So Celts were North Europeans after all?

As far as i know Hallstatt is already considered an (early) Iron age culture. I'm not sure why you guys are assuming the sample is from 100 BC, that would be roughly the end of the Iron Age. Is there anything that i'm not aware of?

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Originally Posted by Creoda

Distance to: MX195_scaled
0.02659852 Bell_Beaker_FRA
0.02693785 CZE_EBA
0.02844741 DNK_MN_B
0.02860448 Bell_Beaker_England
0.02863652 Bell_Beaker_NLD
0.02865957 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.02962111 England_CA_EBA
0.03033295 Scythian_MDA_o
0.03062984 DEU_Unetice_EBA
0.03082092 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.03129264 NLD_BA
0.03160033 IRL_BA
0.03228671 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.03238384 England_LBA
0.03395100 Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main
0.03406685 SWE_Battle_Axe
0.03416138 Scotland_MBA
0.03431673 England_MBA
0.03536481 CZE_Bilina_BA
0.03538381 CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.03579864 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.03596234 SWE_LN
0.03685112 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.03726425 Bell_Beaker_Scotland
0.03879941 SWE_Megalithic_Olljso

Distance to: MX192_scaled
0.02581798 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.02969530 CZE_EBA
0.03127234 Scythian_MDA_o
0.03143245 England_CA_EBA
0.03143389 Bell_Beaker_FRA
0.03161895 Bell_Beaker_England
0.03275886 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.03307045 DEU_Unetice_EBA
0.03341150 Bell_Beaker_NLD
0.03343274 IRL_BA
0.03400888 England_MBA
0.03422868 Scotland_MBA
0.03490486 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.03507127 CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.03514939 DNK_MN_B
0.03557039 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.03605340 England_LBA
0.03643242 CZE_Bilina_BA
0.03649556 NLD_BA
0.03687678 SWE_Megalithic_Olljso
0.03711312 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.03767662 Bell_Beaker_England_EBA
0.03792013 SWE_LN
0.03816038 Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.03849249 England_IA

Distance to: MX190_scaled
0.03030072 Scotland_MBA
0.03070649 England_CA_EBA
0.03083514 CZE_Bilina_BA
0.03134146 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.03177048 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.03200347 DEU_Unetice_EBA
0.03238452 Bell_Beaker_England
0.03406376 England_MBA
0.03408697 CZE_EBA
0.03411035 NLD_BA
0.03469075 Bell_Beaker_NLD
0.03542268 Bell_Beaker_FRA
0.03560488 IRL_BA
0.03574927 Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.03576753 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.03605461 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.03607637 CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.03671761 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.03738546 DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.03800848 SWE_Megalithic_Olljso
0.03830760 Scotland_LBA
0.03837378 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian
0.03887208 England_IA
0.03986533 DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN
0.04000541 SWE_Battle_Axe

Distance to: MX188_scaled
0.02497517 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.02884425 Bell_Beaker_FRA
0.03006849 CZE_EBA
0.03074691 IRL_BA
0.03087664 England_CA_EBA
0.03093282 DEU_Unetice_EBA
0.03211723 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.03215635 Bell_Beaker_England
0.03237646 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA
0.03303028 DNK_MN_B
0.03417996 CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.03422824 Bell_Beaker_NLD
0.03446410 England_MBA
0.03459889 DNK_LN
0.03473913 Bell_Beaker_CZE
0.03476871 NLD_BA
0.03496947 Scotland_MBA
0.03529332 CZE_Bilina_BA
0.03530271 SWE_Battle_Axe
0.03596352 Scythian_MDA_o
0.03601677 SWE_Megalithic_Olljso
0.03638697 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale
0.03722150 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.03757043 DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.03758439 England_IA

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If these are really Iron Age Celts, why are England IA and Scotland LBA further away from them than Scotland EBA/MBA/BB and England EBA/MBA/BB?

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Originally Posted by Token

If they are correctly dated, i will say 'i told ya' to you and Grace.

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I'm not sure what this in reference to? Thanks for posting these interesting samples though.

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Originally Posted by Token

As far as i know Hallstatt is already considered an (early) Iron age culture. I'm not sure why you guys are assuming the sample is from 100 BC, that would be roughly the end of the Iron Age. Is there anything that i'm not aware of?

