Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

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Originally Posted by Bender1999

A Cetsan?(idk whether this is a tribe or whatever) Nogay from a Tatar/Nogay village/Ankara:

Gedrosia: 12.90 Pct
Siberian: 12.93 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 2.48 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 7.42 Pct
North_European: 16.89 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 2.48 Pct
East_Asian: 22.01 Pct
Caucasus: 22.88 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

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Cetsan is the name of the eyalet they belong to. Also known as Yedisan or Yedishkul. Origin of the name is a Nogai clan settled there, called "Yediler."

Borders are marked in yellow:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ine-Edisan.png

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Also this is not the right place but check out this guy with a possible* Hungarian surname, true Magyar remnant
Kit CG3234964, Y-DNA R-S660
1 92.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 7.1% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 2.75

*He shares a surname with a popular Hungarian guy, but idk if its originally or fully Hungarian.

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That guy has legit Amerindian ancestry, so he is not even from Europe. Check his Euro K13.

Circassian with no soutwest asian admixture. From Adyghea

Population
Gedrosia 19.18 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.27 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.54 Pct
North_European 20.15 Pct
South_Asian 0.55 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.10 Pct
East_Asian 0.76 Pct
Caucasus 49.64 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.08 Pct

Distance to: azamat
5.55898372 Ossetian
5.56717163 Circassian
6.25606905 Kumyks
7.36433296 Balkar
7.79883325 Ingush
8.23425771 Karachay
8.45566083 Chechen
11.10956345 Abkhazian
13.56082593 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.67122526 Georgian_Svan
14.08334122 Georgian_mixed
14.76914351 Qumuq
14.89948657 Georgian_Gurian
15.79035148 Lezgin
16.25509766 Turk_Ahiska
16.67810541 Avar
16.71385054 Georgian_Mingrelian
16.79990774 Lak
17.21925957 Tabasaran
17.41786439 Dargin
17.47845245 Georgian_Imereti
18.16350737 Udi_Azerbaijan
19.05929957 Turk_East
19.62532548 Azerbaijani_Turkey
19.73757331 Georgian_Turkey

Target: azamat
Distance: 4.4968% / 4.49676095 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 Ossetian
25.6 Georgian_Svan
9.8 Dargin
7.4 Kumyks
3.2 Lithuanian
0.2 Cambodians

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Originally Posted by Leto

That guy has legit Amerindian ancestry, so he is not even from Europe. Check his Euro K13.

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Oh yeah, I forgot that was a thing
I got carried away with dreams of the steppe...

Some woman, her last name is concentrated in North Ossetia-Alania. She also scores extremely high Med (12% West_Med on K13). Maybe just the V5 chip, no idea

Gedrosia 16.15 Pct
Siberian 5.62 Pct
Northwest_African 1.69 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.38 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.43 Pct
North_European 17.07 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.88 Pct
East_Asian 2.73 Pct
Caucasus 46.06 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Zalika
3.80884497 Karachay
4.52943705 Ossetian
4.68475186 Balkar
5.26867156 Circassian
6.61272259 Kumyks
7.47949865 Ingush
9.40444044 Chechen
11.91076404 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.78368883 Abkhazian
12.81605634 Qumuq

Target: Zalika
Distance: 2.1595% / 2.15954860 | ADC: 0.25x
75.2 Ossetian
17.8 Karachay
1.8 Sardinian
1.6 Dolgan
1.4 Algerian
1.2 Nogai
1.0 Greek_Izmir

Her match

Gedrosia 19.32 Pct
Siberian 5.37 Pct
Northwest_African 1.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.47 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.82 Pct
North_European 14.29 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.34 Pct
East_Asian 3.02 Pct
Caucasus 46.09 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Zalika_match
4.40336235 Ossetian
4.44977528 Circassian
5.17523912 Karachay
5.79956033 Kumyks
6.01565458 Ingush
6.05952968 Balkar
9.14430424 Chechen
9.75372237 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.14187148 Abkhazian
12.18100981 Georgian_mixed

Target: Zalika_match
Distance: 3.0399% / 3.03994038 | ADC: 0.5x
44.0 Ossetian
38.6 Circassian
9.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.2 Karachay
1.0 Yakut
0.8 Turk_Central_Black_Sea

