Thanks guys, for putting me in there. I am not sure I fully understand all of this info but the charts are interesting. Kudos to the ones who have worked hard on those maps/ charts.
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Thanks guys, for putting me in there. I am not sure I fully understand all of this info but the charts are interesting. Kudos to the ones who have worked hard on those maps/ charts.
Who is this Cal Ma person on a plot? Norwegian? Looks more northern than Palla and other Scandos or does it?
It's Clamus mother I think, he is an East Norwegian guy who post on ABF, also I think his mother is on my rf list on 23andMe.
McDonald has me (green spot on map) landing in the Czech Republic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto Prohaska
Me too, but I seem to come out a bit more northwestern on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxman
She has extremely high North Sea..Higher than anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pallantides
Yeah north American.. Weird Central Europeans. :p No mixed New Worlders should be on the edge, I doubt it. Unless they're of one nationality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxman
larali don't think I've seen your K36 yet?
The edge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
I mean the periphery. You have all these European Clusters for example, if your like the Finnish and have North Eastern clusters dominating everything, it'll push you outwards. Or the Georgians who like the Finnish, don't have a variation of numbers, It's all caucasus. The Turks at least share some Italian etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxman
I'm quite interested to know, because the German side of my family is Silesian German minority and they had lived in Silesia as long as there is recollection. It would be quite interesting to know where the German Silesians fit in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Surname is Radke, if that helps. Silesian surname.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazimiera
Turns out an American, with what says German & Prussian ancestry. It was posted by his wife.
Americans should say they're American, & not German etc.. It confuses me. lol
https://www.23andme.com/user/?commun...64a4cacea2dba5
Some old stuff but i think isn't posted here.
Intra-Iberian analysis :
Key: Red = French + Irish (North Atlantic), Green= central and south Italians (Southern European), Blue = Mozabite Berbers (North African), Purple = Jordanians + Palestinians (Middle Eastern), Yellow= French Basques (Basque). See spreadsheet for details.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...bum/iberia.png
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...m/Iberia-1.jpg
Some Norwegian-Romani scores using K12b via gedmatch whom are related to my grandmother:
My grandmother:
Quote:
Population
Western European 42.22%
Siberian -
East African 0.07%
West Central Asian 2.28%
South Asian 1.13%
West African -
Caucasus 4.23%
Finnish 9.54%
Mediterranean 10.28%
Southwest Asian 1.08%
North European 29.16%
East Asian -
Subject one:
Subject two:Quote:
Population
Western European 38.42%
Siberian 0.88%
East African -
West Central Asian 2.83%
South Asian 2.58%
West African 0.79%
Caucasus 2.66%
Finnish 11.51%
Mediterranean 11.06%
Southwest Asian 1.16%
North European 28.10%
East Asian -
Subject three:Quote:
Population
Western European 46.08%
Siberian 0.22%
East African 0.34%
West Central Asian 2.08%
South Asian 0.36%
West African -
Caucasus 5.11%
Finnish 9.09%
Mediterranean 9.82%
Southwest Asian 1.35%
North European 25.53%
East Asian -
And some that these above subject Romani match, but whom my grandmother do not match:Quote:
Population
Western European 33.01%
Siberian 0.88%
East African 1.03%
West Central Asian 4.47%
South Asian 5.88%
West African -
Caucasus 4.61%
Finnish 13.04%
Mediterranean 12.27%
Southwest Asian 0.96%
North European 23.86%
East Asian -
Subject one B:
Subject two B:Quote:
Population
Western European 36.93%
Siberian 1.94%
East African 0.28%
West Central Asian 5.88%
South Asian 1.60%
West African -
Caucasus 5.44%
Finnish 11.52%
Mediterranean 10.83%
Southwest Asian 0.42%
North European 25.16%
East Asian -
Quote:
Population
Western European 36.32%
Siberian 1.47%
East African 0.82%
West Central Asian 3.31%
South Asian 2.63%
West African -
Caucasus 5.58%
Finnish 12.15%
Mediterranean 10.33%
Southwest Asian -
North European 27.40%
East Asian -
^^
Should ask IM, if he has any Norway cousins.
You ain't a proper Roma unless you are related to IM on 23andMe:D
And interestingly, Finnish matches of my grandmother Using K12b:
Finnish 1:
Quote:
Population
Western European 28.64%
Siberian 4.75%
East African -
West Central Asian 1.27%
South Asian 0.29%
West African -
Caucasus 0.09%
Finnish 35.46%
Mediterranean 2.40%
Southwest Asian -
North European 27.09%
East Asian -
Finnish 2:
Finnish 3:Quote:
Population
Western European 25.28%
Siberian 3.34%
East African 1.03%
West Central Asian 1.60%
South Asian 1.29%
West African -
Caucasus 0.61%
Finnish 30.44%
Mediterranean 6.28%
Southwest Asian -
North European 29.99%
East Asian 0.13%
Finnish 4:Quote:
Population
Western European 25.87%
Siberian 3.35%
East African -
West Central Asian 0.39%
South Asian 0.68%
West African -
Caucasus 1.23%
Finnish 33.92%
Mediterranean 4.46%
Southwest Asian -
North European 29.77%
East Asian 0.31%
Quote:
Population
Western European 21.83%
Siberian 5.06%
East African -
West Central Asian 0.35%
South Asian 2.35%
West African 0.29%
Caucasus 2.31%
Finnish 37.15%
Mediterranean 1.05%
Southwest Asian -
North European 29.60%
East Asian -
My granny dosnt have him, but we have a few common Roma matches with him last i checked...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pallantides
Polako is related haha. It'll be the Slav side though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pallantides
Hey Graham I noticed that my grandfather is not clustered in with the other Southern Italian/Sicilians on the map. He seems to be off on his own a bit I think towards Anatolia. What do you think?
