Origin of I2-din. Slavic, Paleo-Balkan or?

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05-26-2020, 03:54 PM
Jana

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy20

It is thought to have originated in East Poland/West Ukraine area, moving south with Slavic migration. I vaguely remember reading that these specific tribes where pushed out due to conflict hence the higher percentages in the Balkans/founder effect as Blondie mentioned.

Higher percentage in dinaric alps is simply because people there had incredible large amount of children compared to lowland farmers, they didn't have to split their lands among them like farmer Slavs did (these dinaric Slavs adopted Vach sheperding lifestyle)

That is why dinaric Slav I2a is super young and lacks diversity compared to place like Ukraine.
05-26-2020, 03:58 PM
PaleoEuropean

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

13000 years old hahaha. Stupid, my fathers branch dates to 6th century after Christ, so early medieval. Stop taking drugs and further embarassing yourself.

I2a Din and Isles split from their core clade over 10,000 years ago Stears, the oldes Isles clade comes from Poland Stears, it's not rocket science.
05-26-2020, 04:02 PM
Jana

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Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean

I2a Din and Isles split from their core clade over 13,000 years ago Stears, the oldes Isles clade comes from Poland Stears, it's not rocket science.

No, Slavic (din branch) is 4 times younger than that. You were caught in lies, dirty troll

https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y3120/

Stears is I1. And the fact it's brother clades are all in NW Europe points to its deep origin which are modern SW German lands tousands of km away from "Balkans"

Deal with it and stop leacturing me about my fathers hg redneck.
05-26-2020, 04:08 PM
PaleoEuropean

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

No, Slavic (din branch) is 4 times younger than that. You were caught in lies, dirty troll

https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y3120/

Stears is I1. And the fact it's brother clades are all in NW Europe points to its deep origin which are modern SW German lands tousands of km away from "Balkans"

Deal with it and stop leacturing me about my fathers hg redneck.

Believe whatever you want to believe. I2a Isles and Din split before the Neolithic. You make people on Stormfront with their crackpot theories look like genius visionaries with your lack of knowledge of supposedly your own fathers subclade. I2 Isles came to Northern Europe over 12,000 years ago. Motala and Loschbour man are I2a Isles Stears, were they time travelers who went back in time 10,000 years? Stop hijacking your girlfriends account because you are conflicted about your identity. People here actually read and study, everyone knows I2a Din and Isles split over 10,000 years ago.
05-26-2020, 04:39 PM
Ford

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Originally Posted by Vojnik

Would be cool if it was Illyrian or something paleo-Balkan, but i'm afraid it's Slavic (eastern european) in origin. The I2 that is of high frequency in the Balkans. There's nothing wrong with that.

The Mesopotamian branch, as the Sardinian branch, are different to the Dinaric/Balkan branch.

Why would you want to descend from gypsy pirates who were eternally raped by the Romans? The concentration of I2 in the Balkans is a testament of Slavic hegemony in the region.
05-26-2020, 05:58 PM
Bosniensis

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Originally Posted by Ford

Why would you want to descend from gypsy pirates who were eternally raped by the Romans? The concentration of I2 in the Balkans is a testament of Slavic hegemony in the region.

Then who are those R1a people? Turks?

Could it be that we are Slavs and that Russians are Turks then?

If I2 are Slavs then R1a are someone else.

Whatever you decide you can't say that R1a and I2 people belong to the same civilization just like Sardinians are obviously not related to R1b people of Italy.
05-26-2020, 06:06 PM
PaleoEuropean

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Originally Posted by Ford

Why would you want to descend from gypsy pirates who were eternally raped by the Romans? The concentration of I2 in the Balkans is a testament of Slavic hegemony in the region.

Illyrians were most likely E,J and R mostly. I won't dispute that the I2 may have migrated from the Balkans and back in, but regardless I2 is Paleo-Balkan pre-Slavic, Pre-Roman, Pre-Illyrian or pre-anyone else. They could have moved into the Ukraine I is a very migratory set of groups; but most certainly I2 was born in the Balkan region and the split between Isles and Din happened in the Balkans. The question is the origin not the concentration.
05-26-2020, 06:13 PM
Terminator98

Selfhating Bosniensis (Slavic part) vs selfhating Feiichy (Balkan part) vs PaleoEuropean true lover of I2 HG and honorary Balkaner. Who will win in this clash of titans, I wonder? :eusa_eh::icon_eek:
05-26-2020, 06:16 PM
Ülev

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

Then who are those R1a people? Turks?

Could it be that we are Slavs and that Russians are Turks then?

If I2 are Slavs then R1a are someone else.

Whatever you decide you can't say that R1a and I2 people belong to the same civilization just like Sardinians are obviously not related to R1b people of Italy.

yes, I2a1 the purest Slavs, R1a - Balts, Sarmatians (Sramotians, lol) Scythians etc.
05-26-2020, 06:19 PM
Jana

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Originally Posted by Terminator98

Selfhating Bosniensis (Slavic part) vs selfhating Feiichy (Balkan part) vs PaleoEuropean true lover of I2 HG and honorary Balkaner. Who will win in this clash of titans, I wonder? :eusa_eh::icon_eek:

I can't be self-hating because I am only in minority Paleo-Balkan, I belong to Slavic ethnic group speaking slavic language.

Please, stop being ridiculous.

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