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01-02-2025, 01:53 AM
ScandinavianCelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asega

Gibraltar as well.

I think you might be getting such high Yamnaya is lack of appropriate HG samples for you, personally. If you add in Karelia and Latvia HG I imagine your Yamnaya would drop if you have that much Finnish East.

Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG:I0061,0.125205,0.034528,0.137272 ,0.204137,-0.015695,0.057451,-0.026791,-0.03046,-0.01084,-0.090571,0.025982,-0.009591,0.022745,-0.048581,0.019679,0.016309,-0.022426,0.0019,-0.006913,0.017258,-0.004617,0.011747,0.007025,-0.020485,-0.008502
Russia_Karelia_HG:I0211,0.126344,0.033512,0.126335 ,0.220933,0.002462,0.054941,-0.012691,-0.011999,0.00859,-0.086015,0.007632,-0.030723,0.047571,-0.017616,0.014386,0.04097,-0.018515,0.001774,-0.005908,0.002376,-0.012977,0.014096,0.00949,-0.027233,-0.005868

If I add these 4 here above my result is 56.8% Dairy-lover:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.4814% / 0.02481354
35.6 Gibraltar_EN
18.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
17.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
16.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
7.6 Latvia_HG.SG
4.0 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
0.8 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya

Finnish_East should show more Barcin than Gibraltar, and more Latvia_HG:

Target: Finnish_East
Distance: 4.8403% / 0.04840337
28.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
21.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
18.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
10.6 Latvia_HG
8.2 Gibraltar_EN
01-02-2025, 01:59 AM
Asega

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

I think you might be getting such high Yamnaya is lack of appropriate HG samples for you, personally. If you add in Karelia and Latvia HG I imagine your Yamnaya would drop if you have that much Finnish East.

Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG:I0061,0.125205,0.034528,0.137272 ,0.204137,-0.015695,0.057451,-0.026791,-0.03046,-0.01084,-0.090571,0.025982,-0.009591,0.022745,-0.048581,0.019679,0.016309,-0.022426,0.0019,-0.006913,0.017258,-0.004617,0.011747,0.007025,-0.020485,-0.008502
Russia_Karelia_HG:I0211,0.126344,0.033512,0.126335 ,0.220933,0.002462,0.054941,-0.012691,-0.011999,0.00859,-0.086015,0.007632,-0.030723,0.047571,-0.017616,0.014386,0.04097,-0.018515,0.001774,-0.005908,0.002376,-0.012977,0.014096,0.00949,-0.027233,-0.005868

If I add these 4 here above my result is 56.8% Dairy-lover:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.4814% / 0.02481354
35.6 Gibraltar_EN
18.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
17.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
16.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
7.6 Latvia_HG.SG
4.0 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
0.8 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya

Finnish_East should show more Barcin than Gibraltar, and more Latvia_HG:

Target: Finnish_East
Distance: 4.8403% / 0.04840337
28.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
21.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
18.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
10.6 Latvia_HG
8.2 Gibraltar_EN

Drops to 59% dairy lover.
01-02-2025, 02:06 AM
ScandinavianCelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asega

Drops to 59% dairy lover.

This is the last one for now, based again on averages along with the NE HG:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

my result

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9848% / 0.02984776
52.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.8 Gibraltar_EN
4.8 Latvia_HG
4.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
2.6 Latvia_HG.SG

Your results are confusing so far. You should be lining up more NW.

https://i.postimg.cc/fTwV70PV/yamnaya2.jpg
01-02-2025, 02:11 AM
Asega

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

This is the last one for now, based again on averages along with the NE HG:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

my result

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9848% / 0.02984776
52.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.8 Gibraltar_EN
4.8 Latvia_HG
4.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
2.6 Latvia_HG.SG

Your results are confusing so far. You should be lining up more NW.

https://i.postimg.cc/fTwV70PV/yamnaya2.jpg

56.4%
01-02-2025, 02:23 AM
Vessna

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

try this, NO ADC: can you show me aggregate and not aggregate?

