Dodecad k12b south, west and central asian results

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Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

result from Naxcivan added:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...zeri-DNA/page3

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Thanks for the link!

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Originally Posted by Demhat

As I wrote in a later comment. It was not my intention to doubt the Turkic-ness of the people and I very much do believe most of the East Eurasian in Azeris and Turkmens there is Turkic derived. I was merely pointing out that allot of people around here are filtering the East Eurasian out as if it is something very foreign while this kind of ancestry did probably exist even in ancient times.

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Yea pamiris, tajiks, yaghnobis have ancient east eurasian

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Originally Posted by Babak

Yea pamiris, tajiks, yaghnobis have ancient east eurasian

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When we look at some Eastern Saka samples from Central Asia. Yes most of it might actually be from their ancient ancestors.

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Originally Posted by Demhat

Yezidis and Yarsan and to some extend the Alevis are based on Parthian type of Mithraism.

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Ancient pre-Shekh Adi Yezidism is older than Parthians.

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Originally Posted by Eline

Ancient pre-Shekh Adi Yezidism is older than Parthians.

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To be more clear: the Yezidism has Northern Mesopotamian roots and predate the Medes/Parthians by thousands of years.

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Originally Posted by Eline

Ancient pre-Shekh Adi Yezidism is older than Parthians.

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Yeah that is what I wrote it, roots date back to old Median times which itself had adopted ancient Mesopotamian elements such as planet cult, as by Prof. Kreyenbroek but the Parthian Dynasty changed that old religion in the way of making Mithra the personification of the sun. It literally connected the sun specifically to Mithra. And according to Kreyenbroek who was in Lalish there is a place of a burned down statue which according to him is most likely Mithra since Lalish itself is build the style of old Mithraistic underground shrines.

Half Pontic/Azov Greek, half Balkan Greek

Caucasus 41.14%
Atlantic_Med 19.5%
North_European 17.4%
Southwest_Asian 10.22%
Gedrosia 9.22%
Northwest_African 1.23%
Siberian 0.46%
Sub_Saharan 0.28%
South_Asian 0.23%
Southeast_Asian 0.17%
East_African 0.11%
East_Asian 0.05%

Distance to: Greek
6.21492558 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
8.39525461 Greek_Crete
10.58143658 Ashkenazy_Jews
10.61432749 Italy_Apulia
10.86551886 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.19597249 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.38857761 Greek
12.05950662 Ashkenazi
12.21228001 Italy_Calabria
12.55623530 Italy_Sicily
12.58181227 Turk_Central_West
12.64809970 Italy_Campania
13.21866164 Italy_Abruzzo
13.25240733 Turk_Anatolia
13.27311945 Turk_Northwest
13.60744282 Turk_Southwest
13.79426330 Greek_Cappadocia
13.80401029 Turk_Central_East
14.92951439 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
15.03976729 Turk_South

Target: Greek
Distance: 2.5774% / 2.57736521 | ADC: 0.5x
71.8 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
18.2 Greek_Cappadocia
7.8 Ashkenazy_Jews
2.2 Abhkasians

Target: Greek
Distance: 1.3999% / 1.39988911 | ADC: 0.25x
61.4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
13.8 Ashkenazy_Jews
8.2 Greek_Crete
5.8 Abhkasians
4.8 Cypriots
4.4 Georgian_Gurian
1.6 Greek

Unupdated oracle:

Target: Greek
Distance: 2.9151% / 2.91514190 | ADC: 0.5x
55.2 Greek
41.2 Turkish
3.6 Lezgins

Target: Greek
Distance: 1.4008% / 1.40083632 | ADC: 0.25x
48.4 Greek
22.0 Turkish
12.8 Lezgins
12.0 Ashkenazy_Jews
4.0 Lebanese
0.8 Chechens

Let's not derail the thread too much. When it's page after page without any results it is no good.

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Originally Posted by Demhat

Yeah that is what I wrote it, roots date back to old Median times which itself had adopted ancient Mesopotamian elements such as planet cult, as by Prof. Kreyenbroek but the Parthian Dynasty changed that old religion in the way of making Mithra the personification of the sun. It literally connected the sun specifically to Mithra. And according to Kreyenbroek who was in Lalish there is a place of a burned down statue which according to him is most likely Mithra since Lalish itself is build the style of old Mithraistic underground shrines.

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Yezidis don't use the word 'Mithra', but they use the ancient Mesopotamian/Sumerian (Akkadians took it later from the Sumerians) word for the Sun, 'Shems'. Shamas is a Mesopotamian/Sumerian word for the Sun, and the Yezidis use that word. They say Xode Shems and not Xode Mithra.


Mithra deity itself is derived from the Sumerian Shamas..

Mithra underground shrine.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/site...nt-Clement.jpg

Lalish underground shrine, according to Kreyenbroek there at the end of the tunnel there is a place typical for a Mithra statue and he assumes it was most likely destroyed by Christians
https://www.richardwilding.com/wp-co...Lalish-010.jpg