2019 Apricity PCA

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03-26-2019, 07:18 PM
Dušan

x = 478
y = 210
03-26-2019, 07:22 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dušan

x = 478
y = 210

Getting cramped in there for TA Balkanites
https://i.ibb.co/87Q8ZF6/45925011494-771cc1ee16-o.png
03-26-2019, 08:01 PM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

Getting cramped in there for TA Balkanites
https://i.ibb.co/87Q8ZF6/45925011494-771cc1ee16-o.png

What are you and Longbowman doing all the way up there? Buncha galitzianer cossack rape babies.
03-26-2019, 08:14 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

What are you and Longbowman doing all the way up there? Buncha galitzianer cossack rape babies.

I can't tell if you're joking or trolling anymore.
03-26-2019, 08:18 PM
Vojnik

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

What are you and Longbowman doing all the way up there? Buncha galitzianer cossack rape babies.

All the way up there? They look to be quite south actually.
03-26-2019, 08:27 PM
Leto

@ModernMaskil, you're screwing the thing up - you're not using the version I posted. A few members are fucking absent from yours. Please get it right!
03-26-2019, 08:28 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vojnik

All the way up there? They look to be quite south actually.

In comparison to him. He's very eastern/southern shifted for an Ashkenazi but I can't tell if he actually purports to be Sadaam Hussein incarnate and thinks he's completely MENA (i.e trolling) or if he's only kidding.
03-26-2019, 08:29 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonewolfcypriot

It annoys me when people still use crap like MDLP and Harrapa world

They're not universally bad. For example for me K15 is not accurate and K13 is quite noisy as well.
03-26-2019, 08:30 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

@ModernMaskil, you're screwing the thing up - you're not using the version I posted. A few members are fucking absent from yours. Please get it right!

I'm mostly doing it for the sake of the other members so they can see where they are, not to further the so called Apricity PCA. If you tell me which members are absent I'll add them too. I simply had a version on my computer already so that's what I am using.
03-26-2019, 08:31 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

I'm mostly doing it for the sake of the other members so they can see where they are, not to further the so called Apricity PCA. If you tell me which members are absent I'll add them too. I simply had a version on my computer already so that's what I am using.

Everyone that has posted in the last 2-3 pages is absent.
03-26-2019, 08:32 PM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

I can't tell if you're joking or trolling anymore.

Can't understand a real Judean anymore: channel the remaining hebrew genes you have, habibi. I need you all ready. Third Temple being built under my direction in the Golan with the coming of Trump HaMoschiach.
03-26-2019, 08:35 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Everyone that has posted in the last 2-3 pages is absent.

Well I was the one who added everyone in the last 2 pages so not possible. The only ones I can think of are Chaos One who I will add and xripkan who I didn't add because Lemgrant used a different way to mark him down.
03-26-2019, 08:36 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

Can't understand a real Judean anymore: channel the remaining hebrew genes you have, habibi. I need you all ready. Third Temple being built under my direction in the Golan with the coming of Trump HaMoschiach.

Okay; the latter. Funny though.
03-26-2019, 08:40 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

Well I was the one who added everyone in the last 2 pages so not possible. The only ones I can think of are Chaos One who I will add and xripkan who I didn't add because Lemgrant used a different way to mark him down.

Ok, then please start using this one from now on

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

This is the most up-to-date version. I also added the new Slovak member Kostej

https://i.ibb.co/ZTVmWCp/45925011494-771cc1ee16-o.png
03-26-2019, 08:40 PM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

In comparison to him. He's very eastern/southern shifted for an Ashkenazi but I can't tell if he actually purports to be Sadaam Hussein incarnate and thinks he's completely MENA (i.e trolling) or if he's only kidding.

Tbf, I am mostly MENA.
03-26-2019, 08:41 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Ok, then please start using this one from now on

Well no because I added like 4 people since then. I'll add Chaos One, Xripkan and Kostej to mine if you give me Kostej's K15 or Coordinates.
03-26-2019, 08:42 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

Tbf, I am mostly MENA.

Yep, you are. Enjoy.
03-26-2019, 08:43 PM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

Yep, you are. Enjoy.

I'm the Nasi till a worthy challenger shows up.
03-26-2019, 08:44 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

Well no because I added like 4 people since then. I'll add Chaos One, Xripkan and Kostej to mine if you give me Kostej's K15 or Coordinates.