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You mentioned La Tene(450-50 BCE) and Petersky mentioned 100 BCE, not sure where the precise dating comes from, tbh we should wait for the details before speculating as we can build 100 theories all as possible as any other.

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Originally Posted by SharpFork

You mentioned La Tene(450-50 BCE) and Petersky mentioned 100 BCE, not sure where the precise dating comes from, tbh we should wait for the details before speculating as we can build 100 theories all as possible as any other.

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I only know they are from the Iron Age, maybe calling it La Tène was too precocious.

Looking at unscaled but unscaled does give some strange results.

Distance to: MX195
0.02578284 Norwegian
0.02606281 Grace_unscaled
0.02711835 Swedish
0.02778015 Welsh
0.02787837 Afrikaner
0.02807151 German
0.02813349 Dutch
0.02849624 French_Brittany
0.02857117 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02870161 Icelandic
0.02929875 Irish
0.02959342 Scottish
0.02973348 Orcadian
0.03044136 English
0.03061823 Shetlandic
0.03063097 Danish
0.03080346 Belgian
0.03111374 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03133332 Austrian
0.03142971 English_Cornwall
0.03153554 French_Nord
0.03239497 French_Alsace
0.03284300 French_Paris
0.03393647 Czech
0.03457507 Swiss_German

Comparisons with British Isles people:

Distance to: MX188_scaled
0.02497517 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.03074691 IRL_BA
0.03087664 England_CA_EBA
0.03446410 England_MBA
0.03496947 Scotland_MBA
0.03758439 England_IA
0.04416086 Wales_CA_EBA
0.04439941 Scotland_LBA
0.04526137 England_Roman
0.04642032 Orcadian
0.04784262 Irish
0.04838956 Welsh
0.04924562 English
0.05016711 Shetlandic
0.05195102 England_EMBA
0.05256981 English_Cornwall

Distance to: MX190_scaled
0.03030072 Scotland_MBA
0.03070649 England_CA_EBA
0.03406376 England_MBA
0.03560488 IRL_BA
0.03576753 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.03830760 Scotland_LBA
0.03887208 England_IA
0.04044366 England_Roman
0.04380038 Wales_CA_EBA
0.04402365 Orcadian
0.04476116 Irish
0.04550625 Welsh
0.04662647 Shetlandic
0.04731126 English
0.04943519 English_Cornwall
0.04975563 England_EMBA

Distance to: MX192_scaled
0.02581798 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.03143245 England_CA_EBA
0.03343274 IRL_BA
0.03400888 England_MBA
0.03422868 Scotland_MBA
0.03849249 England_IA
0.04532686 Scotland_LBA
0.04599462 Orcadian
0.04665161 England_Roman
0.04721007 Irish
0.04751994 Wales_CA_EBA
0.04871952 Welsh
0.04935383 Shetlandic
0.04946646 English
0.05315369 English_Cornwall
0.05352516 England_EMBA

Distance to: MX195_scaled
0.02962111 England_CA_EBA
0.03082092 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.03160033 IRL_BA
0.03416138 Scotland_MBA
0.03431673 England_MBA
0.04027800 England_IA
0.04557179 Scotland_LBA
0.04824951 Wales_CA_EBA
0.04877287 England_Roman
0.04884175 Orcadian
0.04893182 Irish
0.04994741 Shetlandic
0.05147107 Welsh
0.05280137 English
0.05332082 England_EMBA
0.05576292 English_Cornwall

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It would be interesting to see if Irish and British get a higher percentage of these samples than they do the Hallstatt samples.

Whoever these guys were, modern Swiss definitely prefer Hallstatt/southern shifted Lech samples over them. Swiss scoring no MX in the no Germanic model and their Y-DNA makes it extremely not likely for them to be Cimbri/Teutons imo if their dating of 100 BC is indeed correct. The models using only Scandinavian/British like northern-Euro proxies+Romans are unsurprisingly the worst, while models with a population already "central" consistently come out better.

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 0.8292% / 0.00829249
44.2 DEU_MA
17.8 DEU_Lech_EBA
11.6 DEU_Lech_MBA
9.2 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
9.2 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
8.0 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 0.8292% / 0.00829235
44.2 Germanic
37.4 Celt
9.2 ImperialRoman
9.2 Roman


model:

Spoiler!

