How to group Italian samples in order to obtain good references?

What do you think of this?

I leave it like that?:



South Italy:

Option A

Code:

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Sout_Italian:A,0.10736598,0.14725883,-0.00537531,-0.04065114,0.01536774,-0.01480103,-0.00041355,-0.00131084,0.00544821,0.02098400,0.00147906,0.00318490,-0.00570559,0.00030105,-0.00697726,-0.00277458,0.00198963,-0.00014346,0.00262584,-0.00482755,-0.00234661,0.00195073,0.00064253,0.00137365,0.00009691

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Sout_Italian:A,=Italian_Apulia,+Italian_Basilicata ,+Italian_Campania,+Sicilian_Average

Option B

Code:

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South_Italian:Mainland,0.10765055,0.14730115,-0.00740228,-0.04272373,0.01384175,-0.01458015,-0.00069750,-0.00217618,0.00395688,0.02090800,0.00024765,0.00301008,-0.00603383,-0.00056470,-0.00836273,-0.00287953,0.00428768,0.00024715,0.00346385,-0.00433768,-0.00310053,0.00091510,0.00123820,0.00246810,0.00004713
South_Italain:Sicilian,0.10168200,0.14606700,-0.00383415,-0.03832935,0.01861865,-0.01259680,-0.00129250,0.00030765,0.01046465,0.02180770,0.00535865,0.00349700,-0.00418735,0.00250000,-0.00409415,-0.00483950,-0.00236850,-0.00059115,0.00180165,-0.00500250,0.00039535,0.00175180,-0.00254700,-0.00060250,0.00031915

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South_Italian:Mainland,=Italian_Basilicata,+Italia n_Campania,+Italian_Apulia,+Italian_Calabria,

South_Italian:Sicilian,=Sicilian_East,+Sicilian_We st,

Center Italy:

Code:

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Central_Italian:A,0.11701408,0.14925148,0.00917310,-0.02814708,0.02221933,-0.01003865,0.00044550,-0.00159775,0.00642820,0.02364700,0.00002603,0.00452040,-0.00955638,-0.00467495,-0.00375115,0.00052440,0.00259400,0.00045623,0.00235623,-0.00327855,-0.00208228,0.00226180,-0.00011475,0.00257140,-0.00120693

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Central_Italian:A,=Italian_Marche,+Italian_Lazio,+ Italian_Tuscany,+Italian_Umbria,


North Italy:

Option A

Code:

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North_Italian:NWest_ItalianB,0.12088005,0.14803870,0.02668133,-0.01301690,0.03185970,-0.00463645,0.00173313,0.00075578,0.00955653,0.02676138,-0.00346693,0.00623440,-0.01254318,-0.00359883,-0.00175085,-0.00680175,-0.00355968,0.00073808,0.00363588,-0.00318288,-0.00152863,0.00101390,-0.00082878,0.00284960,0.00022458
North_Italian:NEast_ItalianA,0.12542900,0.14592190,0.03352107,-0.00264457,0.03564947,-0.00060257,0.00285707,0.00234943,0.00940747,0.02095333,-0.00253820,0.00509107,-0.01078937,-0.00234117,-0.00259897,-0.00018743,0.00269963,0.00150253,0.00365313,-0.00328243,-0.00198453,0.00203360,-0.00081240,0.00217507,-0.00182223
North_Italian:NWest_Italian_Aosta-Valley,0.1269696,0.1460839,0.0392582,0.0047481,0.036976,-0.0015478,0.0024088,0.0028038,0.0102262,0.0219594,-0.004766,0.0049306,-0.0147248,-0.010356,0.0074986,0.0062582,0.0051892,-0.000285,0.003375,-0.0005378,0.0029261,0.0019476,-0.0009181,0.0081396,-5.98e-05

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North_Italian:NWest_ItalianB,=Italian_Bergamo,+Ita lian_Lombardy,+Italian_Liguria,+Italian_Piedmont,

North_Italian:NEast_ItalianA,=Italian_Veneto,+Ital ian_Trentino-Alto-Adige,+Italian_Northeast,

North_Italian:NWest_Italian_Aosta-Valley,=Italian_Aosta-Valley

Option B

Code:

