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01-30-2022, 02:48 PM
Ajeje Brazorf

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Originally Posted by Lucas

Patients from Hamburg hospital

Code:

German_Hamburg_GSM1031510,42.04,32.4,11.76,9.87,1.62,0.35,0.78,0.47,0,0.49,0,0.24,0 German_Hamburg_GSM1031511,36.18,28.02,14.55,9.52,6.2,2.36,0.79,0,0.32,1.2,0.87,0,0 German_Hamburg_GSM1031512,51.98,24.67,9.99,5.44,2.13,0,1.36,1.64,0,0.97,0.41,0.17,1.24 German_Hamburg_GSM1031513,44.91,27.55,11.34,6.12,5.62,0,2.94,0,0,0.71,0.45,0.37,0 German_Hamburg_GSM1031514,30.36,50.87,10.47,2.16,2.26,0,0.8,0,0.26,0.93,0,1.31,0.57 German_Hamburg_GSM1031515,43.7,29.39,16.04,4.62,3.04,0.53,0,0.53,0.38,0,0.34,0.25,1.17 German_Hamburg_GSM1031516,36.16,34.62,9.66,8.15,3.94,2.96,1.42,0.28,0.66,0.04,1.11,0,0.99 German_Hamburg_GSM1031517,40.21,31.67,13.54,2.83,8.05,1.49,0.31,0.2,0,1,0,0.7,0 German_Hamburg_GSM1031519,34.04,30.32,15.14,6.86,10.06,0,0.58,0,2.94,0.06,0,0,0 German_Hamburg_GSM1031521,42.33,27.64,15.65,8.27,3.75,0,0.52,0.04,0.37,0.12,0.66,0,0.66 German_Hamburg_GSM1031523,33.68,36.01,13.47,7.05,7.62,0,0.23,0,1.66,0,0.06,0,0.22 German_Hamburg_GSM1031524,47.2,31.45,6.44,6.18,1.58,2.62,1.57,0.44,0,0.6,1.33,0,0.59 German_Hamburg_GSM1031525,44.41,25.62,13.76,5.07,5.53,0.39,1.17,0.17,1.72,0,0,1.29,0.89 German_Hamburg_GSM1031526,50.16,24.06,10.37,6.7,2.88,2.84,0,1.55,0,0,0.32,0,1.13 German_Hamburg_GSM1031527,35.67,38.38,11.54,5.93,6.19,0,0.29,0,1.05,0,0,0,0.95 German_Hamburg_GSM1031529,47.18,25.89,11.63,4.53,4.41,1.78,1.02,0.99,0.16,1,0,0.06,1.35 German_Hamburg_GSM1031548,45.7,23.35,13.99,10.18,1.31,0.94,3.08,0,1.05,0.38,0,0,0

Erlangen patients

Code:

German_Erlangen_GSM1658598,39.85,24,13.69,13.83,5.96,0,2.67,0,0,0,0,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658599,39.59,23.84,17.64,5.35,10.62,0,0,0,0.42,0.77,0,0.95,0.82 German_Erlangen_GSM1658600,42.42,26,13.16,7.76,6.34,0.88,1.61,1.27,0,0.52,0,0.02,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658601,37.52,39.78,10.91,5.87,2.42,0.23,0.61,0,0,0.74,0.01,1.6,0.31 German_Erlangen_GSM1658602,36.7,26.59,13.74,5.55,11.18,3.8,1.61,0,0,0,0.82,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658603,40.74,24.05,15.73,5.9,10.57,0,0,1.52,0,0,0.97,0,0.53 German_Erlangen_GSM1658604,39.59,29.99,13.31,9.88,2.16,0.49,1.35,0,0,2.07,0.3,0,0.85 German_Erlangen_GSM1658605,37.34,32.65,12.66,7.37,5.58,1.77,0.89,0,0,0.82,0,0,0.93 German_Erlangen_GSM1658606,31.8,34.92,13.88,8.96,6.46,0,0.37,0,0,1.54,0.58,0.98,0.51 German_Erlangen_GSM1658607,41.26,27.89,14.97,6.25,7.15,0.18,0.96,0,1.19,0.15,0,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658609,40.66,29.47,10.41,7.06,8.78,0,1.89,0,0,0.26,0.66,0.82,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658610,44.78,22.32,17.8,6.05,5.38,1.1,1.07,0,0.98,0,0,0,0.5 German_Erlangen_GSM1658611,42.94,31.79,11.3,3.39,9.27,0,0,0,0,0.46,0.52,0.22,0.1 German_Erlangen_GSM1658612,36.71,31.92,14.35,4.08,8.82,0,1.97,0,0,0.67,0.54,0.29,0.64 German_Erlangen_GSM1658613,36.86,29.23,14.19,6.52,8.34,1.35,0.4,0,0,1.59,0.68,0,0.84 German_Erlangen_GSM1658614,36.13,29.6,21.53,6.18,4.32,0.71,0.34,0,0,0.36,0,0.83,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658615,41.52,25.36,13.73,6.66,9.68,1.04,0,0,0,2.02,0,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658616,34.27,29.08,16.7,8.4,8.45,0.35,1.3,0,0.95,0,0.09,0.42,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658617,42.77,23.52,13.5,6.35,7.8,2.89,0.02,0.46,0.27,0.48,0.3,0,1.64 German_Erlangen_GSM1658618,38.93,29.05,14.99,3.61,9.27,0.75,1.68,0.54,0.89,0.26,0.05,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658619,37.14,25.23,13.69,8.7,10.02,1.78,0.15,0.74,0.12,1.47,0,0,0.95 German_Erlangen_GSM1658620,37.61,30.75,12.78,6.3,8.62,1.83,0.79,0,0,0.34,0.86,0.12,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658621,34.66,32.16,16.64,3.83,10.73,0,0,0,0.1,0.76,0,0.28,0.84 German_Erlangen_GSM1658622,41.7,22.58,15.79,3.58,12.71,0,2.52,0,0.96,0,0,0.17,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658623,43.49,26.94,11.09,6.61,5.67,2.43,0,0,0.62,2.24,0,0.91,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658625,40.78,31.14,13.05,0.65,8.57,2.17,0.98,0,1.22,0.66,0.79,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658626,42.34,24.68,17.14,8.41,4.88,1.18,0,0.23,0,0.54,0.46,0,0.14 German_Erlangen_GSM1658627,38.49,26.49,17.94,7.89,6.02,0,2.01,0,0,1,0,0.15,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658628,42.18,29.67,14,7.91,3.44,0,1.25,0,0.44,0,0,0,1.11 German_Erlangen_GSM1658630,35.84,28.1,17.12,4.82,11.88,0,0.1,0.14,0,1.39,0.08,0,0.53 German_Erlangen_GSM1658631,48.21,19.07,20.38,4.12,5.3,0,0,1.1,0,0.56,0.34,0.18,0.76 German_Erlangen_GSM1658632,48.21,19.07,20.38,4.12,5.3,0,0,1.1,0,0.56,0.34,0.18,0.76 German_Erlangen_GSM1658633,39.89,26.12,16.38,5.7,7.99,0,1.9,0.22,0,0.05,0.58,1.17,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658634,31.24,33.08,15.92,8.79,7.55,0,0.89,0,0,2.18,0.36,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658635,40.52,28.08,13.02,4.25,11.01,0,1.01,0,1.36,0.75,0,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658636,40.28,30.26,12.83,7.16,3.7,1.54,2.36,0,1.25,0.13,0.11,0,0.37 German_Erlangen_GSM1658637,38.19,24.78,13.28,9.1,12.19,0.34,0.46,0.41,0,0.89,0,0,0.36 German_Erlangen_GSM1658638,32.34,29.41,13.3,7.67,12.56,1.62,1.09,0,0.24,1.23,0.52,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658639,41.09,22.16,13.92,10.63,5.95,1.81,2.75,1.15,0,0.15,0,0,0.39 German_Erlangen_GSM1658640,39.14,28.18,15.11,5.04,10.65,0,0,0,0.51,0.78,0.59,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658641,36.27,27.78,17.02,4.98,9.92,1.37,0.17,0,0,0,1.56,0.76,0.17 German_Erlangen_GSM1658642,38.96,24.35,15.64,10.3,6.51,0.3,0,0.23,0.98,1.74,0.53,0,0.47 German_Erlangen_GSM1658643,34.65,34.33,13.66,5.38,7.88,0.83,0,0,0,1.68,1.03,0,0.56 German_Erlangen_GSM1658644,35.48,33.72,12.92,6.62,9.87,0,0.58,0,0.67,0,0,0.14,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658645,36.89,33.28,14.11,3.86,6.27,0.14,1.27,1.22,0,1.37,0.23,1.37,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658646,38.76,31.6,11.59,2.42,9.32,3.06,0.86,0,0.91,0.31,0.19,0.97,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658647,31.43,44.05,9.15,6.55,5.98,0,0.85,0,0.55,1.03,0.05,0,0.37 German_Erlangen_GSM1658648,37.75,32.28,12.41,5.27,8.34,0,0,1.52,0.37,1.07,0,0,1 German_Erlangen_GSM1658649,38.76,23.53,18.49,4.08,10.99,1.45,1.59,0,0,0,0.08,0.42,0.61 German_Erlangen_GSM1658650,39.57,24.95,14.25,11.75,3.73,1.67,2.65,0,0.9,0,0,0,0.52 German_Erlangen_GSM1658651,33.46,37.54,13.19,3.73,6.4,2.4,1.14,0.5,0.01,0.62,0.2,0.83,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658652,38.3,27.95,15.11,8.97,5.92,1.21,0.49,0,0.6,0.75,0,0.06,0.64 German_Erlangen_GSM1658653,36.53,24.98,17.75,6.72,10.84,0.49,0.54,0,0.08,1.3,0.78,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658654,43.37,26.5,12.22,4,11,0,0,2.35,0,0.44,0.11,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658655,41.37,24.11,13.8,6.62,9.77,1.2,0,0,0,1.37,1.21,0.54,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658656,38.16,33.3,14.44,5.34,6.11,0,0.81,0,0,0.65,0.65,0,0.54 German_Erlangen_GSM1658657,35.85,32.08,14.06,8.11,5.5,1.2,0,1.22,0,0,0,1.99,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658658,43.43,25.78,11.99,7.98,7.05,0,1.24,0,0.96,0,0,1.06,0.52 German_Erlangen_GSM1658659,39.88,24.69,19.13,2.36,8.66,1.38,2.32,0,0.19,0.45,0.94,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658660,42.51,23.77,14.24,6.62,9.9,0.39,1.03,0.53,0,0.85,0,0.16,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658661,35.33,30.61,11.93,7.77,10.94,0,0,0,0.83,1.35,1.07,0,0.16 German_Erlangen_GSM1658662,40.66,22.8,18.98,7.86,5.65,1.29,0,0,0.67,1.27,0.82,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658663,39.23,24.2,15.63,7.28,8.75,2.53,1.48,0,0.89,0,0,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658664,35.02,31.69,13.95,5.89,8.28,2.87,0.28,0,1.79,0.2,0,0.04,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658665,41.49,31.57,13.02,4.08,6.63,0.25,0.14,0.9,0,0.51,1.42,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658666,39.77,26.46,15.19,4.64,10.93,2.57,0,0,0,0.16,0.29,0,0 German_Erlangen_GSM1658667,37.73,32.59,13.74,1.33,9.43,0,1.62,0,1.24,0.99,0.62,0.52,0.19