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18793,0.126344,0.089367,0.03 6581,0.099161,-0.013541,0.040718,0.007755,0.004154,-0.040291,-0.06032,-0.005196,0.002548,0.002527,-0.019542,0.020765,0.00358,-0.017602,-0.003167,0.003394,0.017759,-0.000624,-0.006677,0.010969,0.012773,0.001676
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794,0.120652,0.120848,0.04 2615,0.063308,0.003385,0.032909,0.01081,0.004615,-0.04295,-0.038999,0.005521,-0.007044,0.000149,-0.012524,0.022258,0.013392,-0.002086,-0.001647,0.001006,-0.001626,-0.007612,-0.014591,0.008627,0.006868,0.008382
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5117,0.120652,0.1 635,0.031678,-0.058463,0.076937,-0.023985,-0.00282,-0.006461,0.041109,0.071983,-0.003085,0.002098,-0.023934,-0.000963,-0.027823,0.023999,0.033769,0.007981,0.006662,-0.012506,-0.011729,0.014962,-0.009367,-0.003976,-0.001557
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5118,0.119514,0.1 66547,0.023004,-0.05491,0.070782,-0.02761,-0.00564,0.007154,0.049086,0.072894,0.002598,0.0179 84,-0.020515,-0.007707,-0.02728,0.018828,0.026729,0.00228,0.014078,-0.003502,0.00025,0.008408,-0.010599,-0.016388,-0.002155
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5119,0.120652,0.1 77718,0.027907,-0.059109,0.065243,-0.029841,-0.000235,-0.002077,0.033337,0.08474,0.003248,0.012739,-0.015461,0.012386,-0.032709,-0.004243,0.015776,-0.00076,0.011941,-0.005753,-0.008111,0.000371,-0.000493,-0.014219,0.00491
Kazakhstan_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:Damgaard2018Yamnaya_noUD G.SG,0.120652,0.081242,0.039975,0.10756,-0.020927,0.047411,-0.00282,-0.00923,-0.054608,-0.068339,-0.00682,-0.00045,-0.003122,-0.026699,0.036509,0.015248,0.004042,-0.005828,-0.011816,0.006128,-0.005865,-0.00136,0.008258,0.028317,-0.013771
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1001,0.118376,0.0842 89,0.037335,0.11402,-0.038776,0.040718,0.012926,-0.002769,-0.06013,-0.070708,0.003085,-0.002248,0.001784,-0.021607,0.03963,0.015513,0.002608,0.00152,-0.003017,0.004252,-0.003119,0.007172,0.005793,0.018436,-0.010777
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1007,0.10927,0.07108 7,0.019233,0.112728,-0.043393,0.037092,-0.00282,-0.011307,-0.064834,-0.080731,-0.007957,-0.008093,-0.002825,-0.037571,0.03108,0.012066,-0.017602,-0.006208,-0.011816,0.002501,0.00861,0.005441,0.004067,0.0071 09,-0.002994
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:ZO2002,0.120652,0.0863 2,0.029415,0.099807,-0.028928,0.044344,0.00611,-0.003231,-0.055426,-0.069067,0.002273,-0.010041,-0.003419,-0.010322,0.029316,-0.006629,-0.022556,-0.002914,-0.008422,0.004752,-0.004243,0.009769,0.011955,0.012411,-0.003952
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.084289,0.04714,0.113697,-0.02462,0.027331,0.00799,0,-0.050517,-0.063965,0.00065,0.002548,0.001784,-0.025735,0.03393,0.006364,0.01004,-0.005954,-0.008422,0.02001,-0.013476,-0.005688,0.015652,0.023979,0.006347
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG,0. 103579,0.088351,0.061094,0.120803,-0.028928,0.044901,0.001175,-0.005769,-0.066879,-0.087838,-0.006008,3.00E-04,-0.001635,-0.024772,0.004886,0.012729,0.008605,0.005828,-0.001885,0.003627,-0.00287,-0.008408,0.027238,0.02892,-0.018801
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.09546,0.045632,0.118219,-0.031083,0.039324,0.00658,-0.004615,-0.042132,-0.072894,-0.002761,0.000899,-0.000743,-0.024634,0.034609,0.00411,-0.014342,0.001267,0.00905,0.007754,-0.005366,-0.000247,0.005793,0.017834,-0.006826
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE550_noUDG.SG,0. 125205,0.096475,0.04714,0.10756,-0.02462,0.04267,0.000705,-0.008307,-0.048063,-0.070525,0.003248,-0.003297,-0.008028,-0.017203,0.035559,0.019756,0.002217,-0.005068,0.001634,0.009254,0.000125,0.006925,0.021 815,0.01446,0.002994