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North_Italian:NWest_ItalianA,0.12070933,0.14655777,0.02910123,-0.00726750,0.03182627,-0.00322107,0.00253410,0.00137310,0.00910150,0.02380610,-0.00491210,0.00471067,-0.01256423,-0.00458970,0.00161273,-0.00296987,-0.00011317,0.00007823,0.00310690,-0.00120490,0.00003520,0.00159713,0.00020753,0.00423140,-0.00031917
North_Italian:NEast_ItalianA,0.12542900,0.14592190,0.03352107,-0.00264457,0.03564947,-0.00060257,0.00285707,0.00234943,0.00940747,0.02095333,-0.00253820,0.00509107,-0.01078937,-0.00234117,-0.00259897,-0.00018743,0.00269963,0.00150253,0.00365313,-0.00328243,-0.00198453,0.00203360,-0.00081240,0.00217507,-0.00182223

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North_Italian:NEast_ItalianA,=Italian_Veneto,+Ital ian_Trentino-Alto-Adige,+Italian_Northeast,

North_Italian:NWest_ItalianA=Italian_Aosta_Valley, +Italian_Piedmont,+Italian_Liguria,

Sardinian

Code:

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Sardinian,0.1216872,0.1672855,0.0284897,-0.0506523,0.060151,-0.0221337,-0.0039523,0.0024964,0.0415743,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.0166487,-0.0286645,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.0030013,0.0114027,-0.0013475,0.0016798,-0.0129947,-0.0021212,-0.0011018,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.0003375

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Sardinian,=Sardinian

Edit:I change reference names.

Distance: 3.0695% / 0.03069495
78.0 NorthEast_Italian
15.6 NorthWest_Italian
6.4 Sardinian

0.03149306 NorthEast_Italian
0.03262681 NorthWest_Italian
0.06052799 Central_Italian
0.08157832 Sout_Italian
0.09656363 Sardinian


Mother:
Distance: 2.9332% / 0.02933249
41.0 NorthEast_Italian
34.0 Sardinian
25.0 NorthWest_Italian

0.04379811 NorthWest_Italian
0.04522853 NorthEast_Italian
0.05274046 Central_Italian
0.06960058 Sout_Italian
0.07048352 Sardinian

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Originally Posted by Luso

Is there any Italians with interest in G25 samples here?

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I am but where do I buy it? I forgot the creator s email.

I do not understand why you are putting aside Sicily but not Calabria .

I suggest

1= Sicily and Calabria
2= Abruzzo and Molise (Molise is more north shifted due to Longobard settlers)
3= the rest.

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Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly

I do not understand why you are putting aside Sicily but not Calabria .

I suggest

1= Sicily and Calabria
2= Abruzzo and Molise (Molise is more north shifted due to Longobard settlers)
3= the rest.

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The problem with Calabria is that the sample is done only with 3 individuals so could be doubts about its representativity of whole Calabria.

You have 2 different options for South Italy, in one of them I added Calabria, (Southern_Italian_Mainland) and this source is completed using the Sicilian sample, that is the mean between East and West Sicilian.

I think the result is quite complete, and even you have several options to choose in some of them to get better representative results.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly

I am but where do I buy it? I forgot the creator s email.

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eurogenesblog@gmail.com

raw data+12 $ payed by PayPal to the same email

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Did you check differences between the average of 10 non academic and 14 academic samples?

Is there any notable difefrence between both apart that how they were obtained?

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I can't do it right now. You should probably just use the 14 samples from Raveane et al and the 2 from Lazaridis et al (ITS2 and ITS4) and label it Campania academic samples.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18Gc...EaaTbNTr2/view

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Originally Posted by gixajo

eurogenesblog@gmail.com

raw data+12 $ payed by PayPal to the same email

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It works only with PayPal? :O

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Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly

It works only with PayPal? :O

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I don´t know if he accept another payment way, but probably you can go where he lives and give him the money in cash directly.

What is the problem with PayPal? If you have a credit/debit card you can get an account in 5 minuts.

I've checked it again and apparently Swiss Italian has many southern outliers. Better not to use it.

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/11...1/F1.large.jpg