Averages

Code:

German_Hamburg_patient,41.52411765,30.70058824,12.31411765,6.44,4.481764706,0.956470588,0.991764706,0.371176471,0.621764706,0.441176471,0.326470588,0.258235294,0.574117647 German_Erlangen_patient,39.45604844,28.84824221,14.1319308,6.314470588,7.229785467,0.871252595,0.869550173,0.282719723,0.404138408,0.640484429,0.33184083,0.268214533,0.352519031

https://i.imgur.com/tta038l.png
01-30-2022, 04:59 PM
Leto

Quote:

Mein Name ist Gerhard Drogi (Jahrgang 1952). Seit Anfang Juni 2005 beschäftige ich mich mit der Vergangenheit unserer Familien - als Hobby, sofern dies meine Zeit als Verkaufsleiter eines großen niederländischen Unternehmens für Haushaltswaren aus Kunststoff zuläßt.

Ich bin also blutiger Anfänger in Sachen Genealogie und für jeden Hinweis dankbar. Die bisherigen 'Forschungsergebnisse' beruhen im Wesentlichen auf Befragungen unserer Verwandschaft und den vorliegenden Daten unser leider bereits verstorbenen Eltern und Großeltern. Die Daten der Lautner Linie aus Engelsberg / Sudetenland habe ich überwiegend der Häuserchronik des Ortes entnommen, die in jahrerlanger Kleinarbeit von Rudolf Quaiser erstellt wurde. Hierfür vielen Dank.

Wesentliche Familiennamen und Orte über die ich gerne mehr wissen möchte:

Namen: Baranowski, Constabel, Drogi, Geissler, Kunkel, Lautner, Schindler, Scholze Orte: Alteichen bzw. Golkowitz (Golkowice), Engelsberg, Kratzau, Neundorf

https://privat.genealogy.net/drogi.g/Vorstellung.htm

North_Atlantic 38.66 Pct
Baltic 31.07 Pct
West_Med 16.01 Pct
West_Asian 6.08 Pct
East_Med 4.45 Pct
Red_Sea 1.42 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.12 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.78 Pct
Oceanian 0.41 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

T-Y6671 (very rare haplogroup)
H1ap1

Distance to: Gerhard
4.03538102 German_North_Bohemia
4.17716411 German_Saxony
5.15659772 German_County_Glatz
5.69710453 German
5.77557789 German_Thuringia_East
6.14310996 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
6.32550393 German_Thuringia_Central
6.42772899 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
6.43536324 Austrian_Styria
6.45517622 German_North_Moravia
6.47349983 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
6.53388093 Austrian
6.64730020 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
6.89755029 German_West_Bohemia
7.22114084 German_Hither_Pomerania
7.41122797 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
7.88832523 Austrian_Lower_Austria
8.11592262 German_Lower_Silesia
8.36167447 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
9.13695792 Slovene

Target: Gerhard
Distance: 1.5536% / 1.55360379 | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.0 German_County_Glatz
22.6 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
17.6 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
12.7 Basque_France
7.5 Austrian_Lower_Austria
5.6 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
2.0 German_Saxony

Target: Gerhard
Distance: 2.8282% / 2.82822680 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.2 German_County_Glatz
31.0 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
20.1 German_North_Bohemia
5.7 Basque_France
01-30-2022, 05:23 PM
Leto

No information on this account, not even their names (only the initials) but they seem to be Southwestern Germans having no Eastern European influence whatsoever

North_Atlantic 46.75 Pct
Baltic 21.21 Pct
West_Med 16.02 Pct
West_Asian 4.39 Pct
East_Med 7.81 Pct
Red_Sea 1.71 Pct
South_Asian 0.83 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.66 Pct
Oceanian 0.62 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Father
North_Atlantic 46.5 Pct
Baltic 20.16 Pct
West_Med 16.9 Pct
West_Asian 5.62 Pct
East_Med 7.49 Pct
Red_Sea 1.02 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.67 Pct
Oceanian 0.46 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.17 Pct