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ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL30,0.113823,0.150298,-0.026398,-0.056848,0.008001,-0.015897,0.005875,0.001846,0.006136,0.015308,0.010 068,0.000599,-0.004757,0.003303,-0.0019,0.000133,0.005085,0.002787,0.004525,-0.001251,-0.001248,-0.008903,0.009983,-0.00253,-0.003233
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Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 1.2773% / 0.01277346
51.2 DEU_Lech_EBA
33.8 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
12.8 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
2.2 DEU_Lech_MBA

model:

Spoiler!

DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.05242,0. 026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154,0.00347 7,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143,0.056191,0.0 41021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006 744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.0014 79,-0.005422,-0.00467
DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065,0.046386,0. 034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.005769,0.00531 8,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003 268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
DEU_Lech_EBA: POST_44,0.124067,0.144205,0.056568,0.008721,0.0492 4,-0.001952,-0.00188,0.000692,0.008795,0.028247,0.001299,0.0092 92,-0.017988,-0.003028,0.005293,0.008353,-0.002608,-0.00266,0.004525,0.001126,-0.008235,-0.008285,-0.001356,-0.002651,-0.003233
DEU_Lech_EBA: POST_6,0.12862,0.128972,0.065996,0.053941,0.03416, 0.018128,0.00094,-0.002769,0.002863,0.001822,-0.006333,0.011989,-0.003865,-0.015001,0.015065,0.00305,-0.004303,-0.001394,0.002891,0.002751,0.007487,-0.003339,-0.004067,0.001446,-0.006107
DEU_Lech_EBA:UNTA85_1412,0.127482,0.14319,0.055437 ,0.032946,0.035391,0.009203,0.014806,-0.001154,-0.001841,0.010934,0.007957,0.008692,-0.018583,-0.018854,0.0076,0.016176,0.011865,-0.00266,0.004525,0.003877,-0.003244,-0.00371,-0.003821,0.019039,-0.004071
DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d,0.127482,0.156392,0.04 7894,0.005491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.0064 96,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855
ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016,0.127482,0.147252,0.03 3187,-0.016796,0.044008,-0.008646,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.026588,0.052666,-0.002761,0.015137,-0.036719,-0.008533,-0.009093,0.013392,0.016037,-0.004687,0.003897,0.004127,0.00262,-0.00272,0.001972,-0.007712,-0.008742
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL25,0.105855,0.151314,-0.029415,-0.052972,0.001846,-0.015897,-0.00282,-0.004615,0.001227,0.016583,0.006496,0.007643,-0.010258,0.004266,-0.004343,-0.004243,0.009518,-0.006081,0.011187,0.002126,-0.004492,0.009398,0.001479,-0.002048,0
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL30,0.113823,0.150298,-0.026398,-0.056848,0.008001,-0.015897,0.005875,0.001846,0.006136,0.015308,0.010 068,0.000599,-0.004757,0.003303,-0.0019,0.000133,0.005085,0.002787,0.004525,-0.001251,-0.001248,-0.008903,0.009983,-0.00253,-0.003233
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL38,0.101303,0.144205,-0.018856,-0.055556,0.007386,-0.016455,-0.00846,-0.008538,-0.004704,0.014397,0.004709,0.009591,-0.00996,-0.005643,-0.014251,0.000928,0.010561,0,-0.002263,0.001251,0.001123,0.006306,-0.002095,0.010001,0.008023
CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany: DA111,0.124067,0.151314,0.063356,0.026163,0.0437,0 .005857,0.001175,0.002308,0.020861,0.02442,-0.012342,0.00015,-0.01665,-0.003165,0.014658,-0.009546,-0.018254,0.003801,0.005908,0.001626,0.009858,0.006 059,-0.004437,-0.005904,-0.005269
CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany: DA112,0.133173,0.123895,0.077687,0.042313,0.052625 ,0.002231,0.00282,0.000462,0.016157,0.01549,-0.011692,-0.010641,-0.00223,0.004404,0.004479,0.006895,0.006258,-0.000253,0.003771,0.014507,-0.007736,-0.002102,0.003204,-0.00494,-0.001676
MX188_scaled,0.117238,0.129988,0.059962,0.057494,0 .021235,0.019801,-0.001645,0,-0.006545,-0.008383,0.000487,0.000749,-0.002081,-0.021194,0.013165,0.022142,0.004955,0.002534,-0.002388,0.010505,0.007362,0.003586,-0.003328,0.001205,-0.007544
MX190_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.059585,0.062016,0 .025235,0.030399,0.007285,0.008769,-0.008795,-0.002734,-0.009419,0,-0.014271,-0.015276,0.013843,0.008088,0.00352,-0.003674,-0.002011,0.007629,0.003868,0.009892,0.008997,-0.00976,-0.002036
MX192_scaled,0.124067,0.120848,0.066373,0.062339,0 .025235,0.023148,-0.008695,0.004384,-0.006954,-0.001276,0.002598,-0.003597,-0.007879,-0.00812,0.019679,0.021082,0.011995,0.003167,0,0.00 2376,0.00836,0.001607,-0.003944,0.002048,0.002634
MX195_scaled,0.122929,0.120848,0.064865,0.065892,0 .02185,0.026216,-0.00094,0.002538,-0.003068,-0.008201,0,0.002248,-0.010555,-0.008945,0.020629,0.024264,0.008996,-0.005194,-0.005782,0.008379,-0.00262,0.00371,0.000986,0.003012,0.001317[/QUOTE]

