R1a-z93 in Kyrgyz people. Explanation?

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

Ok, that's fine. However, I disagree that somehow religion=race. I'm sure you wouldn't think an Orthodox Somalian who believes 100% the same things you do would be considered white or European, so a Bulgarian, Gaugaz, etc Muslim not being "white" for being Muslim is just as odd to me.

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European Muslims are a very small percentage of all Muslims in the world. There is like 2 million Bosniaks and 5 million Albanians but not all of them are religious, not all would even identify as Muslim. There are also some thousands of European converts in Western Europe and North America but compared to the Middle East, parts of South Asia and Africa those numbers are just tiny. Religion isn't a race obviosuly but the vast majority of Muslims in and outside of Europe are definitely not of European descent.

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Originally Posted by Leto

European Muslims are a very small percentage of all Muslims in the world. There is like 2 million Bosniaks and 5 million Albanians but not all of them are religious, not all would even identify as Muslim. There are also some thousands of European converts in Western Europe and North America but compared to the Middle East, parts of South Asia and Africa those numbers are just tiny. Religion isn't a race obviosuly but the vast majority of Muslims in and outside of Europe are definitely not of European descent.

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Are all Europeans white to you then? I know you make a lot of posts here about various topics, but I honestly don't know or understand your perspectives because I think there are overlapping terms.

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

Are all Europeans white to you then? I know you make a lot of posts here about various topics, but I honestly don't know or understand your perspectives because I think there are overlapping terms.

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Generally speaking, yes, white equals European. There are a few nuances though.
Please don't quote me in this thread anymore, I don't want to continue.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Generally speaking, yes, white equals European. There are a few nuances though.
Please don't quote me in this thread anymore, I don't want to continue.

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I've already disengaged earlier. This will be all, then.

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

I am proud to be R, and I am proud of the Turkics who founded our tribes and cultures.

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What subclade of R are you?

We will see.
There really is a chance that the early Turkic people come from one of the sub-subclades of hg R.

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Originally Posted by Mingle

What subclade of R are you?

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For some reason I thought that you asked this before.

I'm R1b-U106. One Hun and three Hungarian conqueror graves matches my Y-DNA results. I specifically match the Karos III Hungarian grave; we share DNA.

I also have matches in Uzbekistan.

https://i.imgur.com/ORvJXCt.png

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Originally Posted by Chelubey

We will see.
There really is a chance that the early Turkic people come from one of the sub-subclades of hg R.

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Yes. R1b M73
And the bashkort R1b clade

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Originally Posted by Leto

But even the Asian branches weren't originally Turkic.

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Sorry, but your propaganda doesn't work anymore, Steppe_MLBA is a Turkic R1a marker. Get lost.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Maybe for you it is different but for us Russians/East Slavs there is nothing to be proud of in the Turco-Mongol influence (thank God it's minor or non-existent) because those savage motherfuckers (Turco-Mongols) came to our lands and destroyed and burned down everything.

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Last time I checked, Slavs have 50% ANE-related MONGOL FU**ING DNA. Be proud of this.