Mother
North_Atlantic 46.76 Pct
Baltic 20.76 Pct
West_Med 16.22 Pct
West_Asian 2.87 Pct
East_Med 9.92 Pct
Red_Sea 0.73 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.43 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.15 Pct
Oceanian 0.15 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Husband
North_Atlantic 41.01 Pct
Baltic 22.54 Pct
West_Med 16.91 Pct
West_Asian 9.67 Pct
East_Med 8.19 Pct
Red_Sea 0.32 Pct
South_Asian 0.08 Pct
East_Asian 0.21 Pct
Siberian 0.3 Pct
Amerindian 0.65 Pct
Oceanian 0.11 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
01-30-2022, 05:32 PM
Leto

From around Cologne / Bonn (NRW), he has half a dozen relatives on his account

North_Atlantic 42.2 Pct
Baltic 24.91 Pct
West_Med 15.22 Pct
West_Asian 7.1 Pct
East_Med 7.43 Pct
Red_Sea 0.13 Pct
South_Asian 0.63 Pct
East_Asian 0.37 Pct
Siberian 1.08 Pct
Amerindian 0.32 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.63 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Distance to: DA
2.04274325 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
3.62135334 German_North_Rhine
3.76548802 German_North_Moravia
3.97232929 German
4.16757723 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
4.18418451 German_Bavaria_Proper
4.24429028 French_Alsace
4.37424279 German_Baden-Württemberg
4.39508817 Flemish
4.55285625 Belgian
4.60202130 German_South_Hesse
4.98912818 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
5.05628322 Dutch_South
5.35153249 French_Northeast
5.45527268 Swiss_German
5.48206166 German_West_Bohemia
5.49284990 French_Normandy
5.53524164 German_North_Hesse
5.87896037 Austrian_Lower_Austria
5.89298736 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine

Target: DA
Distance: 1.4394% / 1.43936135 | ADC: 0.5x RC
70.0 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
19.5 Dutch_South
10.5 German
02-02-2022, 03:49 PM
Ajeje Brazorf

I tried to do an ancient Germanic proxy using samples from Germany and Szolad/Collegno. Some may have mixed ancestry though.

Samples used

Code:

Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:BIM33.SG,37.65,32.21,15.85,10.25,0,1.06,0.67,0,0.23,0,0.04,0,2.05 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR355c.SG,53.81,21.94,11.01,1.12,7.44,0,2.99,0,0,1.35,0.34,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR220c.SG,38.43,26.03,19.36,8.86,2,0.7,0,0,2.34,0,0,2.27,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine:NIEcap3a,59.57,23.99,8.81,3.09,0,3.35,0,0,0,0.61,0.59,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Langobardian:NIEcap6,46.37,17.37,10.48,17.08,3.23,2.58,1.44,0.07,0,0,1.37,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine:NIEcap12c,47.23,33.64,11.78,3.59,0,0,0,0,0,0.78,2.99,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:AED106.SG,46.79,23.39,8.49,15.35,0,0,0,0,1.27,1.54,2.3,0,0.87 Germany_EarlyMedieval_o3.SG:AED249.SG,57.4,27.17,9.14,4.43,0,0,0.61,1.25,0,0,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval_o3.SG:AED1135b.SG,21.65,39.86,12.4,15.64,0,9.1,0.46,0,0,0,0.9,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:Alh1.SG,49.59,30.88,12.14,3,0,0.62,1.01,0.36,0,0.91,1.27,0.23,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:Alh3a.SG,39.16,33.05,4.97,11.1,7.9,0,0,2.58,1.23,0,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:Alh10.SG,50.47,28.86,8.83,1.45,2.02,5.99,0,1.51,0,0.88,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:NW255a.SG,48.03,26.92,10,7.9,0,6.72,0,0,0,0.43,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR316b.SG,44.67,35.47,9.01,0,0,0,9.65,0,1.21,0,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR480.SG,52.46,17.64,16.36,3.91,0,4.24,5.39,0,0,0,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR486.SG,36,33.66,7.48,9.66,3.22,1.44,6.84,0,0,0.08,0,0,1.62 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ2.SG,53.51,34.74,1.13,6.25,0.85,0,0.01,0,0.52,0,0.88,2.1,0 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ3.SG,41.29,23.99,17.96,1.24,11.03,0,2.4,0,0,1.56,0.53,0,0 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ4.SG,47.19,29.56,9.12,6.92,1.9,1.66,0.98,0.12,1.41,0,0.85,0.29,0 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ5.SG,41.19,26.06,11.63,4.28,11.27,2.18,0,0,0.16,2.65,0.58,0,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ7,48.42,28.5,11.02,3.98,1.66,1.8,0,0,1.3,1.66,1.09,0.57,0 Hungary_Langobard_sister.SZ14_sister.SZ6:SZ8,47.08,21.46,13.12,1.93,9.36,0,4.36,0,0,0.29,0.61,1.78,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ9,49.77,31.73,11.18,2.73,0,0.76,3.32,0,0,0,0.51,0,0 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ11.SG,47.5,24.84,13.96,11.88,0,0,0,1.32,0.15,0.35,0,0,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ12,47.69,28.42,8.15,10.05,0,0,2.29,0.07,0,0.57,2.54,0,0.22 Hungary_Langobard_son.SZ24_father.SZ7_brother.SZ22:SZ13,51.49,25.93,7.02,6.07,0,3.37,2.83,0,0,2.03,1.15,0,0.11 Hungary_Langobard:SZ14,38.5,24.78,18.99,13.02,0,0.31,0,0,0,0,2.15,0,2.26 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ15.SG,54.32,23.5,8.97,7.79,0,1.3,0.18,3.34,0.27,0.33,0,0,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ16,43.6,31.17,9.64,11.16,0,0,1.59,0,0.86,0,1.31,0,0.67 Hungary_Langobard_o2:SZ18,34.54,21.21,17.42,12.31,9.24,0.11,0,0,0.23,2.64,0.54,0,1.76 Hungary_Langobard_son.SZ24_brother.SZ22:SZ22,47.06,26.02,8.49,7.52,5.13,0,3.62,0,0,0,2.14,0,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ23,38.31,18.96,19.38,13.29,6.26,1.24,0,0,0.62,0.72,0.59,0.31,0.32 Hungary_Langobard:SZ24,46.15,22.23,13.17,0,13.69,0,2.75,0.34,0,1.33,0,0,0.34 Hungary_Langobard:SZ30,54.11,20.94,9.51,7.66,0,0,1.1,0,2.78,1.49,1.92,0,0.49 Hungary_Langobard:SZ38,48.3,20.72,9.2,7.07,11.96,0,0,0,0,0.65,0.73,1.36,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ42,39.1,26.07,8.9,10.14,11.97,1.04,0,0,0,1.14,1.64,0,0 Hungary_Langobard_o2.SG:SZ45.SG,33.93,21.99,17.54,10.07,8.91,3.18,0.92,1.33,0.57,0,0,0,1.58 Hungary_Langobard:SZ25,39.05,29.52,4.04,11.97,8.7,2.06,0,1.39,0,0,0.93,2.35,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL47,34.92,18.32,23.77,4.64,11.66,3.17,0,0,2.67,0,0.08,0.36,0.41 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL63,34.83,21.34,15.99,12.93,13.83,0,0,0.85,0,0,0.24,0,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_brother.CL84_son.CL87:CL83,50.1,26.14,13.02,3.44,2.96,1.46,0,0.78,0,1.19,0,0.91,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL84,48.13,29.98,9.67,0.35,8.92,0.99,0,0,0.69,0.72,0,0.55,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_mother.CL83_mother.CL84_daughter.CL102:CL87,47.66,22.35,15.19,3.97,7.54,2.35,0,0.43,0,0.05,0,0,0.45 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_son.CL93:CL92,41.65,34.01,9.7,8.96,2.82,0,0,0.31,1.39,0,1.16,0,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL93,47.63,26.5,11.94,8.46,1.27,1.51,0,0.08,0.76,0,1.4,0,0.45 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL102,42.07,21.56,17.2,6.77,10.02,0.5,0.64,0,1.11,0.12,0,0,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_brother.CL146_son.CL151:CL145,51.18,29.18,6,6.17,0.75,0,5.33,0,0,0,0.41,0.97,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL146,53.52,25.08,9.05,7.91,1.86,0,0,0,0,0.8,0.17,0,1.59 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_mother.CL145_mother.CL146:CL151,49.44,28.07,8.45,7.9,0,1.79,1.93,0,0,1.21,1.2,0,0