Target: Zalika_match
Distance: 1.9862% / 1.98622009 | ADC: 0.25x
61.2 Circassian
13.6 Ingush
10.0 Ossetian
7.8 Georgian_Adjara
3.4 Yoruk
2.4 Yakut
0.6 Algerian
0.6 CDX30
0.4 Iranian

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Originally Posted by RatCat

Circassian with no soutwest asian admixture. From Adyghea

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How is that even possible? I mean I score 3% SW Asian which is above the average for my people though. Of course unless that's just faulty data. How much East Med and Red Sea does he get? I probably even had that kit. Sometimes I discard blatantly odd results and don't post 'em.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Two Iranians from Khorasan (most likely Khorasan Turks but cannot confirm yet, Persian speaking-identifying on FB, Shia, unfortunately no meaningfull matches to pinpoint ancestry)
mtdna: U7

Gedrosian: 22.87
Siberian: 6.32
Northwest_African: 0.90
Southeast_Asian: 2.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.69
North_European: 10.96
South_Asian: 5.72
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 8.00
East_Asian: 4.26
Caucasian: 31.70
SSA: 0.58

Distance to: akh
5.61900347 Turkmen_Iran
6.27023126 Iran_Khorasan
6.53344473 Turkmen
10.12269727 Azerbaijani
10.41952494 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.26707593 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.53578779 Iranian_Fars
11.54296322 Yoruk
11.98272507 Turk_South
12.12952184 Turk_Southeast
12.45430046 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.15139156 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.18535551 Turk_Anatolia
13.20118177 Turk_Southwest
13.68020833 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.74284541 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.81217941 Turk_Central_West
13.87089759 Kurd_Sorani
13.92233457 Iranian
14.05114230 Turk_Central_East
14.14036775 Turk_Northwest
14.24420233 Tajik_Herat
14.47623224 Turkmen_Iraq
14.50168266 Qumuq
14.67084524 Zaza

Target: akh
Distance: 2.5003% / 2.50034529 | ADC: 0.5x
54.2 Turkmen_Iran
25.0 Iran_Khorasan
13.8 Turk_South
5.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
1.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan


Gedrosian: 25.60
Siberian: 4.40
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 2.30
Atlantic_Med: 8.40
North_European: 8.88
South_Asian: 7.52
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 7.87
East_Asian: 3.49
Caucasian: 30.50
SSA: 1.05

Distance to: siamak
4.68470917 Iran_Khorasan
7.61663311 Turkmen_Iran
8.09769103 Turkmen
10.04148893 Iranian_Fars
11.65765843 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.66235396 Azerbaijani
11.89520912 Tajik_Herat
12.88476232 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.23317044 Parsi_India
13.28662109 Iranian
13.32384329 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.67525137 Kurd_Sorani
13.81271154 Turk_Southeast
13.82371151 Lur_Iran
14.02098784 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.21470717 Iran_Mazandaran
14.63990779 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.71647376 Turkmen_Iraq
14.79398526 Turk_South
14.80737316 Yoruk
15.03298374 Zaza
15.61635681 Tajik_Tajikistan
15.76973684 Iran_Bandari
15.81308003 Turk_Anatolia
16.03678584 Turk_Southwest

Target: siamak
Distance: 2.4062% / 2.40622155 | ADC: 0.25x
77.6 Iran_Khorasan
13.4 Turkmen
4.6 Sardinian
2.2 Iran_Bandari
1.2 Cambodians
1.0 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa

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Another relative: (unusual high Atlantic Med for Khorasan)

Gedrosian: 27.00
Siberian: 4.51
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.67
Atlantic_Med: 9.82
North_European: 8.86
South_Asian: 7.36
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 5.81
East_Asian: 3.74
Caucasian: 29.96
SSA: 1.60

Distance to: isa
6.43809755 Iran_Khorasan
8.57228674 Turkmen_Iran
8.71891048 Turkmen
11.57068710 Tajik_Herat
11.94162887 Iranian_Fars
13.41281850 Azerbaijani
13.43505117 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.36449790 Parsi_India
14.45034602 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.58620924 Iranian
14.88187488 Tajik_Tajikistan
14.94011379 Kurd_Kurmanji
15.24269989 Iran_Mazandaran
15.36323534 Lur_Iran
15.50041612 Talysh_Azerbaijan
15.54406961 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.57281606 Turk_Southeast
15.63200883 Kurd_Sorani
15.70474132 Yoruk
15.88660127 Yagnobi
16.01316958 Iran_Bandari
16.29177707 Turk_South
16.54230939 Zaza
16.66451919 Turkmen_Iraq
17.12227497 Turk_Anatolia