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 2.8792% / 0.02879185
35.2 MX190_scaled
30.6 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
21.8 MX192_scaled
12.2 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
0.2 MX188_scaled

model:

Spoiler!

Quote:

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ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016,0.127482,0.147252,0.03 3187,-0.016796,0.044008,-0.008646,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.026588,0.052666,-0.002761,0.015137,-0.036719,-0.008533,-0.009093,0.013392,0.016037,-0.004687,0.003897,0.004127,0.00262,-0.00272,0.001972,-0.007712,-0.008742
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL25,0.105855,0.151314,-0.029415,-0.052972,0.001846,-0.015897,-0.00282,-0.004615,0.001227,0.016583,0.006496,0.007643,-0.010258,0.004266,-0.004343,-0.004243,0.009518,-0.006081,0.011187,0.002126,-0.004492,0.009398,0.001479,-0.002048,0
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL30,0.113823,0.150298,-0.026398,-0.056848,0.008001,-0.015897,0.005875,0.001846,0.006136,0.015308,0.010 068,0.000599,-0.004757,0.003303,-0.0019,0.000133,0.005085,0.002787,0.004525,-0.001251,-0.001248,-0.008903,0.009983,-0.00253,-0.003233
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL38,0.101303,0.144205,-0.018856,-0.055556,0.007386,-0.016455,-0.00846,-0.008538,-0.004704,0.014397,0.004709,0.009591,-0.00996,-0.005643,-0.014251,0.000928,0.010561,0,-0.002263,0.001251,0.001123,0.006306,-0.002095,0.010001,0.008023
MX188_scaled,0.117238,0.129988,0.059962,0.057494,0 .021235,0.019801,-0.001645,0,-0.006545,-0.008383,0.000487,0.000749,-0.002081,-0.021194,0.013165,0.022142,0.004955,0.002534,-0.002388,0.010505,0.007362,0.003586,-0.003328,0.001205,-0.007544
MX190_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.059585,0.062016,0 .025235,0.030399,0.007285,0.008769,-0.008795,-0.002734,-0.009419,0,-0.014271,-0.015276,0.013843,0.008088,0.00352,-0.003674,-0.002011,0.007629,0.003868,0.009892,0.008997,-0.00976,-0.002036
MX192_scaled,0.124067,0.120848,0.066373,0.062339,0 .025235,0.023148,-0.008695,0.004384,-0.006954,-0.001276,0.002598,-0.003597,-0.007879,-0.00812,0.019679,0.021082,0.011995,0.003167,0,0.00 2376,0.00836,0.001607,-0.003944,0.002048,0.002634
MX195_scaled,0.122929,0.120848,0.064865,0.065892,0 .02185,0.026216,-0.00094,0.002538,-0.003068,-0.008201,0,0.002248,-0.010555,-0.008945,0.020629,0.024264,0.008996,-0.005194,-0.005782,0.008379,-0.00262,0.00371,0.000986,0.003012,0.001317

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Quote:

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

It would be interesting to see if Irish and British get a higher percentage of these samples than they do the Hallstatt samples.

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They score none, as well as if you only use them without Hallstatt/Lech, and the fits are worse.