Average

Code:

Germanic_proxy,45.35734694,26.46836735,11.54346939,7.250204082,4.06877551,1.35877551,1.292040816,0.329183673,0.444285714,0.573061224,0.717346939,0.286734694,0.31

Distances

Code:

Distance to: Germanic_proxy 3.73452665 German_Lower_Saxony_South 3.78577487 German_Westphalia 4.58127573 Dutch 4.93969279 German 5.08480003 Dutch_Central 5.20903900 German_Lower_Saxony_North 5.26793279 Dutch_South 5.49881968 English_Southeast 5.62530757 Dutch_North 5.81698810 English_Midlands 5.87018752 German_Schleswig-Holstein 5.98786269 English 6.00948260 German_North_Moravia 6.16256884 Flemish 6.28598178 English_North 6.38528103 German_Brandenburg_Northwest 6.49087955 German_Hither_Pomerania 6.63605793 Icelandic 6.65504010 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine 6.66059318 Danish 6.81513783 English_Southwest 6.90955472 Belgian 6.94483581 Welsh 7.01391005 Swedish 7.06187938 Swedish_Götaland 7.10767389 Orcadian 7.11136698 Scottish 7.11385179 Scottish_Northeast 7.14092814 Scottish_East 7.14880121 Norwegian 7.17723467 Scottish_G?idhealtachd 7.17830302 Norwegian_Southcentral 7.37568534 Scottish_North-Highlands 7.45116629 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia 7.52151889 Swedish_West-Svealand 7.52465821 Scottish_Southwest 7.60005381 German_Hamburg 7.63080181 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East 7.63248398 German_Mecklenburg_West 7.74268183 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South 7.74301104 Irish_Leinster 7.91480617 German_North_Rhine 8.21807748 French_Normandy 8.28676912 French_Brittany 8.47878177 Irish 8.50663592 Irish_Connacht 8.62602514 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz 8.64461136 German_Saxony 8.92984000 Irish_Munster 9.06194327 German_North_Hesse 9.11548299 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria 9.38381105 Irish_Ulster 9.47328691 Swedish_East-Svealand 9.57246303 French_Northeast 9.58489360 German_Bavaria_Proper 9.71882213 German_South_Hesse 9.78562219 German_Baden-Württemberg 9.80336914 French_Alsace 9.88153687 German_North_Bohemia

PCA

https://i.imgur.com/rzB6eBQ.png
02-02-2022, 04:23 PM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf

I tried to do an ancient Germanic proxy using samples from Germany and Szolad/Collegno. Some may have mixed ancestry though.