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.39
2 North_Sea 22.27
3 Eastern_Euro 18.05
4 Atlantic 12.09
5 West_Med 8.12
6 East_Med 5.88
7 West_Asian 5.42
8 Red_Sea 3.47
9 Amerindian 0.82
10 Oceanian 0.22
11 Sub-Saharan 0.21
12 Siberian 0.07
03-26-2019, 08:51 PM
Altaylardan Tunaya

I cluster with ossetians and abkhazians. but it doesn't make sense. I don't have any ancestry from these places. last time i checked my results, it was quite normal for anatolain turks. my results are definitely not atypical

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 25.32
2 East_Med 25.2
3 West_Med 7.15
4 North_Sea 6.87
5 South_Asian 6.72
6 Eastern_Euro 5.77
7 Siberian 5.42
8 Atlantic 4.98
9 Red_Sea 4.59
10 Southeast_Asian 4.1
11 Baltic 1.77
12 Amerindian 1.69
13 Sub-Saharan 0.29
14 Oceanian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.53
2 Azeri 8.88
3 Turkmen 10.8
4 Kurdish 13.69
5 Iranian 13.95
6 Armenian 16.16
7 Georgian_Jewish 16.33
8 Assyrian 16.58
9 Ashkenazi 17.05
10 Lebanese_Muslim 17.51
11 Kumyk 17.75
12 Central_Greek 18.03
13 Syrian 18.15
14 East_Sicilian 18.7
15 Iranian_Jewish 18.98
16 South_Italian 19.15
17 Italian_Abruzzo 19.33
18 Cyprian 19.45
19 Kurdish_Jewish 19.77
20 Afghan_Tadjik 19.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.3% Turkmen + 32.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.21
2 82.4% Turkish + 17.6% Afghan_Hazara @ 4.27
3 65.7% Turkmen + 34.3% Cyprian @ 4.34
4 82.9% Turkish + 17.1% Uzbeki @ 4.44
5 66.6% Turkmen + 33.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.53
6 65.5% Turkmen + 34.5% South_Italian @ 4.57
7 85% Turkish + 15% Uygur @ 4.63
8 82% Turkish + 18% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.65
9 85.2% Turkish + 14.8% Hazara @ 4.71
10 76.8% Turkish + 23.2% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.73
11 69.8% Turkmen + 30.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.73
12 50.7% Cyprian + 49.3% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.76
13 68.9% Turkmen + 31.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.79
14 69.2% Turkmen + 30.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.81
15 77% Turkish + 23% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 4.82
16 89.8% Turkish + 10.2% Shors @ 4.84
17 62.7% Turkish + 37.3% Turkmen @ 4.89
18 64.5% Turkmen + 35.5% Central_Greek @ 5.05
19 90.4% Turkish + 9.6% Hakas @ 5.05
20 65.4% Turkmen + 34.6% East_Sicilian @ 5.09
03-26-2019, 08:56 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice

I cluster with ossetians and abkhazians. but it doesn't make sense. I don't have any ancestry from these places. last time i checked my results, it was quite normal for anatolain turks. my results are definitely not atypical

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 25.32
2 East_Med 25.2
3 West_Med 7.15
4 North_Sea 6.87
5 South_Asian 6.72
6 Eastern_Euro 5.77
7 Siberian 5.42
8 Atlantic 4.98
9 Red_Sea 4.59
10 Southeast_Asian 4.1
11 Baltic 1.77
12 Amerindian 1.69
13 Sub-Saharan 0.29
14 Oceanian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.53
2 Azeri 8.88
3 Turkmen 10.8
4 Kurdish 13.69
5 Iranian 13.95
6 Armenian 16.16
7 Georgian_Jewish 16.33
8 Assyrian 16.58
9 Ashkenazi 17.05
10 Lebanese_Muslim 17.51
11 Kumyk 17.75
12 Central_Greek 18.03
13 Syrian 18.15
14 East_Sicilian 18.7
15 Iranian_Jewish 18.98
16 South_Italian 19.15
17 Italian_Abruzzo 19.33
18 Cyprian 19.45
19 Kurdish_Jewish 19.77
20 Afghan_Tadjik 19.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.3% Turkmen + 32.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.21
2 82.4% Turkish + 17.6% Afghan_Hazara @ 4.27
3 65.7% Turkmen + 34.3% Cyprian @ 4.34
4 82.9% Turkish + 17.1% Uzbeki @ 4.44
5 66.6% Turkmen + 33.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.53
6 65.5% Turkmen + 34.5% South_Italian @ 4.57
7 85% Turkish + 15% Uygur @ 4.63
8 82% Turkish + 18% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.65
9 85.2% Turkish + 14.8% Hazara @ 4.71
10 76.8% Turkish + 23.2% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.73
11 69.8% Turkmen + 30.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.73
12 50.7% Cyprian + 49.3% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.76
13 68.9% Turkmen + 31.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.79
14 69.2% Turkmen + 30.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.81
15 77% Turkish + 23% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 4.82
16 89.8% Turkish + 10.2% Shors @ 4.84
17 62.7% Turkish + 37.3% Turkmen @ 4.89
18 64.5% Turkmen + 35.5% Central_Greek @ 5.05
19 90.4% Turkish + 9.6% Hakas @ 5.05
20 65.4% Turkmen + 34.6% East_Sicilian @ 5.09

You have around 10% East Eurasian, probably on some calculators it would be even higher. But Ossetians do too, up to 10%.
03-26-2019, 09:01 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

I'm the Nasi till a worthy challenger shows up.