Target: English
Distance: 0.8788% / 0.00878765
39.6 DEU_MA
33.0 Scotland_LBA
16.6 DEU_Lech_EBA
10.8 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany

Target: Irish
Distance: 1.1955% / 0.01195493
61.4 Scotland_LBA
26.6 DEU_MA
10.0 DEU_Lech_EBA
2.0 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany

model:

Spoiler!

Quote:

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DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.05242,0. 026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154,0.00347 7,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143,0.056191,0.0 41021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006 744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.0014 79,-0.005422,-0.00467
DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065,0.046386,0. 034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.005769,0.00531 8,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003 268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
DEU_Lech_EBA: POST_6,0.12862,0.128972,0.065996,0.053941,0.03416, 0.018128,0.00094,-0.002769,0.002863,0.001822,-0.006333,0.011989,-0.003865,-0.015001,0.015065,0.00305,-0.004303,-0.001394,0.002891,0.002751,0.007487,-0.003339,-0.004067,0.001446,-0.006107
DEU_Lech_EBA: POST_44,0.124067,0.144205,0.056568,0.008721,0.0492 4,-0.001952,-0.00188,0.000692,0.008795,0.028247,0.001299,0.0092 92,-0.017988,-0.003028,0.005293,0.008353,-0.002608,-0.00266,0.004525,0.001126,-0.008235,-0.008285,-0.001356,-0.002651,-0.003233
DEU_Lech_EBA:UNTA85_1412,0.127482,0.14319,0.055437 ,0.032946,0.035391,0.009203,0.014806,-0.001154,-0.001841,0.010934,0.007957,0.008692,-0.018583,-0.018854,0.0076,0.016176,0.011865,-0.00266,0.004525,0.003877,-0.003244,-0.00371,-0.003821,0.019039,-0.004071
DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d,0.127482,0.156392,0.04 7894,0.005491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.0064 96,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855
CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany: DA111,0.124067,0.151314,0.063356,0.026163,0.0437,0 .005857,0.001175,0.002308,0.020861,0.02442,-0.012342,0.00015,-0.01665,-0.003165,0.014658,-0.009546,-0.018254,0.003801,0.005908,0.001626,0.009858,0.006 059,-0.004437,-0.005904,-0.005269
CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany: DA112,0.133173,0.123895,0.077687,0.042313,0.052625 ,0.002231,0.00282,0.000462,0.016157,0.01549,-0.011692,-0.010641,-0.00223,0.004404,0.004479,0.006895,0.006258,-0.000253,0.003771,0.014507,-0.007736,-0.002102,0.003204,-0.00494,-0.001676
MX188_scaled,0.117238,0.129988,0.059962,0.057494,0 .021235,0.019801,-0.001645,0,-0.006545,-0.008383,0.000487,0.000749,-0.002081,-0.021194,0.013165,0.022142,0.004955,0.002534,-0.002388,0.010505,0.007362,0.003586,-0.003328,0.001205,-0.007544
MX190_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.059585,0.062016,0 .025235,0.030399,0.007285,0.008769,-0.008795,-0.002734,-0.009419,0,-0.014271,-0.015276,0.013843,0.008088,0.00352,-0.003674,-0.002011,0.007629,0.003868,0.009892,0.008997,-0.00976,-0.002036
MX192_scaled,0.124067,0.120848,0.066373,0.062339,0 .025235,0.023148,-0.008695,0.004384,-0.006954,-0.001276,0.002598,-0.003597,-0.007879,-0.00812,0.019679,0.021082,0.011995,0.003167,0,0.00 2376,0.00836,0.001607,-0.003944,0.002048,0.002634
MX195_scaled,0.122929,0.120848,0.064865,0.065892,0 .02185,0.026216,-0.00094,0.002538,-0.003068,-0.008201,0,0.002248,-0.010555,-0.008945,0.020629,0.024264,0.008996,-0.005194,-0.005782,0.008379,-0.00262,0.00371,0.000986,0.003012,0.001317
DEU_MA:AED_106,0.125205,0.133034,0.064865,0.067184 ,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.002863,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
DEU_MA:AED_249,0.125205,0.126941,0.071653,0.04845, 0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
DEU_MA:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0. 048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
DEU_MA:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481,0 .045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
DEU_MA:ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0.061848,0.038114,0. 036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
DEU_MA:NW_255,0.118376,0.140143,0.060716,0.049742, 0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
DEU_MA:STR_316,0.125205,0.12491,0.071653,0.057494, 0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
DEU_MA:STR_480,0.122929,0.135065,0.062979,0.033269 ,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017307,0.003068,0.0080 18,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
DEU_MA:STR_486,0.120652,0.137096,0.04714,0.055233, 0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.011999,0.010431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
Scotland_LBA:I2859,0.130897,0.140143,0.060716,0.05 2649,0.042162,0.017291,0.00705,0.003692,0.00634,0. 001822,-0.00682,0.004946,-0.019326,-0.016652,0.020765,0.018563,-0.009127,0.003421,0.004148,0.009379,0.008485,0.007 543,0.002711,0.006145,0.007784
Scotland_LBA:I2860,0.136588,0.135065,0.065619,0.05 5233,0.040315,0.023985,0.00517,0.005077,0.000614,-0.002916,-0.005196,0.005545,-0.015907,-0.012524,0.020222,-0.003447,-0.01343,0.005574,-0.002388,-0.003877,0.001622,0.006801,-0.003451,0.002289,0.002994
Scotland_LBA:I2861,0.124067,0.126941,0.063733,0.04 7481,0.032006,0.020638,0.000705,-0.001385,-0.00409,-0.005467,-0.005846,0.009591,-0.019772,-0.014175,0.025787,0.006895,-0.006519,0.005448,0.002765,-0.004377,0.004617,-0.001237,0.001232,0.004579,0.001916
Scotland_LBA:I3130,0.127482,0.132019,0.062225,0.05 5556,0.026159,0.015339,0.011516,0.004846,0.004704,-0.004374,-0.006171,0.005845,-0.017096,-0.022295,0.03013,0.001458,-0.028293,0,0.008673,0.001,0.007861,0.004822,-0.001849,0.003856,0.003832

