Iranian GEDmatch kits

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Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Do you know anything about these times? Unfortunately there is very little known about the times of the arrival of Iranic tribes into Iran. What happened to all the people like Kassites, Gutians, Elamites etc.. Any indication that they were largely assimilated?. I think the only thing that is known is that the Persians (who derived from the Median tribes) went south and sacked Elam. And Elam language remained important under the Persian rulers, so we can assume that most of them were assimilated. Gutians probably got assimilated by the Medes? Or were they early IAryan off-branches like the Mitanni?

Another thing what interests me. Werent the Aryans/Iranics nomadic/pastoralist people similar in culture to the Gutians who were descibed quite barbaric by Mesopotamian sources? So they basically leeched off the Sumer-Elamite suffistication in forming their empires?
So the Parthians remained the culture while Persians and Medes took over Mesopotamian influenced culture.
Some people remained Nomadic in Persian times and frequently attacked Persian and Median cities. Who were they?
There is way too much unknown about Iranian history unfortunately.

The Iranian history is quite similar to those of Anatolia actually. Just thousands of years earlier.

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Yea. Of all the punts that we've seen, all Iranians are related to each other, which prove that pre-iranics (Kassites, elamites, gutians) were all genetically the same who spoke different languages native to that region. Near-easterners weren't all jolly and full of rainbows. They seemed to be very conservative warrior-like people considering the relations they had with their neighbors.

Youtuber Shahrzad (wife of Bahador Alast) results, she is from Khorasan but also has Azeri roots.

Gedrosian: 25.80
Siberian: 3.66
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.56
Atlantic_Med: 6.64
North_European: 7.17
South_Asian 6.34
East_African 0.33
Southwest_Asian: 10.22
East_Asian: 3.68
Caucasian: 34.60
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Shahrzad
4.23733407 Iran_Khorasan
5.74679041 Iran_Central_East
6.06250773 Iranian_Fars
7.59808529 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.33019808 Azerbaijani
8.34991018 Iranian
8.82176286 Lur_Iran
8.92333458 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.03775415 Iranians
9.06607964 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.13684847 Kurd_Sorani
9.35996795 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.51934346 Turkmens
10.02561719 Kurd
10.12529506 Iran_Mazandaran
10.27807375 Turkmen_Iran
10.48508941 Zaza
10.49096278 Turkmen_Iraq
11.11370775 Turk_Southeast
11.56040657 Kurds
12.70037007 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.33140278 Turk_South
13.34892880 Parsi_India
14.04885049 Turk_Central_East
14.61592625 Turk_Central_Black_Sea

Target: Shahrzad
Distance: 1.2795% / 1.27945126 | ADC: 0.25x
61.2 Iran_Khorasan
17.6 Lur_Iran
12.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.2 Iranian
1.0 PANIYA
0.8 Yakut
0.2 Sardinian


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNA79RXKKg&t=11s

My father's PuntDNAL K13 (maybe I should make an own thread sometime?):


West_Asia 40.28
NE_Europe 10.11
Americas 0.00
Siberian 5.57
Oceania 0.27
South_Asia 7.73
NE_Asia 1.21
East_Africa 1.23
SE_Asia 1.21
SW_Europe 18.23
SW_Asia 14.15
West_Africa 0.13
South_Africa 0.00


Distance to: Father
7.82205855 Azerbaijan_Azeri
7.95076097 Iranian
8.91485278 Kurdish
9.46966736 Dagestan_Azeri
10.02170644 Ossetian
11.30462737 Turkish_Kayseri
12.02267025 Turkish_Aydin
12.28798600 Abkhasian
12.60534014 Turkish
12.64850189 Balkar
13.15007985 Kumyk
13.89080991 Adygei
16.71689564 Armenian
16.97747331 Assyrian
18.16768009 Tadjik

Target: Father
Distance: 1.3176% / 1.31759250 | ADC: 0.25x
70.0 Iranian
21.2 Turkish_Aydin
4.8 Tadjik
3.0 Nganasan


Turkish samples look off on this one

Here is my dodecad K12b although I am slightly semitic influenced

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.41
2 Gedrosia 27.49
3 Southwest_Asian 13.75
4 Atlantic_Med 8.12
5 South_Asian 5.04
6 North_European 4.5
7 Northwest_African 3.36
8 Siberian 1.68
9 East_African 0.64

