Are you happy with your haplogroups?

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Originally Posted by Opie

Yes, but they are predominantly G2a. What is surprising that their lands are within the birthplace of Yamnaya but only a tiny fraction of them have R-L23.

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If it's the real area of Yamnaya, then it was exactly on the border of historical Circassian land as I see it
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ja_kultura.png

Yes, my father is Russian and my maternal grandfather was Adyghe

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Originally Posted by The Sun King

If look highly upon genocide thats your own moral compass. I want nothing to do with it. I want no "blood" on my hands!

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I perceive Yamnaya as conquerors not genociders. If that was the case, Europe would be automosally 100% Yamnaya, but it is mostly ANF.

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Originally Posted by Opie

Chill, Yamnaya were not mindless killers.

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no they were premediated killers

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Originally Posted by Opie

Yes, but they are predominantly G2a. What is surprising that their lands are within the birthplace of Yamnaya but only a tiny fraction of them have R-L23.

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Unlike those G, J were daring, extreme and active who interacted with pastoralists and took their females as brides and made a huge genetic pool. See the genetics of the modern population of East Caucasus. Georgian and Circassian ancestors were passive who lived isolated and conservative life.

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Originally Posted by Rumata

If it's the real area of Yamnaya, then it was exactly on the border of historical Circassian land as I see it
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ja_kultura.png

Yes, my father is Russian and my maternal grandfather was Adyghe

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No surprise Yamnaya were half CHG. The contribution was automosal not in terms of haplogroups.

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Originally Posted by Opie

Source?

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You can never take a joke.

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Originally Posted by black hole

Unlike those G, J were daring, extreme and active who interacted with pastoralists and took their females as brides and made a huge genetic pool. See the genetics of the modern population of East Caucasus. Georgian and Circassian ancestors were passive who lived isolated and conservative life.

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Georgians literally have zero EHG. It's literally their mark. Azeris, Armenains etc. all have some EHG to some extent. Circassians have Yamnaya ancestry but a little less than Northeastern Caucasians. In Caucasus, Yamnaya peaks at Avars and Dargins iirc.

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Originally Posted by Isinimo

You can never take a joke.

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There was no implication it was a joke. Anyway, we should move on and stop judging the past based on our modern values.

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Originally Posted by black hole

Unlike those G, J were daring, extreme and active who interacted with pastoralists and took their females as brides and made a huge genetic pool. See the genetics of the modern population of East Caucasus. Georgian and Circassian ancestors were passive who lived isolated and conservative life.

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Idk. Before the war with RE Circassians owned the biggest and the best land in North Caucasus

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Originally Posted by Opie

Georgians literally have zero EHG. It's literally their mark. Azeris, Armenains etc. all have some EHG to some extent. Circassians have Yamnaya ancestry but a little less than Northeastern Caucasians. In Caucasus, Yamnaya peaks at Avars and Dargins iirc.

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Circassian lineage known as aristocrats with pride, they probably did not dare to do anything with foreigners back then, Georgians were isolated and they were more closer to Neolithic farmers (strong Georgian CHG + a significant amount of ANF). Northeast Caucasians are completely opposite in this case. High Yamnaya peak starts from Chechnya and ends in Southern Dagestan. Indo-European speakers like Ossetians and Armenians have this component at a low degree. Modern results show and prove.