French+Georgia_Jews @ 4,018428
25 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek @ 4,03199
26 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_North @ 4,059206
27 Cypriots+Slovak @ 4,086983
28 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz @ 4,088273
29 British+Georgia_Jews @ 4,093577
30 Albanian_Kosovo+Italy_Romagna @ 4,096379
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,141165
2 50% German +25% Cypriots +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,141946
3 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,181252
4 50% Italy_Tuscany +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,197324
5 50% Albanian_North +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,237109
6 50% Italy_Trentino +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,271589
7 50% Slovenian +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,273165
8 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,284603
9 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,285884
10 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,290218
11 50% Albanian_North +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,315523
12 50% Macedonian +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Trentino @ 3,322539
13 50% Italy_Trentino +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Macedonian @ 3,330671
14 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,333178
15 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,339141
16 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,340845
17 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Romagna @ 3,343102
18 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Tuscany @ 3,343539
19 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Dutch +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,349422
20 50% Bavarian_German +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,351211
21 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,351372
22 50% Greek +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Swedish @ 3,363224
23 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Laz +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,366572
24 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Mixed_NW_Euro @ 3,369412
25 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,374932
26 50% Albanian_North +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,375633
27 50% Italy_Tuscany +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,376052
28 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Bavarian_German +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,384243
29 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,385529
30 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% French +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,38816
14136969 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+PL_GreaterPoland @ 2,978989
2 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Trentino @ 3,013284
3 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Veneto @ 3,019521
4 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,043098
5 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+Slovenian @ 3,044798
6 Georgia_Jews+Greek+PL_GreaterPoland+Swiss_Italian @ 3,093097
7 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Lombardy+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,095429
8 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Tuscany+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,097819
9 Croat+French+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,109893
10 Croat+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino @ 3,131021
11 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,13572
12 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,138888
13 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Germa n @ 3,141165
14 Cypriots+Georgia_Jews+German+German @ 3,141946
15 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Romagna @ 3,152202
16 Albanian_Kosovo+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino @ 3,15228
17 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,158146
18 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Romagna @ 3,164504
19 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino+Sloven ian @ 3,167599
20 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+Slovenian @ 3,170049
21 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Macedonian @ 3,170841
22 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Swiss_Italian @ 3,172589
23 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,1739
24 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Romagna+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,174502
25 Albanian_North+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino @ 3,17636
26 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,176805
27 French+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian @ 3,177424
28 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,18016
29 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Grea terPoland @ 3,180906
30 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Romagna+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,181252
31 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,181547
32 Croat+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,183466
33 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_FriuliVG @ 3,189018
34 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Veneto @ 3,189528
35 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,189968
36 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian+Swiss_Italian @ 3,191378
37 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Piedmont+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,191448
38 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_FriuliVG+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,193208
39 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,193426
40 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Romagna @ 3,193572
41 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,194352
42 Bavarian_German+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian @ 3,197123
43 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,197324
44 Bavarian_German+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,19767
45 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Lombardy @ 3,198848
46 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL_Grea terPoland @ 3,199257
47 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,199639
48 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Veneto+PL_Greater Poland @ 3,200234
49 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino+Sloveni an @ 3,207439
50 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,209162
51 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Slovenia n @ 3,209407
52 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Emilia+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,211669
53 Croat+French2+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,213903
54 Cypriots+French+Georgia_Jews+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,216464
55 Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino @ 3,223459
56 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Slovenian @ 3,224833
57 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino+Slovenia n @ 3,22727
58 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Aosta_Valley+PL_GreaterPo land @ 3,23079
59 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Veneto @ 3,23114
60 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Tuscany+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,234282
216634130 iterations.

Can you post your ss for this model? This also supports your previous claims about the difference between early and late Turkic migrations.
09-05-2020, 01:44 PM
Kaspias

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

Can you post your ss for this model? This also supports your previous claims about the difference between early and late Turkic migrations.

Eurogenes K13:

Code:

Slavic,29.0666666666667,43.6966666666667,12.0566666666667,5.82666666666667,4.68666666666667,0.736666666666667,0.163333333333333,0,2.05,0.836666666666667,0.223333333333333,0.633333333333333,0 Paleo-Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp,8.75,3.2 4,32.05,13.71,37.05,3.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.58, 0.00,0.00 Paleo-Balkan:2,19.4060137457045,11.9784536082474,22.5807216494845,12.9228865979381,26.8988659793814,5.59920962199313,-0.0213745704467353,0.468213058419244,-0.591752577319588,0.21381443298969,0.678659793814434,-0.13127147766323,0 Paleo-Balkan:BGR_IA,25.28,3.38,29.68,9.14,27.88,4.63,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 Turkic_Oghuz:Gokturk_DA89_Kazakhstan_607th_AD,23.34,24.27,0,17.19,0,0,0,5.24,26.14,0,0,0,3.81

https://i.ibb.co/F5tDFYY/Ads-z.png

You can also add this:

Code:

Turkic_Kipchak:DA142_620-920_AD,18.7,25.79,3.41,17.67,0,0,2.23,4.66,25.32,1.99,0.22,0,0
09-05-2020, 01:59 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaspias

Eurogenes K13:

Code:

Slavic,29.0666666666667,43.6966666666667,12.0566666666667,5.82666666666667,4.68666666666667,0.736666666666667,0.163333333333333,0,2.05,0.836666666666667,0.223333333333333,0.633333333333333,0 Paleo-Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp,8.75,3.2 4,32.05,13.71,37.05,3.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.58, 0.00,0.00 Paleo-Balkan:2,19.4060137457045,11.9784536082474,22.5807216494845,12.9228865979381,26.8988659793814,5.59920962199313,-0.0213745704467353,0.468213058419244,-0.591752577319588,0.21381443298969,0.678659793814434,-0.13127147766323,0 Paleo-Balkan:BGR_IA,25.28,3.38,29.68,9.14,27.88,4.63,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 Turkic_Oghuz:Gokturk_DA89_Kazakhstan_607th_AD,23.34,24.27,0,17.19,0,0,0,5.24,26.14,0,0,0,3.81

https://i.ibb.co/F5tDFYY/Ads-z.png

You can also add this:

Code:

Turkic_Kipchak:DA142_620-920_AD,18.7,25.79,3.41,17.67,0,0,2.23,4.66,25.32,1.99,0.22,0,0

Target: Thracian
Distance: 670.2118% / 6.70211839 | ADC: 0.25x
76.2 Paleo-Balkan
19.8 Turkic_Oghuz
4.0 Slavic

With Kipchaks

Target: Thracian
Distance: 660.9455% / 6.60945481 | ADC: 0.25x
75.4 Paleo-Balkan
17.0 Turkic_Kipchak
4.0 Turkic_Oghuz
3.6 Slavic

Who are Paleo-Balkan 2? And also interestingly your mother scores some Turkic as well (around 1/8). Is that possible?
09-05-2020, 03:05 PM
Leto

Two Georgians (close relatives), presumably some kind of highlanders

Gedrosia 20.27 Pct
Siberian 0.43 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.08 Pct
North_European 17.60 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
East_African 0.06 Pct
Southwest_Asian 5.09 Pct
East_Asian 0.39 Pct
Caucasus 47.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Liana
4.50023333 Circassian
4.96320461 Ossetian
5.45705965 Ingush
6.82762770 Kumyks
7.19978472 Karachay
7.26558325 Balkar
7.61148474 Chechen
8.96039620 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.14702419 Abkhazian
11.81879435 Udi_Azerbaijan

Target: Liana
Distance: 1.9145% / 1.91449916 | ADC: 0.25x
50.4 Chechen
18.8 Abkhazian
18.4 Turk_Ahiska
6.0 Circassian
4.4 Greek
2.0 Balkan_Gypsy

Gedrosia 21.94 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.27 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.08 Pct
North_European 15.62 Pct
South_Asian 0.55 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.47 Pct
East_Asian 0.15 Pct
Caucasus 48.93 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Kh.
5.69028119 Circassian
6.34848013 Ossetian
6.75974112 Ingush
8.32046273 Kumyks
8.45599787 Abkhazian
9.30246741 Karachay
9.50054209 Chechen
9.53611556 Balkar
9.62829684 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.83135291 Turk_Ahiska

Target: Kh.
Distance: 3.0406% / 3.04062463 | ADC: 0.5x
59.0 Ingush
23.2 Turk_Ahiska
17.8 Abkhazian

Target: Kh.
Distance: 2.2512% / 2.25118831 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 Chechen
43.4 Turk_Ahiska
5.8 Abkhazian
1.2 Georgian_Gurian

* * *

Some type of Northwest Caucasian

Gedrosia 17.51 Pct
Siberian 4.23 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.51 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.67 Pct
North_European 17.25 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.68 Pct
East_Asian 1.12 Pct
Caucasus 49.02 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Yelena
2.35346553 Ossetian
2.73654892 Circassian
5.60675485 Kumyks
5.91892727 Balkar
6.14770689 Karachay
6.96239183 Ingush
8.95866620 Abkhazian
9.34285288 Chechen
11.12320547 North_Ossetians
11.63539858 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: Yelena
Distance: 1.9623% / 1.96231999 | ADC: 0.5x
96.6 Ossetian
1.8 Georgian_Gurian
1.6 Samaritians

Target: Yelena
Distance: 1.5451% / 1.54512733 | ADC: 0.25x
86.4 Ossetian
6.2 Georgian_Gurian
3.2 North_Ossetians
2.4 Samaritians
1.4 Bulgarians
0.4 Selkup
09-05-2020, 04:06 PM
Kaspias

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thracian

Target: Thracian
Distance: 670.2118% / 6.70211839 | ADC: 0.25x
76.2 Paleo-Balkan
19.8 Turkic_Oghuz
4.0 Slavic

With Kipchaks

Target: Thracian
Distance: 660.9455% / 6.60945481 | ADC: 0.25x
75.4 Paleo-Balkan
17.0 Turkic_Kipchak
4.0 Turkic_Oghuz
3.6 Slavic

Who are Paleo-Balkan 2? And also interestingly your mother scores some Turkic as well (around 1/8). Is that possible?

Paleo Balkan 2 is Slavic extracted version of modern Vlach. (from Macedonia)

Well, it may be a glitch of the phased kit or could be legit as well. Unfortunately, I can't say surely until test my mother. Both options seems possible tbh.

If we go with genealogy, that's all I know:

https://i.ibb.co/6D0Y4DX/Ads-z.png
09-05-2020, 08:02 PM
Thracian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaspias

Paleo Balkan 2 is Slavic extracted version of modern Vlach. (from Macedonia)

Well, it may be a glitch of the phased kit or could be legit as well. Unfortunately, I can't say surely until test my mother. Both options seems possible tbh.

If we go with genealogy, that's all I know:

https://i.ibb.co/6D0Y4DX/Ads-z.png

According to this one, 1/8 Turkic ancestry looks possible but as you mentioned a DNA test can clarify it. I hope, you will get the chance to take a test for your mother as well. That would be very interesting to see her results.
09-06-2020, 06:56 AM
Kyp

Iranian result (50% Azerbaijani from Urmia + 50% Tat from Qazvin province):

Gedrosian: 21.14
Siberian: 3.48
Northwest_African: 1.38
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 10.03
North_European: 8.89
South_Asian 4.97
East_African 1.01
Southwest_Asian: 12.47
East_Asian: 0.45
Caucasian: 35.49
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Urmia/Takestan
5.25806999 Azerbaijani
5.53018987 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.02420119 Turk_Southeast
6.56620895 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.79015464 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.58364688 Kurd_Sorani
7.78760554 Turkmen_Iraq
8.50411665 Zaza
8.87653085 Turk_South
8.88563447 Iranian_Fars
9.12322860 Turk_Central_East
9.36827092 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.85841772 Turk_Central_West
9.86299650 Iran_Khorasan
9.86586540 Turk_Anatolia
10.32331342 Lur_Iran
10.73127206 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.80138417 Iranian
11.55731370 Turk_Southwest
11.69616176 Turk_East
11.74518199 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.79781759 Kurd_KAZ
11.89698701 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.47881004 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.88814572 Yoruk

Target: Urmia/Takestan
Distance: 1.6724% / 1.67243520 | ADC: 0.25x
38.6 Turk_Southeast
35.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.0 Parsi_India
4.4 Turk_Macedonia
1.8 Italy_Sicily
1.8 Selkup

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