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE552_noUDG.SG,0. 10927,0.089367,0.034318,0.107883,-0.036007,0.051874,0.00564,0.000462,-0.061766,-0.082917,0.001461,0.003297,-0.002527,-0.026424,0.031759,0.019358,0.00352,-0.003041,-0.000377,0.010505,-0.002246,-0.000124,0.004437,0.022774,-0.004191
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0231,0.124067,0.081242, 0.0445,0.114666,-0.034468,0.049364,-0.00188,-0.007846,-0.052972,-0.073441,0.003735,0.005845,0.00223,-0.023671,0.034202,0.024662,0.007302,0.000253,0.003 142,0.013131,-0.006988,0.004328,0.002218,0.011929,-0.000239
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0357,0.126344,0.091398, 0.038843,0.109821,-0.029544,0.040718,0.006345,-0.00923,-0.040905,-0.065969,-0.001299,-0.001798,-0.003717,-0.02257,0.03678,0.02148,0.001825,0.005321,-0.004651,0.003126,0.004118,0.00643,0.008874,0.0145 8,-0.005508
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370,0.124067,0.085304, 0.048271,0.113051,-0.027082,0.04267,0.00705,-0.001385,-0.064016,-0.069432,0.000487,-0.000899,0.004014,-0.029451,0.037595,0.013126,0.004563,-0.000633,-0.007039,0.015132,0.003369,-0.009892,0.009613,0.022533,-0.003113
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0429,0.132035,0.089367, 0.042615,0.13017,-0.02739,0.049364,0.007755,0.001846,-0.059925,-0.076175,0.001461,-0.007194,0.002973,-0.015689,0.040445,0.021347,0.004955,0,0.008547,0.0 2101,-0.003244,0.004328,0.022678,0.017111,-0.01437
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0438,0.124067,0.088351, 0.042615,0.118865,-0.029236,0.048527,0.00047,0.001154,-0.062789,-0.07745,0.001461,0.005695,-0.005946,-0.027387,0.033387,0.005038,0.007953,-0.007221,-0.003897,0.017759,-0.001373,0.000742,0.017255,0.023979,-0.005508
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439,0.127482,0.09546,0 .037712,0.113374,-0.018157,0.033467,0.0047,-0.005077,-0.053176,-0.057587,0.003085,-0.002098,-0.006541,-0.025598,0.038952,0.01432,-0.001434,-0.007095,-0.001257,0.018259,-0.001872,0.006801,0.016269,0.025546,-0.009819
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443,0.125205,0.091398, 0.039975,0.111436,-0.028005,0.046575,0.00564,-0.005769,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.002111,-0.00015,0.001041,-0.01968,0.042616,0.004773,-0.016428,0.00038,-0.001257,0.009379,0.003868,-0.002226,0.000986,0.01699,0.002275
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0444,0.126344,0.087336, 0.048271,0.116927,-0.02462,0.04769,0.00564,-0.000231,-0.049904,-0.072894,-0.000812,-3.00E-04,0.003122,-0.039498,0.030266,0.020684,0.000261,0.000887,-0.007039,0.00988,-0.014974,0.002968,0.011092,0.019039,0.003353
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I7489,0.122929,0.093429, 0.043369,0.11079,-0.032314,0.043786,0.0047,0,-0.057471,-0.082371,0.006496,0.004046,-0.012042,-0.008945,0.041123,0.016176,-0.008996,-0.005194,-0.001885,0.004877,-0.010981,-0.001113,0.012078,0.014219,-0.007784
Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446,0.127482,0.097491,0.0437 46,0.081719,-0.013541,0.039602,0.028671,0.002077,-0.036405,-0.066698,-0.000487,-0.001948,-0.007582,-0.017065,0.030673,0.029435,0.009518,-0.006208,-0.008296,0.014257,-0.011355,-0.014096,0.009983,0.032896,-0.010418
Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I2105,0.118376,0.090382,0.0403 52,0.110144,-0.032621,0.038766,0.006815,0.003461,-0.056244,-0.076175,-0.00065,0.00015,-0.002527,-0.022432,0.031759,0.013789,0.002477,-0.005321,-0.002891,0.017133,0.004492,0.003339,0.003451,0.020 967,0.002155
Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I3141_enhanced,0.121791,0.0924 13,0.053928,0.105299,-0.048317,0.041834,0.004465,0.011538,-0.058289,-0.080731,-0.001461,0.014387,0.013677,-0.010459,0.010993,0.003978,-0.018775,0.004814,0.005531,0.002626,-0.017469,0.017435,0.008627,0.019641,-0.011256
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113