Target: isa
Distance: 3.7292% / 3.72916855 | ADC: 0.25x
57.6 Iran_Khorasan
20.8 Turkmen
10.4 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
6.6 Sardinian
4.4 Iranian

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Originally Posted by Leto

How is that even possible? I mean I score 3% SW Asian which is above the average for my people though. Of course unless that's just faulty data. How much East Med and Red Sea does he get? I probably even had that kit. Sometimes I discard blatantly odd results and don't post 'em.

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Population
North_Atlantic 9.51 Pct
Baltic 10.41 Pct
West_Med 5.47 Pct
West_Asian 48.88 Pct
East_Med 16.22 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.73 Pct
East_Asian 2.85 Pct
Siberian 1.82 Pct
Amerindian 0.44 Pct
Oceanian 1.66 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

His eurogenes k13 results

Don't know what this guy is. Maybe an actual Karakalpak? Or a Nogai?
His kit number is A339749

Gedrosia 10.89 Pct
Siberian 23.04 Pct
Northwest_African 0.09 Pct
Southeast_Asian 3.07 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.78 Pct
North_European 16.82 Pct
South_Asian 2.18 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.61 Pct
East_Asian 25.95 Pct
Caucasus 9.58 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Oljas
3.74825293 Karakalpak
8.67344222 Kazakh
12.44476597 Uzbeks
13.17026955 Kyrgyz
13.47931378 Uyghur
14.38606618 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
15.65116929 Hazara
16.71218717 Uzbek
17.11678708 Bashkir
19.23618985 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe

Target: Oljas
Distance: 2.8119% / 2.81185132 | ADC: 0.5x
95.8 Karakalpak
2.2 Bashkir
2.0 Spanish_Basque

Target: Oljas
Distance: 1.5254% / 1.52536984 | ADC: 0.25x
87.2 Karakalpak
6.2 Altai
4.2 Spanish_Basque
1.6 Bashkir
0.8 Selkup

Using @Amon's Nogai_Astrakhan average
Nogai_Astrakhan,10.43,22.12,0.04,3.15,7.04,19.16,2 .67,0.03,1.41,23.91,10.02,0

Target: Oljas
Distance: 2.2955% / 2.29551147 | ADC: 0.5x
66.2 Nogai_Astrakhan
21.0 Karakalpak
12.8 Kazakh

Target: Oljas
Distance: 1.4242% / 1.42422621 | ADC: 0.25x
55.8 Nogai_Astrakhan
21.4 Karakalpak
13.4 Kazakh
4.0 Altai
3.4 Hazara
2.0 Spanish_Basque

Looks pretty much Early Turkic to me. I refuse to believe they were on average more European than that. Some elite Khazars and Avars for example were even more Mongoloid than that.

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Kazakh

Gedrosia 7.24 Pct
Siberian 24.01 Pct
Northwest_African 0.54 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.24 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.49 Pct
North_European 16.35 Pct
South_Asian 0.75 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.99 Pct
East_Asian 35.45 Pct
Caucasus 7.93 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Nurlan
4.78464210 Kazakh
6.86538418 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
6.88994920 Kyrgyz
9.81378622 Karakalpak
13.17605024 Nogai_Astrakhan
16.11767043 Uyghur
17.49395324 Kalmyk
18.66445552 Hazara
19.31992495 Mongol
19.36625416 Uzbeks

Target: Nurlan
Distance: 3.0422% / 3.04216002 | ADC: 0.25x
90.6 Kazakh
4.2 Korean
3.2 Lithuanian
2.0 Daur

Kurd from Zakho/Iraq:

Gedrosia: 23.43 Pct
Siberian: 0.21 Pct
Northwest_African: 1.68 Pct
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 8.12 Pct
North_European: 5.03 Pct
South_Asian: 3.04 Pct
East_African: 0.67 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 15.80 Pct
East_Asian: 0.68 Pct
Caucasus: 41.33 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -