Slovene DNA Results

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

https://i.imgur.com/jTC5Gah.png

are you using all of these averages?

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Serb_CentralCroatia,24.83,30.66,16.70,9.10,15.19,1.43,0.55,0.29,0.36,0.46,0.31,0.04,0.08 Serb_NorthEastBosnia,25.49,30.63,16.30,8.40,14.66,1.78,0.54,0.29,0.95,0.55,0.34,0.06,0.01 Serb_CentralSerbia,24.59,29.55,17.43,8.40,16.48,1.44,0.53,0.23,0.72,0.30,0.31,0.00,0.02 Serb_Dalmatia,25.69,28.77,16.89,9.22,15.58,1.30,0.60,0.31,0.63,0.45,0.41,0.10,0.06 Serb_EastSerbia,23.79,29.45,16.91,8.77,16.35,2.00,0.59,0.10,1.00,0.71,0.32,0.00,0.00 Serb_Herzegovina,25.61,27.75,17.32,8.27,16.79,1.96,0.27,0.12,0.57,0.52,0.64,0.13,0.05 Serb_KosovoMetohija,25.02,26.73,17.99,8.89,17.80,1.57,0.22,0.17,0.54,0.52,0.25,0.14,0.16 Serb_BosanskaKrajina,24.77,30.01,16.92,9.30,14.88,1.51,0.72,0.37,0.42,0.37,0.58,0.01,0.13 Serb_Lika,25.15,29.65,16.89,8.49,15.88,1.59,0.45,0.18,0.68,0.56,0.31,0.13,0.04 Serb_SoutheastSerbia,23.75,28.51,17.01,9.38,16.94,2.13,0.43,0.34,0.61,0.40,0.26,0.15,0.11 Serb_SouthwestSerbia,26.38,28.39,16.97,9.07,15.59,1.51,0.47,0.18,0.57,0.31,0.21,0.20,0.14 Serb_Vojvodina,24.78,27.96,17.42,9.44,16.03,1.69,0.72,0.40,0.17,0.75,0.47,0.06,0.12 Serb_WestSerbia,25.67,30.22,16.56,8.28,15.69,1.17,0.61,0.37,0.61,0.39,0.35,0.00,0.08 Vlach_Serbia,22.77,27.08,19.09,10.03,16.82,1.28,0.34,1.25,0.36,0.49,0.47,0.00,0.17 Montenegro_Old_Herzegovina,25.98,27.45,17.63,8.87,15.99,1.31,0.38,0.43,0.48,1.15,0.23,0.00,0.13 Montenegro_SouthEast,22.76,25.94,19.54,9.88,17.90,1.79,0.60,0.25,0.67,0.28,0.30,0.06,0.03

there is an average for the northwestern half of Montenegro (Old herzegovina) (if you're not already using it). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Herzegovina
you can split the western half of Serbia into "West" and "Southwest" ("Podrinje and Posavina" and "Raška" on this map: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geogra...:Serbia022.png)

also the Serbs from Doboj region are part of the Northeast, not Krajina (they are very similar, but still)

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Originally Posted by MCMXCV

ME

K13
1 Baltic 33.29
2 North_Atlantic 31.11
3 West_Med 15.87
4 West_Asian 8.49
5 East_Med 6.63
6 Red_Sea 2.33
7 Siberian 1.61
8 Amerindian 0.44
9 South_Asian 0.24

K15
1 North_Sea 26.6
2 Baltic 19.44
3 Atlantic 13.95
4 West_Med 13.86
5 Eastern_Euro 13.29
6 West_Asian 6.81
7 East_Med 3.47
8 Red_Sea 1.49
9 Siberian 0.97
10 Amerindian 0.11
11 South_Asian 0.0

Code:

MCMXCV_k13,31.11,33.29,15.87,8.49,6.63,2.33,0.24,0,1.61,0.44,0,0,0

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MCMXCV_k15,26.6,13.95,19.44,13.29,13.86,6.81,3.47,1.49,0,0,0.97,0.11,0,0,0