Mine: 58.8% Dairy-lover

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
35.4 Gibraltar_EN
15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446
11.8 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG
10.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG
8.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439
6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794
5.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
4.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG
2.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443
0.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
35.4 Gibraltar_EN
26.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
11.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
5.8 France_Rochedane

What are you trying to figure out?

Target: husband_scaled
Distance: 5.2277% / 0.05227748
22.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
17.2 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
13.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
12.4 Latvia_HG.SG
11.8 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
10.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
9.6 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
2.6 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 5.6409% / 0.05640923
35.6 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
20.8 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
16.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
15.8 Latvia_HG.SG
6.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
5.2 Russia_Karelia_HG
01-02-2025, 02:45 AM
ScandinavianCelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vessna

What are you trying to figure out?

Target: husband_scaled
Distance: 5.2277% / 0.05227748
22.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
17.2 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
13.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
12.4 Latvia_HG.SG
11.8 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
10.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
9.6 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
2.6 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 5.6409% / 0.05640923
35.6 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
20.8 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
16.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
15.8 Latvia_HG.SG
6.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
5.2 Russia_Karelia_HG

I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

Try this one:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

mine

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Gibraltar_EN
3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.6 Latvia_HG
01-02-2025, 03:00 AM
Vessna

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

Try this one:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

mine

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Gibraltar_EN
3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.6 Latvia_HG

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 6.6341% / 0.06634091
35.0 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
34.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
15.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
14.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.8 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros

Target: husband_scaled
Distance: 5.5742% / 0.05574151
31.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
29.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
20.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
13.4 Latvia_HG.SG
3.0 Japan_HG_Jomon
2.2 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
0.6 Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea
01-02-2025, 03:01 AM
Asega

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

Try this one:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

mine

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Gibraltar_EN
3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.6 Latvia_HG

I'm curious to know what you think the variables are at stake.
01-02-2025, 03:07 AM
Vessna

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

Try this one:

Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

mine

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.0 Gibraltar_EN
3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
0.6 Latvia_HG

Makes no sense for you to have more Yamnaya than a Northern Russian.
01-02-2025, 03:15 AM
Asega

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vessna

Makes no sense for you to have more Yamnaya than a Northern Russian.

Balto-Slavs (including you) suffer from Balto-Slavic drift (genetic drift) on G25, which is why you latch onto Latvian HG's.

Davidski from Eurogenes has a blogpost explaining the phenomenon:

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2021/...st-vs.html?m=1

Quote:

Please note, Greg, that none of the Z scores reach significance, which means that these Northwest Europeans and Slavs are symmetrically related to Baltic_HG. They're also symmetrically related to other relevant ancient groups such as the Yamnaya steppe herders. This, of course, suggests that they harbor very similar levels of basically the same ancient genetic components.

Quote:

Now, Greg, if at least in terms of genetic ancestry, Latvians, Lithuanians, Belarusians, Poles and Ukrainians all qualify as Northeast Europeans, then what makes them different, as a group, from Northwest Europeans? Do you believe that the key factor is admixture from Baltic hunter-gatherers? Or is it genetic drift?

Of course, considering all of the f4-stats above, logic dictates that it must be relatively recent genetic drift.

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