What's Your Y-DNA Haplogroup?

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Originally Posted by Siginulfo

To be confirmed soon. According to the low number of my family (~300), high frequency of light phenotypes, the noble origin, and the Germanic origin, it seems that here we will get I1.

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:picard2:

Ω1φ1α the y-dna of Olympian Gods :rolleyes:

I1-Z140

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Originally Posted by Shtrun

I1-Z140

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Z140 Seems to be Germanic, non-Bothnian subclade of I1. Are you from Varangian nobility?

Yay I can now add my dad'd Y-DNA to my profile in 23andme. Artek can I join your group too? :P

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Originally Posted by Ashina

Yay I can now add my dad'd Y-DNA to my profile in 23andme. Artek can I join your group too? :P

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Feel free to join my group, Ashina. You are a part of your father, without doubt. :)

Cool! Another R1b joined your group then.

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Originally Posted by Ashina

Cool! Another R1b joined your group then.

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Don't forget to post something about clade your father belongs to in sub-forum of the group.

Oh, it seems like Agrippa belong to the übermensch e1b1b HG:cool:

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Originally Posted by Ushtari

Oh, it seems like Agrippa belong to the übermensch e1b1b HG:cool:

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You were supposed to say "negroid", not ubermensch, weren't you?

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Originally Posted by Artek

Z140 Seems to be Germanic, non-Bothnian subclade of I1. Are you from Varangian nobility?

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My roots from the Ryazan Meshchera. Therefore my ancestors most likely Goths Ermanaric which grasped Meshchera.

R1b

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Originally Posted by Shtrun

My roots from the Ryazan Meshchera. Therefore my ancestors most likely Goths Ermanaric which grasped Meshchera.

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We are 5th cousins on 23andMe.

R1b12a breakdown>

M207-R>M173-R1>M343-R1b>P25-R1b1>L389>P297-R1b1a>
M-269-R1b1a2(European R1b is dominated by R-M269.)>
L-23 R1b1a2a>Z-2105*(L277-,L584-)

Hopefully Gen 2.0 will have some new snps.

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Originally Posted by Pallantides

We are 5th cousins on 23andMe.

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Perhaps this is a false match. Norway is too far away from my homeland.

R1a-M458

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Originally Posted by Silesian

R1b12a breakdown>

M207-R>M173-R1>M343-R1b>P25-R1b1>L389>P297-R1b1a>
M-269-R1b1a2(European R1b is dominated by R-M269.)>
L-23 R1b1a2a>Z-2105*(L277-,L584-)

Hopefully Gen 2.0 will have some new snps.

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I am r1b1a2a1 Z2105+:),

J2a4h*

i.e. j2w :D

I2b1

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Originally Posted by Shtrun

Perhaps this is a false match. Norway is too far away from my homeland.

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Could be a much older connection, 23andMe is not good with these predictions.

That's much more secure to say that he is related to the Varangians than to the Goths, which are still uncertain(probably they were kinda mixed group). We don't have an aDNA from Chernyakov and Wielbark cultures...

R-L21* Probably English or German in origin..late research has indicated it might be from South Western Germany..

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Originally Posted by Shtrun

My roots from the Ryazan Meshchera. Therefore my ancestors most likely Goths Ermanaric which grasped Meshchera.

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Originally Posted by Pallantides

We are 5th cousins on 23andMe.

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I suspect i also have him as my 4th-> Distant cousin via my uncle...

It said R1b1b2a on 23andme. Current designation is R1b1a2a or R1b-L23.
I do not know if that is a definite clade determination.

(I am still waiting for those damn Ftdna results and then I will know since I saw that for some people 23andme did not determine specific clade like on Ftdna)

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Originally Posted by Solin

It said R1b1b2a on 23andme. Current designation is R1b1a2a or R1b-L23.
I do not know if that is a definite clade determination.

(I am still waiting for those damn Ftdna results and then I will know since I saw that for some people 23andme did not determine specific clade like on Ftdna)

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Do you know how many markers they have taken into account? If only 25-37, you still have a chance to score R1b-U152 (that's the most likely clade for you, of course after R1b1a2a).
FTDNA research is deeper than 23andme

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Originally Posted by Artek

Do you know how many markers they have taken into account? If only 25-37, you still have a chance to score R1b-U152 (that's the most likely clade for you, of course after R1b1a2a).
FTDNA research is deeper than 23andme

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I really do not know how many.

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Originally Posted by Solin

It said R1b1b2a on 23andme. Current designation is R1b1a2a or R1b-L23...

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Are you sure you are not in R-Z2105 branch?

A croat R1b ? :p

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Originally Posted by Alex Delarge

A croat R1b ? :p

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There are even N1c Spaniards, so nothing surprises me at all ;D

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Originally Posted by Silesian

Are you sure you are not in R-Z2105 branch?

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I do not know if I am L23 or not and not to mention do I belong to that branch.
I think I could still be just L23.

P.S. It is the first time I hear of Z2105 designation so I am assuming you are thinking of L51/M412 branch

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Originally Posted by Solin

I do not know if I am L23 or not and not to mention do I belong to that branch.
I think I could still be just L23.

P.S. It is the first time I hear of Z2105 designation so I am assuming you are thinking of L51/M412 branch

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L23 splits into L51 and z2105.
Do you have a Croation surname Polish or Czech, ysearch number?

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b-YDNA/

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Originally Posted by Silesian

L23 splits into L51 and z2105.
Do you have a Croation surname Polish or Czech, ysearch number?

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b-YDNA/

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I have somewhat old Croatian surname.

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Originally Posted by Solin

I have somewhat old Croatian surname.

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I wonder if you will be the same as "Skoda" in Split Croatia? Can you pm me your str's, for example is your DYS-393, 12 or 13 and DYS 464 values for a,b,c,d?

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Originally Posted by Silesian

I wonder if you will be the same as "Skoda" in Split Croatia? Can you pm me your str's, for example is your DYS-393, 12 or 13 and DYS 464 values for a,b,c,d?

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Don't do this, he will rape you...
But seriously, if you know your Y-STR results you can post it here or PM it to me as well.

R1b.

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Originally Posted by Planeless Earhart

When I was 18 I had a YDNA hg test done by FTDNA. Way out o' left field came E1b1a. I had absolutely no matches in any African nation, though. None with any Africans in western countries, either. Five English matches, four French matches and one Spanish match. Still kind o' "meh" about it.

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Apparently, it's not E1b1a, but E1b1b. All these years... FTDNA B trollin'.

R1b-L48+ (or R1b1a2a1a1a4 to give it its long name). Found in England, Northern Germany, the Netherlands and among the Frisians.

I've ordered a 12 marker test from FTDNA while it is on offer (£25). Will then upgrade at a later date, to see what cluster i fall into...and to hopefully find any matches that will shed more light on my direct paternal line.

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Originally Posted by Albion

R1b-L48+ (or R1b1a2a1a1a4 to give it its long name). Found in England, Northern Germany, the Netherlands and among the Frisians.

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That's the typical Germanic R1b subclade.

I had my 37 markers done at FTDNA and it's shit, I discover no cousin ,I'm alone with weird value at DYS393=15 and DYS390=26