Originally Posted by
Graham
Rethel probably means by language, the Scots were the Irish(in Roman text) and those Scots married into/annexed Pictland who adopted the Irish culture. There was Irish(gaelic), Cumbric(North Welsh), Norn(Norse vikings descent), Pictish & Northumbrian Old English speakers.
The House of Alpin was both King of Picts, then King of Alba, then king of Scots over hundreds of years.
The 11th century Battle of Carham determined the Scottish/English border & Scotland as we know it. The combined united forces of Malcolm II of Scotland(House of Alpin) & Cumbric Owen King of Strathclyde, Conquered South East Scotland from the Northumbrian English of Cumbric and Anglo descent, and Strathclyde became a dependency of Scotland via bloodlines & marriages.
Not long after, the House of Dunkeld became Kings of Scots to consolidate its independent rule for a couple of hundred years. After the House of Dunkeld followed the wars of independence.
Anyway, you had a good discussion. :)