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 4.75
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.48
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.85
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.48
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.71
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.89
7 Turks (Behar) 16.75
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.15
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.39
10 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.78
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.08
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.22
13 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.25
14 Lebanese (Behar) 19.76
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.8
16 Syrians (Behar) 21.13
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.58
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.95
19 Jordanians (Behar) 22.93
20 Druze (HGDP) 23.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% Iranians (Behar) + 12.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.49
2 93.2% Iranians (Behar) + 6.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 2.56
3 92.2% Iranians (Behar) + 7.8% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.62
4 87.5% Iranians (Behar) + 12.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.79
5 92.9% Iranians (Behar) + 7.1% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 2.83
6 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Moroccans (Behar) @ 2.86
7 88.8% Iranians (Behar) + 11.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.88
8 89% Iranians (Behar) + 11% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.92
9 88.6% Iranians (Behar) + 11.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.92
10 89% Iranians (Behar) + 11% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.02
11 90.7% Iranians (Behar) + 9.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.07
12 93.4% Iranians (Behar) + 6.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.08
13 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 3.12
14 93.8% Iranians (Behar) + 6.2% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 3.15
15 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 3.16
16 93.5% Iranians (Behar) + 6.5% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 3.18
17 91.8% Iranians (Behar) + 8.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.21
18 93.7% Iranians (Behar) + 6.3% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.22
19 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 3.22
20 91.6% Iranians (Behar) + 8.4% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 3.24

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Here is my dodecad K12b although I am slightly semitic influenced

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Can you post PuntDNAL 13 too?

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Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Can you post PuntDNAL 13 too?

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Here it is, seems like it has activated my Turkic genes :D

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 46.08
2 SW_Europe 18.9
3 SW_Asia 15.36
4 South_Asia 7.08
5 NE_Europe 6.12
6 Siberia 3.39
7 West_Africa 1.94
8 South_Africa 0.72
9 Oceania 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 4.57
2 Kurdish 5.42
3 Azerbaijan_Azeri 8.15
4 Abkhasian 9.96
5 Dagestan_Azeri 10.83
6 Ossetian 11.71
7 Armenian 12.46
8 Assyrian 12.74
9 Turkish_Kayseri 13.15
10 Turkish_Trabzon 14.87
11 Adygei 15.09
12 Turkish 15.32
13 Balkar 16.06
14 Turkish_Aydin 16.59
15 Lebanese_Muslim 16.6
16 Lebanese_Druze 16.9
17 Syrian 17.34
18 Kumyk 17.46
19 Lebanese_Christian 19.16
20 Chechen 19.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.5% Iranian + 2.5% Nganasan @ 3.81
2 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Yakut @ 3.9
3 97.4% Iranian + 2.6% Koryak @ 3.99
4 97.4% Iranian + 2.6% Chukchi @ 3.99
5 97.3% Iranian + 2.7% Dolgan @ 4.03
6 88.2% Iranian + 11.8% Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.16
7 97.7% Iranian + 2.3% Eskimo @ 4.16
8 97.4% Iranian + 2.6% Tuvinian @ 4.19
9 97.9% Iranian + 2.1% Oroqen @ 4.26
10 88.1% Iranian + 11.9% Assyrian @ 4.27
11 97.6% Iranian + 2.4% Mongolian @ 4.28
12 81.1% Iranian + 18.9% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 4.28
13 88% Iranian + 12% Armenian @ 4.28
14 97.5% Iranian + 2.5% Altaian @ 4.29
15 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Yoruba @ 4.34
16 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Esan @ 4.34
17 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Mende @ 4.34
18 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Igbo @ 4.35
19 98.5% Iranian + 1.5% Bantu_SW @ 4.35
20 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Hausa @ 4.35

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Here it is, seems like it has activated my Turkic genes :D

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ahle kodam shahr hasti ?

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Originally Posted by meson

ahle kodam shahr hasti ?

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Kermanshah (pedaram) + Borazjan (madaram)

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Kermanshah (pedaram) + Borazjan (madaram)

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Your bushehr side puts you a tad closer to semites but thats expected bro.

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Originally Posted by Babak

Your bushehr side puts you a tad closer to semites but thats expected bro.

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Yeah I wasn't surprised by it, although on 23andMe I get more matches in Fars rather than Bushehr