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Smaller regions Eurogenes K13: Target: MCMXCV_k13 Distance: 323.8845% / 3.23884459 | ADC: 0.5x 55.2 Austrian_Styria 18.8 Croat_Northwest 14.2 Ukrainian_Galicia 11.8 Csángó-Ceangău Distance to: MCMXCV_k13 4.17530837 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 4.26404737 Croat_Northwest 4.40591648 Slovene 4.48364807 Croat_GorskiKotar 4.53137948 Austrian_Styria 4.96553119 Hungarian_Alföld 5.03074547 Austrian_Carinthia 5.23708889 Croat_Central 5.72265673 Hungarian_North 5.82912515 Slovak 6.15412057 German_County_Glatz 6.22341546 German_Lower_Silesia 6.83617583 Lemko_Poland 6.90506336 Croat_Kvarner 7.11142039 Csángó-Ceangău 7.27578174 Czech 7.45516599 Croat_Lika 7.79901917 Bosniak_Northeast 8.04129965 Bosniak_Central 8.04585608 Bosniak_Krajina_East 8.12213642 Ukrainian_Carpathians 8.37300424 German_Thuringia_East 8.40701493 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.47321663 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely 8.50105288 Croat_Istria Larger regions Eurogenes K13: Target: MCMXCV_k13 Distance: 309.9751% / 3.09975140 | ADC: 0.5x 65.8 Austrian_Styria 21.4 Ukrainian_Galicia 12.8 Csángó-Ceangău Distance to: MCMXCV_k13 4.40591648 Slovene 4.53137948 Austrian_Styria 4.64014008 Croat_Northern 4.69075687 Hungarian 5.03074547 Austrian_Carinthia 5.72265673 Hungarian_North 5.82912515 Slovak 6.59812094 Croat 6.83617583 Lemko_Poland 7.11142039 Csángó-Ceangău 7.27578174 Czech 8.12213642 Ukrainian_Carpathians 8.40701493 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.43292950 Croat_Southern 8.47321663 Hungarian_Transylvania 8.89618458 Austrian 8.98943825 German_Southeast 9.56154276 Moldovan_North 9.72730692 Bosniak 9.95591282 Romanian_North 10.43217619 Polish_South 10.74522685 Sorb 11.00389817 Austrian_Lower_Austria 11.14894614 Moldovan_Central 11.15422790 Polish_Subcarpathia Eurogenes K15 Updated: Target: MCMXCV_k15 Distance: 547.1387% / 5.47138706 | ADC: 0.5x 68.4 Croat_Bosnia 30.8 East_German 0.8 Polish_Masuria Distance to: MCMXCV_k15 6.63917069 Croat_Bosnia 7.22724014 Hungarian 8.03821891 Slovak 8.52351183 Slovenian 8.88379986 East_German 9.08004956 Austria-Burgenland 9.11392341 Czech 10.09959900 Moldavian 10.17111105 Kaykavian_Croatian 10.82974146 Croatian 11.69974011 Serbian_Bosnia 11.78470195 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.10190960 Bosnian 12.40889600 Sorb_Lusatia 12.77369954 Austrian 12.98643812 Szekely 13.02688374 South_Polish 13.08110469 Bosniak 13.22866206 Serbian 13.42485754 Polish_Masuria 13.64641345 Romania_Nw 13.86654247 Romania_Ne 14.01860549 Austria-Tyrol 14.34660459 Montenegrin 14.53923657 French_Alsace

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

are you using all of these averages?

Code:

Serb_CentralCroatia,24.83,30.66,16.70,9.10,15.19,1.43,0.55,0.29,0.36,0.46,0.31,0.04,0.08 Serb_NorthEastBosnia,25.49,30.63,16.30,8.40,14.66,1.78,0.54,0.29,0.95,0.55,0.34,0.06,0.01 Serb_CentralSerbia,24.59,29.55,17.43,8.40,16.48,1.44,0.53,0.23,0.72,0.30,0.31,0.00,0.02 Serb_Dalmatia,25.69,28.77,16.89,9.22,15.58,1.30,0.60,0.31,0.63,0.45,0.41,0.10,0.06 Serb_EastSerbia,23.79,29.45,16.91,8.77,16.35,2.00,0.59,0.10,1.00,0.71,0.32,0.00,0.00 Serb_Herzegovina,25.61,27.75,17.32,8.27,16.79,1.96,0.27,0.12,0.57,0.52,0.64,0.13,0.05 Serb_KosovoMetohija,25.02,26.73,17.99,8.89,17.80,1.57,0.22,0.17,0.54,0.52,0.25,0.14,0.16 Serb_BosanskaKrajina,24.77,30.01,16.92,9.30,14.88,1.51,0.72,0.37,0.42,0.37,0.58,0.01,0.13 Serb_Lika,25.15,29.65,16.89,8.49,15.88,1.59,0.45,0.18,0.68,0.56,0.31,0.13,0.04 Serb_SoutheastSerbia,23.75,28.51,17.01,9.38,16.94,2.13,0.43,0.34,0.61,0.40,0.26,0.15,0.11 Serb_SouthwestSerbia,26.38,28.39,16.97,9.07,15.59,1.51,0.47,0.18,0.57,0.31,0.21,0.20,0.14 Serb_Vojvodina,24.78,27.96,17.42,9.44,16.03,1.69,0.72,0.40,0.17,0.75,0.47,0.06,0.12 Serb_WestSerbia,25.67,30.22,16.56,8.28,15.69,1.17,0.61,0.37,0.61,0.39,0.35,0.00,0.08 Vlach_Serbia,22.77,27.08,19.09,10.03,16.82,1.28,0.34,1.25,0.36,0.49,0.47,0.00,0.17 Montenegro_Old_Herzegovina,25.98,27.45,17.63,8.87,15.99,1.31,0.38,0.43,0.48,1.15,0.23,0.00,0.13 Montenegro_SouthEast,22.76,25.94,19.54,9.88,17.90,1.79,0.60,0.25,0.67,0.28,0.30,0.06,0.03

there is an average for the northwestern half of Montenegro (Old herzegovina) (if you're not already using it). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Herzegovina
you can split the western half of Serbia into "West" and "Southwest" ("Podrinje and Posavina" and "Raška" on this map: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geogra...:Serbia022.png)

also the Serbs from Doboj region are part of the Northeast, not Krajina (they are very similar, but still)

Here:

https://i.imgur.com/ToRFLo9.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph2ter

https://i.imgur.com/jTC5Gah.png

Sincere thanks, ph2ter!

I’m surprised how many more red regions I have compared to my tested family members. The whole Hungary really stands out, аs well as the highlighted regions of northern Croatia and the Hmeljnicjka oblastj in Ukraine.

Also, what does the first map posted here (titled MCMXCV_K13) show?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCMXCV

Sincere thanks, ph2ter!

I’m surprised how many more red regions I have compared to my tested family members. The whole Hungary really stands out, аs well as the highlighted regions of northern Croatia and the Hmeljnicjka oblastj in Ukraine.

Also, what does the first map posted here (titled MCMXCV_K13) show?

Some of your other kits for which I thought that it was yours.

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Originally Posted by Mr.G

Code:

MCMXCV_k13,31.11,33.29,15.87,8.49,6.63,2.33,0.24,0,1.61,0.44,0,0,0

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MCMXCV_k15,26.6,13.95,19.44,13.29,13.86,6.81,3.47,1.49,0,0,0.97,0.11,0,0,0