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Target: English
Distance: 1.1869% / 0.01186930
56.0 DEU_MA
44.0 Scotland_LBA

Target: Irish
Distance: 1.2403% / 0.01240279
67.4 Scotland_LBA
32.6 DEU_MA

model:

Spoiler!

Quote:

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MX188_scaled,0.117238,0.129988,0.059962,0.057494,0 .021235,0.019801,-0.001645,0,-0.006545,-0.008383,0.000487,0.000749,-0.002081,-0.021194,0.013165,0.022142,0.004955,0.002534,-0.002388,0.010505,0.007362,0.003586,-0.003328,0.001205,-0.007544
MX190_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.059585,0.062016,0 .025235,0.030399,0.007285,0.008769,-0.008795,-0.002734,-0.009419,0,-0.014271,-0.015276,0.013843,0.008088,0.00352,-0.003674,-0.002011,0.007629,0.003868,0.009892,0.008997,-0.00976,-0.002036
MX192_scaled,0.124067,0.120848,0.066373,0.062339,0 .025235,0.023148,-0.008695,0.004384,-0.006954,-0.001276,0.002598,-0.003597,-0.007879,-0.00812,0.019679,0.021082,0.011995,0.003167,0,0.00 2376,0.00836,0.001607,-0.003944,0.002048,0.002634
MX195_scaled,0.122929,0.120848,0.064865,0.065892,0 .02185,0.026216,-0.00094,0.002538,-0.003068,-0.008201,0,0.002248,-0.010555,-0.008945,0.020629,0.024264,0.008996,-0.005194,-0.005782,0.008379,-0.00262,0.00371,0.000986,0.003012,0.001317
DEU_MA:AED_106,0.125205,0.133034,0.064865,0.067184 ,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.002863,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
DEU_MA:AED_249,0.125205,0.126941,0.071653,0.04845, 0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
DEU_MA:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0. 048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
DEU_MA:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481,0 .045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
DEU_MA:ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0.061848,0.038114,0. 036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
DEU_MA:NW_255,0.118376,0.140143,0.060716,0.049742, 0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
DEU_MA:STR_316,0.125205,0.12491,0.071653,0.057494, 0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
DEU_MA:STR_480,0.122929,0.135065,0.062979,0.033269 ,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017307,0.003068,0.0080 18,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
DEU_MA:STR_486,0.120652,0.137096,0.04714,0.055233, 0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.011999,0.010431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
Scotland_LBA:I2859,0.130897,0.140143,0.060716,0.05 2649,0.042162,0.017291,0.00705,0.003692,0.00634,0. 001822,-0.00682,0.004946,-0.019326,-0.016652,0.020765,0.018563,-0.009127,0.003421,0.004148,0.009379,0.008485,0.007 543,0.002711,0.006145,0.007784
Scotland_LBA:I2860,0.136588,0.135065,0.065619,0.05 5233,0.040315,0.023985,0.00517,0.005077,0.000614,-0.002916,-0.005196,0.005545,-0.015907,-0.012524,0.020222,-0.003447,-0.01343,0.005574,-0.002388,-0.003877,0.001622,0.006801,-0.003451,0.002289,0.002994
Scotland_LBA:I2861,0.124067,0.126941,0.063733,0.04 7481,0.032006,0.020638,0.000705,-0.001385,-0.00409,-0.005467,-0.005846,0.009591,-0.019772,-0.014175,0.025787,0.006895,-0.006519,0.005448,0.002765,-0.004377,0.004617,-0.001237,0.001232,0.004579,0.001916
Scotland_LBA:I3130,0.127482,0.132019,0.062225,0.05 5556,0.026159,0.015339,0.011516,0.004846,0.004704,-0.004374,-0.006171,0.005845,-0.017096,-0.022295,0.03013,0.001458,-0.028293,0,0.008673,0.001,0.007861,0.004822,-0.001849,0.003856,0.003832