I'm related to the wife on my mom's side. Apparently her parents were British.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Eurogenes K36
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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18.94% South_Central_Asian
18.24% East_Med
18.06% Near_Eastern
----------------------------
13.63% North_Caucasian
11.01% Armenian
10.29% West_Caucasian
----------------------------
4.03% Italian
2.75% Central_Euro
1.34% Arabian
0.97% Basque
0.65% West_Med
0.08% Iberian
----------------------------
EDIT: You guys've been using EUtest or K36 for the maps?
In anycase here is the my EUtest results..
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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37.64% EAST_MED
31.01% WEST_ASIAN
----------------------------
7.92% SOUTH_ASIAN
7.18% MIDDLE_EASTERN
----------------------------
3.94% WEST_MED
3.35% EAST_EURO
3.16% ATLANTIC
2.95% NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO
1.66% SOUTH_BALTIC
1.18% SIBERIAN
0.01% EAST_ASIAN
----------------------------
0.00% EAST_AFRICAN
0.00% WEST_AFRICAN
----------------------------
EDIT2: Updated with gedmatch.com results..
Nice gedmatch is online.. Updated the dendrogram with Otto P, South Italian(SI+Sicily), Balkan and myself.. Had to remove a few outliner..
http://abload.de/img/k13_mfa_apricity_mks2e.png
@MfA_
On the K13 map above, does my location approximate with the Tuscan or Sicilian populations?
Major Update
http://abload.de/img/k13_mfa_apricitykbq13.png
So where exactly does this put me?? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
Western Ukrainian Boyko: K=13.
https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/4...mapimagetg.jpg
One small thing - PT1 is Kadu and PT2 is Alexdelarge, so you technically have them on there twice. I don't know if you meant to or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
The naming i'm using is not interchangeable with Eurogenes, thus they are different persons..Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlantic Islander
Ah, okay. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
Based on K9:
The revenge of the hunter-gatherer genes!
Ours:
Me:
Asian: 2.10%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 2.18%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 21.36%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 74.33%
Granny:
Asian: 2.21%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 4.74%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 21.27%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 71.79%
Uncle:
African: 0.22%
Asian: 2.61%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 4.02%%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 22.22%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 71.03%
Aunt:
African: 0.26%
Asian: 1.20%%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 3.79%%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 22.82%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 71.36%
African: 0%
Asian: 9.58%
Arctic: 0.73%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 5.49%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 15.83%
Hattians, Kura-Araxes, Early Mesopotamian city-states, Proto-Anatolians: 68.38%
Quote:
Ancient DNA will tell us one day whether these assumptions are correct. However, please note that the new component names won't be relevant for everyone. For instance, if you're from East Africa or Turkey, then the Caucasus-like admixture you score won't be due to LBK farmers, because they were based in Western and Central Europe.
Me:
African: 0.71%
Asian: 1.24%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 9.06%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 25.52%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 63.48%
Father:
African: 0%
Asian: 2.26%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 4.83%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 27.50%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 65.40%
Grandfather:
African: 0%
Asian: 2.11%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 5.64%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 25.30%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 66.96%
Grandmother:
African: 0%
Asian: 1.15%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 5.22%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 28.38
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 65.25%
Mother:
African: 0.28%
Asian: 1.03%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 11.47%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 25.51
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 61.71
Aunt:
African: 0.24%
Asian: 2.27%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 6.43%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 27.33%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 63.73%
Me:
African: 0.44%
Asian: 6.16%
Arctic: 0.37%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 2.98%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 16.94%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 73.12%
My grandpa
African: 0.89%
Asian: 8.01%
Arctic: 1.16%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 1.45%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 15.61%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 72.89%
My results:
African: 0%
Asian(Siberian): 0.82%
Linearbandkeramik(LBK): 7.25%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 25.13%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 66.80%
Mine:
Arctic: 0.55%
Asian: 0.78%
African: 2.09%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 15.42%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 39.46%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 41.70%
Mine:
African: 0.92%
Arctic: 0.20%
Asian: 2.18%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK): 5.94%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB): 26.99%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker: 63.76%
0.00% Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker
75.33% Linearbandkeramik (LBK) (Of course, I'm not a descendant of LBK, since this data is based on Central and Western Europeans, who inherited this admixture from my predecessors)
21.30% Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB) (Same difference here as with Linearbandkermik)
3.13% South Asian
0.00% North Amerindian + Arctic
0.00% Siberian
0.00% East Asian
0.25% West African
http://abload.de/img/hapmap_zpse94860b22xalv.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by ZephyrousMandaru
I think Hattians, Kura-Araxes, Early Mesopotamian city-states, Proto-Anatolians instead of LBK is reasonable..
I dont think its applicable to non-Europeans...Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker - 62.66%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB) - 26.01%
Linearbandkeramik (LBK) - 8.92%
North Amerindian + Arctic - 1.62%
South Asian - 0.79%
My results:
Linearbandkeramik (LBK) = 45.38%
Impressed Ware, Cardial Ware, Maritime Bell Beaker and/or Funnelbeaker (TRB) = 30.77%
Corded Ware, Single Grave, Battle Axe, Unetice and/or Bohemian Bell Beaker = 21.69%
West African = 1.21%
East Asian = 0.62%
Siberian = 0.32%