Samples used

Code:

Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:BIM33.SG,37.65,32.21,15.85,10.25,0,1.06,0.67,0,0.23,0,0.04,0,2.05 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR355c.SG,53.81,21.94,11.01,1.12,7.44,0,2.99,0,0,1.35,0.34,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR220c.SG,38.43,26.03,19.36,8.86,2,0.7,0,0,2.34,0,0,2.27,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine:NIEcap3a,59.57,23.99,8.81,3.09,0,3.35,0,0,0,0.61,0.59,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Langobardian:NIEcap6,46.37,17.37,10.48,17.08,3.23,2.58,1.44,0.07,0,0,1.37,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval_Alemanic_Byzantine:NIEcap12c,47.23,33.64,11.78,3.59,0,0,0,0,0,0.78,2.99,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:AED106.SG,46.79,23.39,8.49,15.35,0,0,0,0,1.27,1.54,2.3,0,0.87 Germany_EarlyMedieval_o3.SG:AED249.SG,57.4,27.17,9.14,4.43,0,0,0.61,1.25,0,0,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval_o3.SG:AED1135b.SG,21.65,39.86,12.4,15.64,0,9.1,0.46,0,0,0,0.9,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:Alh1.SG,49.59,30.88,12.14,3,0,0.62,1.01,0.36,0,0.91,1.27,0.23,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:Alh3a.SG,39.16,33.05,4.97,11.1,7.9,0,0,2.58,1.23,0,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:Alh10.SG,50.47,28.86,8.83,1.45,2.02,5.99,0,1.51,0,0.88,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:NW255a.SG,48.03,26.92,10,7.9,0,6.72,0,0,0,0.43,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR316b.SG,44.67,35.47,9.01,0,0,0,9.65,0,1.21,0,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR480.SG,52.46,17.64,16.36,3.91,0,4.24,5.39,0,0,0,0,0,0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG:STR486.SG,36,33.66,7.48,9.66,3.22,1.44,6.84,0,0,0.08,0,0,1.62 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ2.SG,53.51,34.74,1.13,6.25,0.85,0,0.01,0,0.52,0,0.88,2.1,0 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ3.SG,41.29,23.99,17.96,1.24,11.03,0,2.4,0,0,1.56,0.53,0,0 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ4.SG,47.19,29.56,9.12,6.92,1.9,1.66,0.98,0.12,1.41,0,0.85,0.29,0 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ5.SG,41.19,26.06,11.63,4.28,11.27,2.18,0,0,0.16,2.65,0.58,0,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ7,48.42,28.5,11.02,3.98,1.66,1.8,0,0,1.3,1.66,1.09,0.57,0 Hungary_Langobard_sister.SZ14_sister.SZ6:SZ8,47.08,21.46,13.12,1.93,9.36,0,4.36,0,0,0.29,0.61,1.78,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ9,49.77,31.73,11.18,2.73,0,0.76,3.32,0,0,0,0.51,0,0 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ11.SG,47.5,24.84,13.96,11.88,0,0,0,1.32,0.15,0.35,0,0,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ12,47.69,28.42,8.15,10.05,0,0,2.29,0.07,0,0.57,2.54,0,0.22 Hungary_Langobard_son.SZ24_father.SZ7_brother.SZ22:SZ13,51.49,25.93,7.02,6.07,0,3.37,2.83,0,0,2.03,1.15,0,0.11 Hungary_Langobard:SZ14,38.5,24.78,18.99,13.02,0,0.31,0,0,0,0,2.15,0,2.26 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ15.SG,54.32,23.5,8.97,7.79,0,1.3,0.18,3.34,0.27,0.33,0,0,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ16,43.6,31.17,9.64,11.16,0,0,1.59,0,0.86,0,1.31,0,0.67 Hungary_Langobard_o2:SZ18,34.54,21.21,17.42,12.31,9.24,0.11,0,0,0.23,2.64,0.54,0,1.76 Hungary_Langobard_son.SZ24_brother.SZ22:SZ22,47.06,26.02,8.49,7.52,5.13,0,3.62,0,0,0,2.14,0,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ23,38.31,18.96,19.38,13.29,6.26,1.24,0,0,0.62,0.72,0.59,0.31,0.32 Hungary_Langobard:SZ24,46.15,22.23,13.17,0,13.69,0,2.75,0.34,0,1.33,0,0,0.34 Hungary_Langobard:SZ30,54.11,20.94,9.51,7.66,0,0,1.1,0,2.78,1.49,1.92,0,0.49 Hungary_Langobard:SZ38,48.3,20.72,9.2,7.07,11.96,0,0,0,0,0.65,0.73,1.36,0 Hungary_Langobard:SZ42,39.1,26.07,8.9,10.14,11.97,1.04,0,0,0,1.14,1.64,0,0 Hungary_Langobard_o2.SG:SZ45.SG,33.93,21.99,17.54,10.07,8.91,3.18,0.92,1.33,0.57,0,0,0,1.58 Hungary_Langobard:SZ25,39.05,29.52,4.04,11.97,8.7,2.06,0,1.39,0,0,0.93,2.35,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL47,34.92,18.32,23.77,4.64,11.66,3.17,0,0,2.67,0,0.08,0.36,0.41 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL63,34.83,21.34,15.99,12.93,13.83,0,0,0.85,0,0,0.24,0,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_brother.CL84_son.CL87:CL83,50.1,26.14,13.02,3.44,2.96,1.46,0,0.78,0,1.19,0,0.91,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL84,48.13,29.98,9.67,0.35,8.92,0.99,0,0,0.69,0.72,0,0.55,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_mother.CL83_mother.CL84_daughter.CL102:CL87,47.66,22.35,15.19,3.97,7.54,2.35,0,0.43,0,0.05,0,0,0.45 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_son.CL93:CL92,41.65,34.01,9.7,8.96,2.82,0,0,0.31,1.39,0,1.16,0,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL93,47.63,26.5,11.94,8.46,1.27,1.51,0,0.08,0.76,0,1.4,0,0.45 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL102,42.07,21.56,17.2,6.77,10.02,0.5,0.64,0,1.11,0.12,0,0,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_brother.CL146_son.CL151:CL145,51.18,29.18,6,6.17,0.75,0,5.33,0,0,0,0.41,0.97,0 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL146,53.52,25.08,9.05,7.91,1.86,0,0,0,0,0.8,0.17,0,1.59 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1_mother.CL145_mother.CL146:CL151,49.44,28.07,8.45,7.9,0,1.79,1.93,0,0,1.21,1.2,0,0

Average

Code:

Germanic_proxy,45.35734694,26.46836735,11.54346939,7.250204082,4.06877551,1.35877551,1.292040816,0.329183673,0.444285714,0.573061224,0.717346939,0.286734694,0.31

Distances

Code:

Distance to: Germanic_proxy 3.73452665 German_Lower_Saxony_South 3.78577487 German_Westphalia 4.58127573 Dutch 4.93969279 German 5.08480003 Dutch_Central 5.20903900 German_Lower_Saxony_North 5.26793279 Dutch_South 5.49881968 English_Southeast 5.62530757 Dutch_North 5.81698810 English_Midlands 5.87018752 German_Schleswig-Holstein 5.98786269 English 6.00948260 German_North_Moravia 6.16256884 Flemish 6.28598178 English_North 6.38528103 German_Brandenburg_Northwest 6.49087955 German_Hither_Pomerania 6.63605793 Icelandic 6.65504010 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine 6.66059318 Danish 6.81513783 English_Southwest 6.90955472 Belgian 6.94483581 Welsh 7.01391005 Swedish 7.06187938 Swedish_Götaland 7.10767389 Orcadian 7.11136698 Scottish 7.11385179 Scottish_Northeast 7.14092814 Scottish_East 7.14880121 Norwegian 7.17723467 Scottish_G?idhealtachd 7.17830302 Norwegian_Southcentral 7.37568534 Scottish_North-Highlands 7.45116629 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia 7.52151889 Swedish_West-Svealand 7.52465821 Scottish_Southwest 7.60005381 German_Hamburg 7.63080181 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East 7.63248398 German_Mecklenburg_West 7.74268183 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South 7.74301104 Irish_Leinster 7.91480617 German_North_Rhine 8.21807748 French_Normandy 8.28676912 French_Brittany 8.47878177 Irish 8.50663592 Irish_Connacht 8.62602514 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz 8.64461136 German_Saxony 8.92984000 Irish_Munster 9.06194327 German_North_Hesse 9.11548299 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria 9.38381105 Irish_Ulster 9.47328691 Swedish_East-Svealand 9.57246303 French_Northeast 9.58489360 German_Bavaria_Proper 9.71882213 German_South_Hesse 9.78562219 German_Baden-Württemberg 9.80336914 French_Alsace 9.88153687 German_North_Bohemia

PCA

https://i.imgur.com/rzB6eBQ.png

Nice. Maybe Poprad Germanic Prince could be added but one sample can't change the average in any bigger way.

Also surprised that Dutch North is so low in distances. Not to mention Scandos. Very interesting.
02-02-2022, 05:14 PM
Ajeje Brazorf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas

Nice. Maybe Poprad Germanic Prince could be added but one sample can't change the average in any bigger way.

Also surprised that Dutch North is so low in distances. Not to mention Scandos. Very interesting.

I remade the average adding Poprad and excluding samples with less than 70% Germanic_Celtic ancestry in this table shared by Riverman on Anthrogenica.