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Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian

Whoever these guys were, modern Swiss definitely prefer Hallstatt/southern shifted Lech samples over them. Swiss scoring no MX in the no Germanic model and their Y-DNA makes it extremely not likely for them to be Cimbri/Teutons imo if their dating of 100 BC is indeed correct. The models using only Scandinavian/British like northern-Euro proxies+Romans are unsurprisingly the worst, while models with a population already "central" consistently come out better.

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 0.8292% / 0.00829249
44.2 DEU_MA
17.8 DEU_Lech_EBA
11.6 DEU_Lech_MBA
9.2 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
9.2 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
8.0 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 0.8292% / 0.00829235
44.2 Germanic
37.4 Celt
9.2 ImperialRoman
9.2 Roman


model:

Spoiler!

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 1.2773% / 0.01277346
51.2 DEU_Lech_EBA
33.8 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
12.8 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
2.2 DEU_Lech_MBA

model:

Spoiler!

DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.05242,0. 026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154,0.00347 7,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143,0.056191,0.0 41021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006 744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.0014 79,-0.005422,-0.00467
DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065,0.046386,0. 034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.005769,0.00531 8,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003 268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
DEU_Lech_EBA: POST_44,0.124067,0.144205,0.056568,0.008721,0.0492 4,-0.001952,-0.00188,0.000692,0.008795,0.028247,0.001299,0.0092 92,-0.017988,-0.003028,0.005293,0.008353,-0.002608,-0.00266,0.004525,0.001126,-0.008235,-0.008285,-0.001356,-0.002651,-0.003233
DEU_Lech_EBA: POST_6,0.12862,0.128972,0.065996,0.053941,0.03416, 0.018128,0.00094,-0.002769,0.002863,0.001822,-0.006333,0.011989,-0.003865,-0.015001,0.015065,0.00305,-0.004303,-0.001394,0.002891,0.002751,0.007487,-0.003339,-0.004067,0.001446,-0.006107
DEU_Lech_EBA:UNTA85_1412,0.127482,0.14319,0.055437 ,0.032946,0.035391,0.009203,0.014806,-0.001154,-0.001841,0.010934,0.007957,0.008692,-0.018583,-0.018854,0.0076,0.016176,0.011865,-0.00266,0.004525,0.003877,-0.003244,-0.00371,-0.003821,0.019039,-0.004071
DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d,0.127482,0.156392,0.04 7894,0.005491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.0064 96,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855
ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016,0.127482,0.147252,0.03 3187,-0.016796,0.044008,-0.008646,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.026588,0.052666,-0.002761,0.015137,-0.036719,-0.008533,-0.009093,0.013392,0.016037,-0.004687,0.003897,0.004127,0.00262,-0.00272,0.001972,-0.007712,-0.008742
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL25,0.105855,0.151314,-0.029415,-0.052972,0.001846,-0.015897,-0.00282,-0.004615,0.001227,0.016583,0.006496,0.007643,-0.010258,0.004266,-0.004343,-0.004243,0.009518,-0.006081,0.011187,0.002126,-0.004492,0.009398,0.001479,-0.002048,0
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL30,0.113823,0.150298,-0.026398,-0.056848,0.008001,-0.015897,0.005875,0.001846,0.006136,0.015308,0.010 068,0.000599,-0.004757,0.003303,-0.0019,0.000133,0.005085,0.002787,0.004525,-0.001251,-0.001248,-0.008903,0.009983,-0.00253,-0.003233
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL38,0.101303,0.144205,-0.018856,-0.055556,0.007386,-0.016455,-0.00846,-0.008538,-0.004704,0.014397,0.004709,0.009591,-0.00996,-0.005643,-0.014251,0.000928,0.010561,0,-0.002263,0.001251,0.001123,0.006306,-0.002095,0.010001,0.008023
CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany: DA111,0.124067,0.151314,0.063356,0.026163,0.0437,0 .005857,0.001175,0.002308,0.020861,0.02442,-0.012342,0.00015,-0.01665,-0.003165,0.014658,-0.009546,-0.018254,0.003801,0.005908,0.001626,0.009858,0.006 059,-0.004437,-0.005904,-0.005269
CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany: DA112,0.133173,0.123895,0.077687,0.042313,0.052625 ,0.002231,0.00282,0.000462,0.016157,0.01549,-0.011692,-0.010641,-0.00223,0.004404,0.004479,0.006895,0.006258,-0.000253,0.003771,0.014507,-0.007736,-0.002102,0.003204,-0.00494,-0.001676
MX188_scaled,0.117238,0.129988,0.059962,0.057494,0 .021235,0.019801,-0.001645,0,-0.006545,-0.008383,0.000487,0.000749,-0.002081,-0.021194,0.013165,0.022142,0.004955,0.002534,-0.002388,0.010505,0.007362,0.003586,-0.003328,0.001205,-0.007544
MX190_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.059585,0.062016,0 .025235,0.030399,0.007285,0.008769,-0.008795,-0.002734,-0.009419,0,-0.014271,-0.015276,0.013843,0.008088,0.00352,-0.003674,-0.002011,0.007629,0.003868,0.009892,0.008997,-0.00976,-0.002036
MX192_scaled,0.124067,0.120848,0.066373,0.062339,0 .025235,0.023148,-0.008695,0.004384,-0.006954,-0.001276,0.002598,-0.003597,-0.007879,-0.00812,0.019679,0.021082,0.011995,0.003167,0,0.00 2376,0.00836,0.001607,-0.003944,0.002048,0.002634
MX195_scaled,0.122929,0.120848,0.064865,0.065892,0 .02185,0.026216,-0.00094,0.002538,-0.003068,-0.008201,0,0.002248,-0.010555,-0.008945,0.020629,0.024264,0.008996,-0.005194,-0.005782,0.008379,-0.00262,0.00371,0.000986,0.003012,0.001317

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Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 2.8792% / 0.02879185
35.2 MX190_scaled
30.6 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
21.8 MX192_scaled
12.2 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
0.2 MX188_scaled

model:


They score none, as well as if you only use them without Hallstatt/Lech, and the fits are worse.

Target: English
Distance: 0.8788% / 0.00878765
39.6 DEU_MA
33.0 Scotland_LBA
16.6 DEU_Lech_EBA
10.8 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany

Target: Irish
Distance: 1.1955% / 0.01195493
61.4 Scotland_LBA
26.6 DEU_MA
10.0 DEU_Lech_EBA
2.0 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany

model:


Target: English
Distance: 1.1869% / 0.01186930
56.0 DEU_MA
44.0 Scotland_LBA

Target: Irish
Distance: 1.2403% / 0.01240279
67.4 Scotland_LBA
32.6 DEU_MA

model:

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Thanks. I get none with these models either.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8717% / 0.01871730
57.8 Scotland_LBA
42.2 DEU_MA

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8360% / 0.01836007
49.0 Scotland_LBA
39.0 DEU_MA
6.0 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
6.0 DEU_Lech_EBA