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Smaller regions Eurogenes K13: Target: MCMXCV_k13 Distance: 323.8845% / 3.23884459 | ADC: 0.5x 55.2 Austrian_Styria 18.8 Croat_Northwest 14.2 Ukrainian_Galicia 11.8 Csángó-Ceangău Distance to: MCMXCV_k13 4.17530837 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 4.26404737 Croat_Northwest 4.40591648 Slovene 4.48364807 Croat_GorskiKotar 4.53137948 Austrian_Styria 4.96553119 Hungarian_Alföld 5.03074547 Austrian_Carinthia 5.23708889 Croat_Central 5.72265673 Hungarian_North 5.82912515 Slovak 6.15412057 German_County_Glatz 6.22341546 German_Lower_Silesia 6.83617583 Lemko_Poland 6.90506336 Croat_Kvarner 7.11142039 Csángó-Ceangău 7.27578174 Czech 7.45516599 Croat_Lika 7.79901917 Bosniak_Northeast 8.04129965 Bosniak_Central 8.04585608 Bosniak_Krajina_East 8.12213642 Ukrainian_Carpathians 8.37300424 German_Thuringia_East 8.40701493 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.47321663 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely 8.50105288 Croat_Istria Larger regions Eurogenes K13: Target: MCMXCV_k13 Distance: 309.9751% / 3.09975140 | ADC: 0.5x 65.8 Austrian_Styria 21.4 Ukrainian_Galicia 12.8 Csángó-Ceangău Distance to: MCMXCV_k13 4.40591648 Slovene 4.53137948 Austrian_Styria 4.64014008 Croat_Northern 4.69075687 Hungarian 5.03074547 Austrian_Carinthia 5.72265673 Hungarian_North 5.82912515 Slovak 6.59812094 Croat 6.83617583 Lemko_Poland 7.11142039 Csángó-Ceangău 7.27578174 Czech 8.12213642 Ukrainian_Carpathians 8.40701493 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.43292950 Croat_Southern 8.47321663 Hungarian_Transylvania 8.89618458 Austrian 8.98943825 German_Southeast 9.56154276 Moldovan_North 9.72730692 Bosniak 9.95591282 Romanian_North 10.43217619 Polish_South 10.74522685 Sorb 11.00389817 Austrian_Lower_Austria 11.14894614 Moldovan_Central 11.15422790 Polish_Subcarpathia Eurogenes K15 Updated: Target: MCMXCV_k15 Distance: 547.1387% / 5.47138706 | ADC: 0.5x 68.4 Croat_Bosnia 30.8 East_German 0.8 Polish_Masuria Distance to: MCMXCV_k15 6.63917069 Croat_Bosnia 7.22724014 Hungarian 8.03821891 Slovak 8.52351183 Slovenian 8.88379986 East_German 9.08004956 Austria-Burgenland 9.11392341 Czech 10.09959900 Moldavian 10.17111105 Kaykavian_Croatian 10.82974146 Croatian 11.69974011 Serbian_Bosnia 11.78470195 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.10190960 Bosnian 12.40889600 Sorb_Lusatia 12.77369954 Austrian 12.98643812 Szekely 13.02688374 South_Polish 13.08110469 Bosniak 13.22866206 Serbian 13.42485754 Polish_Masuria 13.64641345 Romania_Nw 13.86654247 Romania_Ne 14.01860549 Austria-Tyrol 14.34660459 Montenegrin 14.53923657 French_Alsace

I always enjoy seeing these distance estimates, so thanks for these numbers! Why would you say there’s a difference between K13 and K17, with Croat_Bosnia being on the top in the latter?
From what I understand, all these estimates show the genetic similarity to the listed populations, but not necessarily the origin of my ancestors? Or is it way more distanced ancestors? What I’m trying to say is that I can quite confidently state that at least ¾ of my ancestors can be traced back to at least mid-18th century and were all born within present-day Slovenia, and this would go against it. I certainly wouldn’t expect 100% Slovene; I’m just trying to understand.
Can I, for example, expect to find an ancestor who was born in Galicia or comes from an area where Csángós live, when I go further back, or would it be before there’re any records?

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Originally Posted by MCMXCV

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Great collection of tests!

Did you connect all tested individuals in their parent-child relation (resulting in getting phased against one or two parents and improving the Ancestry Composition of all involved)?

Maybe also interesting: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...dMe-Change-Log!

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Originally Posted by MCMXCV

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How many % DNA do you have in common with your 4 grandparents (see matching list)? Just curious for the spread (deviation from 25%:25%:25%:25%).

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Originally Posted by rothaer

How many % DNA do you have in common with your 4 grandparents (see matching list)? Just curious for the spread (deviation from 25%:25%:25%:25%).

28.19% : 21.81% : 22.02% : 27.98%

It’s Grandparent 1 : untested parent of Parent : Grandparent 2 : other untested grandparent. Doesn’t seem like a significant deviation, although I’m not sure how common that is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothaer

Great collection of tests!

Did you connect all tested individuals in their parent-child relation (resulting in getting phased against one or two parents and improving the Ancestry Composition of all involved)?

Maybe also interesting: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...dMe-Change-Log!

I only saw this after the above reply.

Parent phased against Grandparent 1 (I also saw the estimates prior to that), and I phased against my parent when getting my results. Grandparent 2 is from my untested parent, so there isn’t a connection by phasing, only the usual one.

And thanks for the link. I saw that post, but since tests have been made just recently and there hasn’t been an update, I didn’t think it’s worth sharing. It’s only the initial date and phasing.