Spoiler!

https://i.ibb.co/BK0BDrF/Germanics.jpg

Code:

Germanic_NEW,47.21225,27.04175,10.47575,6.98725,3.11875,1.076,1.32075,0.35375,0.4465,0.54,0.81475,0.37625,0.23475

Distances

Code:

Distance to: Germanic_NEW 2.50853192 German_Westphalia 2.55451705 German_Lower_Saxony_South 2.98811184 German_Lower_Saxony_North 3.82543231 Dutch 3.85260008 Dutch_North 3.93023948 Dutch_Central 4.32769366 German_Schleswig-Holstein 4.46948234 Icelandic 4.49256635 Danish 4.89791919 Swedish_Götaland 4.90479636 Norwegian 4.94772345 Norwegian_Southcentral 5.43662003 Swedish 5.55120954 English_North 5.56085177 Swedish_West-Svealand 5.57446073 English_Southeast 5.60332467 English_Midlands 5.67229780 German_Hamburg 5.69887510 Scottish_G?idhealtachd 5.70376169 English 5.86918072 Orcadian 6.02492260 Scottish_Northeast 6.07982338 Scottish 6.17798166 Scottish_East 6.28108091 Welsh 6.36892592 Scottish_Southwest 6.45677453 Scottish_North-Highlands 6.53471594 English_Southwest 6.62582013 Dutch_South 6.70757910 German_Hither_Pomerania 6.75791184 Irish_Leinster 7.01822929 German 7.03027790 German_Mecklenburg_West 7.08819669 Irish_Connacht 7.09786217 German_Brandenburg_Northwest 7.23798676 Irish 7.55760560 Irish_Munster 7.71304268 Flemish 8.01980096 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine 8.08260431 Irish_Ulster 8.25594225 German_North_Moravia 8.26829108 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East 8.27206579 Swedish_East-Svealand 8.54733832 Belgian 8.80568324 French_Brittany 8.92013214 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South 9.49376281 German_Frisian 9.72418621 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia 9.72503765 French_Normandy 9.92102678 German_North_Rhine

PCA

https://i.imgur.com/ubsvch7.png
02-02-2022, 06:52 PM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf

I remade the average adding Poprad and excluding samples with less than 70% Germanic_Celtic ancestry in this table shared by Riverman on Anthrogenica.

Spoiler!

https://i.ibb.co/BK0BDrF/Germanics.jpg

Code:

Germanic_NEW,47.21225,27.04175,10.47575,6.98725,3.11875,1.076,1.32075,0.35375,0.4465,0.54,0.81475,0.37625,0.23475

Distances

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Distance to: Germanic_NEW 2.50853192 German_Westphalia 2.55451705 German_Lower_Saxony_South 2.98811184 German_Lower_Saxony_North 3.82543231 Dutch 3.85260008 Dutch_North 3.93023948 Dutch_Central 4.32769366 German_Schleswig-Holstein 4.46948234 Icelandic 4.49256635 Danish 4.89791919 Swedish_Götaland 4.90479636 Norwegian 4.94772345 Norwegian_Southcentral 5.43662003 Swedish 5.55120954 English_North 5.56085177 Swedish_West-Svealand 5.57446073 English_Southeast 5.60332467 English_Midlands 5.67229780 German_Hamburg 5.69887510 Scottish_G?idhealtachd 5.70376169 English 5.86918072 Orcadian 6.02492260 Scottish_Northeast 6.07982338 Scottish 6.17798166 Scottish_East 6.28108091 Welsh 6.36892592 Scottish_Southwest 6.45677453 Scottish_North-Highlands 6.53471594 English_Southwest 6.62582013 Dutch_South 6.70757910 German_Hither_Pomerania 6.75791184 Irish_Leinster 7.01822929 German 7.03027790 German_Mecklenburg_West 7.08819669 Irish_Connacht 7.09786217 German_Brandenburg_Northwest 7.23798676 Irish 7.55760560 Irish_Munster 7.71304268 Flemish 8.01980096 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine 8.08260431 Irish_Ulster 8.25594225 German_North_Moravia 8.26829108 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East 8.27206579 Swedish_East-Svealand 8.54733832 Belgian 8.80568324 French_Brittany 8.92013214 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South 9.49376281 German_Frisian 9.72418621 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia 9.72503765 French_Normandy 9.92102678 German_North_Rhine

PCA

https://i.imgur.com/ubsvch7.png

Yes probably more close to original. Good work.
02-03-2022, 03:30 PM
Leto

German Mongoloid?

Since I refuse to participate in the taxonomy bullshit, I'm gonna post this in this thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Hi, do you think Franziska Brandmann from the FDP youth wing is fully German? She looks so Eastern, not even proper Slavic Russian but rather Uralic/Finno-Ugric. I can't find any information on her other than the birthplace which is Münster, NRW.

Spoiler!

https://img.welt.de/img/politik/deut...n-Portrait.jpg
https://www.julis.de/wp-content/uplo...a-1400x750.jpg
https://cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de/imag...7.34_fpy47.jpg
https://rp-online.de/imgs/32/1/1/8/2...113ba3093b.jpg

Would love to see her autosomal. Keep her name in mind, perhaps she would appear on Gedmatch one day in case you also frequently browse through match lists.

The most Mongoloid-looking (potential) ethnic German I've ever seen in my life. Mind-blowing if true.
02-03-2022, 04:08 PM
PaulieVanZant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Since I refuse to participate in the taxonomy bullshit, I'm gonna post this in this thread

The most Mongoloid-looking (potential) ethnic German I've ever seen in my life. Mind-blowing if true.

Well there is also Armin Laschet:

https://i.ibb.co/1TDgrnh/video-thumb-5.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/JHz5pSH/landtagswah...swahl-bild.jpg

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