Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

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Originally Posted by Javid

I think these can be considered as minimum EE among Azerbaijanis (turks). They also have the highest North European and the lowest SW Asian for Azerbaijanis

Guba, North Azerbaijan:

Gedrosian: 23.1
Siberian: 2.28
NW African: 0.26
SE Asian: 0.59
Atlantic Med: 7.72
North European: 16.58
South Asian: 1.37
East African: 0.00
SW Asian: 7.00
East Asian 0.00
Caucasus: 41.11
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Darband, Dagestan (Azerbaijani)

Gedrosian: 23.88
Siberian: 1.96
NW African: 0.45
SE Asian: 0.00
Atlantic Med: 6.5
North European: 16.78
South Asian: 2.96
East African: 0.00
SW Asian: 7.07
East Asian 0.28
Caucasus: 40.13
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

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So the Northern European(Turkic-originated) inherited more than usual while EE inherited less than usual in such cases. These two guys probably Turkic as much as the average, but the Turkic admixture they bear is mostly West Eurasian.

I have seen many such cases among Anatolian and Balkan Turks as well.

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

So the Northern European(Turkic-originated) inherited more than usual while EE inherited less than usual in such cases. These two guys probably Turkic as much as the average, but the Turkic admixture they bear is mostly West Eurasian.

I have seen many such cases among Anatolian and Balkan Turks as well.

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I think in this case it's just North Caucasian admixture. Both are either from Dagestan or bordering it (Quba). They probably can be modelled as Azerbaijani + Lezgic

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Originally Posted by Kyp

around 2-3% in Republic and Dagestan

lowest in Iran so far is 4.78%

in Turkey there hasn't been a result below 5%

at least according to my database (n=200)

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Heilige Scheiße, you have 200 Azerbaijanis?! That's huge man and we still use the average of 10 samples, lol. I'd like to see your full Iran/Az spreadsheet including all the stuff I've posted in these threads.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Heilige Scheiße, you have 200 Azerbaijanis?! That's huge man and we still use the average of 10 samples, lol. I'd like to see your full Iran/Az spreadsheet including all the stuff I've posted in these threads.

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Origin is not clear of all kits, so I prefer not to make an average out of all of them. But I can think of making a new average with only 100% Azerbaijani confirmed kits.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

I think in this case it's just North Caucasian admixture. Both are either from Dagestan or bordering it (Quba). They probably can be modelled as Azerbaijani + Lezgic

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That's why I'm still not convinced your supposed Tsakhur is legit. I accept only one Tsakhur as pure, the one that scores like Dagestanis. The other two seem mongrelized Azerbaijanis.

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Originally Posted by Leto

That's why I'm still not convinced your supposed Tsakhur is legit. I accept only one Tsakhur as pure, the one that scores like Dagestanis. The other two seem mongrelized Azerbaijanis.

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The Tsakhur might be mixed with Azerbaijanis by large parts, so that doesn't make the average non-legit. The idea that they have to be 100% Lezgic is stupid. I can say with certainty that all the Tsakhur samples are confirmed legit from Tsakhurs in Azerbaijan.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

I think in this case it's just North Caucasian admixture. Both are either from Dagestan or bordering it (Quba). They probably can be modelled as Azerbaijani + Lezgic

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Yeah, could be. I miss that option.

They model roughly half Eastern Anatolian Turk and half Lezgin:

[1,] "56.3% Lak2 + 43.7% Turk_East" "1.1944"
[2,] "48.1% Dargin + 51.9% Turk_East" "1.262"
[3,] "48.3% Lak + 51.7% Turk_East" "1.4382"
[4,] "33.5% Armenian_West + 66.5% Lak2" "1.4929"
[5,] "51.3% Tabasaran + 48.7% Turk_East" "1.5769"
[6,] "41.2% Armenian_West + 58.8% Dargin" "1.6774"
[7,] "52.9% Lak2 + 47.1% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.6822"
[8,] "59.9% Lezgin + 40.1% Turk_East" "1.7197"
[9,] "32.1% Assyrian_West + 67.9% Lak2" "1.7787"
[10,] "44.6% Dargin + 55.4% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.8012"
[11,] "32.1% Assyrian_South + 67.9% Lak2" "1.8777"
[12,] "32.5% Assyrian_North + 67.5% Lak2" "1.8826"
[13,] "64.2% Chechen + 35.8% Kurd_Kurmanji" "1.9016"
[14,] "41% Armenian_West + 59% Lak" "1.9045"
[15,] "90.1% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 9.9% Greek_Izmir" "1.9071"
[16,] "47.8% Tabasaran + 52.2% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.9123"
[17,] "38.1% Armenian_West + 61.9% Tabasaran" "1.9572"
[18,] "90.9% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 9.1% Greek_Foca" "1.9587"
[19,] "91.3% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 8.7% Greek_Icaria" "1.9815"
[20,] "39.7% Assyrian_West + 60.3% Dargin" "1.9865"

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Origin is not clear of all kits, so I prefer not to make an average out of all of them. But I can think of making a new average with only 100% Azerbaijani confirmed kits.

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The spreadsheet would still be interesting to look at even if most are just marked as IR or AZ.

Some kit

Gedrosia 21.32 Pct
Siberian 2.31 Pct
Northwest_African 1.77 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.18 Pct
North_European 8.67 Pct
South_Asian 3.68 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.41 Pct
East_Asian 4.33 Pct
Caucasus 39.31 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Scarlett
3.04875384 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.68827873 Azerbaijani
4.17549997 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.98009197 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.26530127 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.38536608 Turk_Southeast
6.51859647 Zaza
6.98249239 Kurd_Sorani
7.29171448 Yazidi
8.86822417 Turk_Central_East

Distance: 1.5080% / 1.50795998
Target: Scarlett | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
26.7 Talysh_Azerbaijan
18.8 Kumyks
18.0 Iran_Arab
2.5 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
2.4 Japanese

Distance: 2.8424% / 2.84244929
Target: Scarlett | ADC: 0.5x RC
94.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.2 Nogai
2.4 Kumyks

Magars- Tibeto-Burmese ethnicity
https://genoplot.com/genoplot16.png GenoPlot

Sample	East Asian	Southeast Asian	South Asian	Siberian	Gedrosia	North European	Caucasus	East African	Atlantic Med	Southwest Asian	Northwest African
Magar ► Ma23	71.73	13.13	8.23	6.1	0.81	0	0	0	0	0	0
Magar ► Ma07	53.79	16.3	18.23	7.58	3.76	0	0	0	0.19	0.16	0
Magar ► Ma11	52.44	19.16	14.22	9.33	2.89	0.74	0	0	0.96	0.26	0
Magar ► Ma30	51.28	14.8	19.04	7.73	6.45	0.04	0	0.65	0	0	0
Magar ► Ma28	49.17	13.82	20.11	6.86	9.1	0.62	0.33	0	0	0	0
Magar ► Ma41	45.35	18.15	21.12	5.33	8.8	0.09	0	0	0	0.19	0.98