Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

sources given, mon ami. ad nauseum in fact. Now please, answer the question dear- why so much Slavic i2a1b in South Albania? Are the books about Slavic sea in South Albania lying as conspiracy of the Great SOROS? I am confused. Please don't give up- I'd like to see how bad your English gets as you try to formulate your next poor excuse for trolling.

Thanks IN ADVANCE.

Laberia, how did you know that me and Scholarios made Sorcelow make this thread? This was supposed to be a secret.

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Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis

sources given, mon ami. ad nauseum in fact. Now please, answer the question dear- why so much Slavic i2a1b in South Albania? Are the books about Slavic sea in South Albania lying as conspiracy of the Great SOROS? I am confused. Please don't give up- I'd like to see how bad your English gets as you try to formulate your next poor excuse for trolling.

Thanks IN ADVANCE.

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Where you have read all this presence of i2a1b in South Albania? Can you provide a source please?

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Originally Posted by Laberia

Where you have read all this presence of i2a1b in South Albania? Can you provide a source please?

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The I here is mostly I2-Din, i.e., I2a1b. Additionally, you have some R1, it isn't specific about how much R1a, but I've seen other studies going from 9 to 16%. Meaning it's beyond doubt that you have at least around a third or more Slavic Y-DNA in Tosks. When you also take into account that South Slavs aren't exclusively I2-Din and R1a, it means that the genetic contribution of the Slavs in South Albania in terms of Y-DNA was even greater than a third. Every Tosk has a Pyotr, Dima and Vadim inside of him.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT.../albanians.png

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Originally Posted by Laberia

Where you have read all this presence of i2a1b in South Albania? Can you provide a source please?

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http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v...g2015138a.html

Ghegs get around 6% I2+r1a combined.

Tosks about 23%

Arbereshe about 30%

(I do not count I1- brought by Normans, Goths, Catalans, etc)


You can interpret that any way your little heart desires.

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Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v...g2015138a.html

Ghegs get around 6% I2+r1a combined.

Tosks about 23%

Arbereshe about 30%

(I do not count I1- brought by Normans, Goths, Catalans, etc)


You can interpret that any way your little heart desires.

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How percent is the I2a1 and how is tghe R1a?
And another question. Is this I2a1 the same with I2a-Din?

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Originally Posted by Herr Abubu

The I here is mostly I2-Din, i.e., I2a1b. Additionally, you have some R1, it isn't specific about how much R1a, but I've seen other studies going from 9 to 16%. Meaning it's beyond doubt that you have at least around a third or more Slavic Y-DNA in Tosks. When you also take into account that South Slavs aren't exclusively I2-Din and R1a, it means that the genetic contribution of the Slavs in South Albania in terms of Y-DNA was even greater than a third. Every Tosk has a Pyotr, Dima and Vadim inside of him.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT.../albanians.png

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Can you tell me the source of your study? How do you know that I2-Din is a slavic haplogroup?

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Originally Posted by Herr Abubu

The I here is mostly I2-Din, i.e., I2a1b. Additionally, you have some R1, it isn't specific about how much R1a, but I've seen other studies going from 9 to 16%. Meaning it's beyond doubt that you have at least around a third or more Slavic Y-DNA in Tosks. When you also take into account that South Slavs aren't exclusively I2-Din and R1a, it means that the genetic contribution of the Slavs in South Albania in terms of Y-DNA was even greater than a third. Every Tosk has a Pyotr, Dima and Vadim inside of him.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT.../albanians.png

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I doubt that the part underlined is true. I think that you have a lot of Ratko in your blood.

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Originally Posted by Laberia

How percent is the I2a1 and how is tghe R1a?
And another question. Is this I2a1 the same with I2a-Din?

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For the first question, you shall have to read the article,

for the 2nd question- Yes, I2a1b- 3/4 of it, and probably most of the rest was also brought during Dark Age invasions IMHO. (this is also its origin among Greeks, as well, where it reaches similar levels, relative to region)

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Can you tell me the source of your study? How do you know that I2-Din is a slavic haplogroup?

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https://link.springer.com/article/10...414-010-0432-x

It undoubtedly is if you know anything about population genetics. It originated in Poland somewhere around the Carpathian mountains and spread from there. It's only estimated to be around 2k years old, so it's a very recent haplogroup. It peaks, by far, among South Slavs, in particular Slavs in Bosnia.