Of Ashkenazim or of Jews in general? Because I'm afraid to tell you there are a few million Jews who are more MENA than you.
03-26-2019, 09:12 PM
ModernMaskil

https://i.ibb.co/rGb6Twg/45925011494-771cc1ee16-o.png
03-26-2019, 09:17 PM
frankhammer

Add me please man.

Euro K15

Population
North_Sea 36.15
Atlantic 23.67
Baltic 10.55
Eastern_Euro 10.32
West_Med 12.50
West_Asian 2.68
East_Med 2.05
Red_Sea 1.20
South_Asian 0.83
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.05
Sub-Saharan -
03-26-2019, 09:21 PM
xripkan

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

https://i.ibb.co/rGb6Twg/45925011494-771cc1ee16-o.png

Could you change my place? These are my coordinates from V3 kit:
Abscisse (x-axis):
559
pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis):
364
pixel
03-26-2019, 09:26 PM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

Of Ashkenazim or of Jews in general? Because I'm afraid to tell you there are a few million Jews who are more MENA than you.

As much as I'm too good for Ashkenazim, I will begrudgingly accept my role as your eternal King and ambassador to the hummus world. As for non-Ashkenazis, it's interesting; they may be more MENA, but I'm likely more Judean than most of them are when you control for their Berber etc admixture.
03-26-2019, 10:05 PM
Lemgrant

+ xripkan, frankhammer and me

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7801/...2a9411ff_o.png

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.13
2 Eastern_Euro 20.87
3 North_Sea 20.16
4 Atlantic 16.31
5 West_Med 6.95
6 West_Asian 3.1
7 Amerindian 1.47
8 East_Med 1.46
9 South_Asian 0.68
10 Siberian 0.66
11 Red_Sea 0.1
12 Oceanian 0.09
13 Southeast_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 3.3
2 Ukrainian 3.84
3 South_Polish 3.93
4 Russian_Smolensk 4.24
5 Southwest_Russian 4.58
6 Estonian_Polish 4.69
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.25
8 Belorussian 5.27
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.3
10 Estonian 7.77
11 Kargopol_Russian 8.5
12 Lithuanian 8.54
13 Croatian 9.3
14 Erzya 11.05
15 East_Finnish 11.29
16 Moldavian 11.51
17 Finnish 11.89
18 Hungarian 12.04
19 Southwest_Finnish 12.5
20 Austrian 13.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.2% Ukrainian + 43.8% Estonian_Polish @ 1.9
2 53.7% Ukrainian + 46.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.34
3 83% Polish + 17% Erzya @ 2.46
4 56.6% South_Polish + 43.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.49
5 54.1% Estonian_Polish + 45.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.49
6 74.8% Estonian_Polish + 25.2% Hungarian @ 2.52
7 61.6% Ukrainian + 38.4% Belorussian @ 2.55
8 57% Ukrainian + 43% Southwest_Russian @ 2.58
9 95.9% Polish + 4.1% MA-1 @ 2.59
10 58.6% Polish + 41.4% Ukrainian @ 2.64
11 74.4% Estonian_Polish + 25.6% Moldavian @ 2.67
12 78.8% South_Polish + 21.2% Erzya @ 2.67
13 80.8% Polish + 19.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.68
14 73.8% South_Polish + 26.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.7
15 97.3% Polish + 2.7% West_Greenlander @ 2.72
16 66.4% Polish + 33.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.72
17 98.1% Polish + 1.9% North_Amerindian @ 2.77
18 97.7% Polish + 2.3% East_Greenlander @ 2.77
19 71.7% Polish + 28.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.79
20 94.2% Polish + 5.8% Chuvash @ 2.79

https://i.imgur.com/DA8HXFS.png
03-26-2019, 10:08 PM
Nurzat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

+ xripkan, frankhammer and me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aśvārohī

just northeast of „Moldavian” dot: x 519, y 209 (used yourdnaportal K15 fitted values)

would you add me whenever you've got the time to? no hurry. thanks. x 519, y 209
03-26-2019, 10:14 PM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aśvārohī

would you add me whenever you've got the time to? no hurry. thanks. x 519, y 209

+Aśvārohī
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7832/...3a00d637_o.png
03-26-2019, 10:54 PM
lonewolfcypriot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice

I cluster with ossetians and abkhazians. but it doesn't make sense. I don't have any ancestry from these places. last time i checked my results, it was quite normal for anatolain turks. my results are definitely not atypical

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 25.32
2 East_Med 25.2
3 West_Med 7.15
4 North_Sea 6.87
5 South_Asian 6.72
6 Eastern_Euro 5.77
7 Siberian 5.42
8 Atlantic 4.98
9 Red_Sea 4.59
10 Southeast_Asian 4.1
11 Baltic 1.77
12 Amerindian 1.69
13 Sub-Saharan 0.29
14 Oceanian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.53
2 Azeri 8.88
3 Turkmen 10.8
4 Kurdish 13.69
5 Iranian 13.95
6 Armenian 16.16
7 Georgian_Jewish 16.33
8 Assyrian 16.58
9 Ashkenazi 17.05
10 Lebanese_Muslim 17.51
11 Kumyk 17.75
12 Central_Greek 18.03
13 Syrian 18.15
14 East_Sicilian 18.7
15 Iranian_Jewish 18.98
16 South_Italian 19.15
17 Italian_Abruzzo 19.33
18 Cyprian 19.45
19 Kurdish_Jewish 19.77
20 Afghan_Tadjik 19.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.3% Turkmen + 32.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.21
2 82.4% Turkish + 17.6% Afghan_Hazara @ 4.27
3 65.7% Turkmen + 34.3% Cyprian @ 4.34
4 82.9% Turkish + 17.1% Uzbeki @ 4.44
5 66.6% Turkmen + 33.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.53
6 65.5% Turkmen + 34.5% South_Italian @ 4.57
7 85% Turkish + 15% Uygur @ 4.63
8 82% Turkish + 18% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.65
9 85.2% Turkish + 14.8% Hazara @ 4.71
10 76.8% Turkish + 23.2% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.73
11 69.8% Turkmen + 30.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.73
12 50.7% Cyprian + 49.3% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.76
13 68.9% Turkmen + 31.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.79
14 69.2% Turkmen + 30.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.81
15 77% Turkish + 23% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 4.82
16 89.8% Turkish + 10.2% Shors @ 4.84
17 62.7% Turkish + 37.3% Turkmen @ 4.89
18 64.5% Turkmen + 35.5% Central_Greek @ 5.05
19 90.4% Turkish + 9.6% Hakas @ 5.05
20 65.4% Turkmen + 34.6% East_Sicilian @ 5.09

Ice bey, the reason why you cluster near ossentians is not because you are atypical. it is because Eurogenes used a not very good Turkish sample with low EEA for the average. that is why you are more Eastern shifted.
03-27-2019, 02:45 AM
Lemgrant

Positions of Estonian_Polish, Southwest_Russian, Orcadian, Algerian_Jewish, Yemenite_Jewish, East_Sicilian, West_Sicilian:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7835/...09a03dfa_o.png
03-27-2019, 03:11 AM
FilhoV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

Positions of Estonian_Polish, Southwest_Russian, Orcadian, Algerian_Jewish, Yemenite_Jewish, East_Sicilian, West_Sicilian:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7835/...09a03dfa_o.png

Try Canary islanders
03-27-2019, 05:17 AM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

Positions of Estonian_Polish, Southwest_Russian, Orcadian, Algerian_Jewish, Yemenite_Jewish, East_Sicilian, West_Sicilian:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7835/...09a03dfa_o.png

Let's add Georgian_Jewish.
03-27-2019, 05:26 AM
Chaos One

So now the closest to me is Algerian Jewish. That's...random lol
03-27-2019, 05:38 AM
Pubiczar

X = 517
Y = 311

Thanks
03-27-2019, 05:43 AM
Vojnik

Quote:

Originally Posted by *****

X = 517
Y = 311

Thanks

Was just about to ask you to add yours.
03-27-2019, 05:53 AM
Pubiczar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vojnik

Was just about to ask you to add yours.

We need Crn Volk as well but it seems he is more into politics than this sort of stuff.
03-27-2019, 05:59 AM
Vojnik

Quote:

Originally Posted by *****

We need Crn Volk as well but it seems he is more into politics than this sort of stuff.

Yeah. He likes to bring up genetics in arguments, but doesn't care much about it. Would be good to add more Maco's to the plot.
03-27-2019, 06:26 AM
Vojnik

Quote:

Originally Posted by *****

X = 517
Y = 311

Thanks

That's you. I think i did it right. Can someone that has done more confirm this is right?
All i did was paste the photo on paint. Then i just moved the mouse to the place which showed the coordinates ***** gave.

http://i68.tinypic.com/291f191.png
03-27-2019, 10:15 AM
Faklon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markos

Abscisse (x-axis):
591
pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis):
390
pixel

Fully right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3eU9crcDdY

How do you cluster in relation to Cretans?

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