Genética de españoles e hispanoamericanos

Code:Insular_Celt: 3DT16,0.126344,0.14319,0.065619,0.057 171,0.038469,0.021196,0.00141, -0.001154,0.008385,0.009659,0.003248,0.002997, -0.012785, -0.009358,0.014115,0.001061, -0.007953,0.003041,0.002011, -0.006753, 0.005865,0.005935, -0.001479,0.007953, -0.000479
romana: ITA_Rome_Imperial: RMPR43,0.112685,0.15436, -0.033941, -0.067507,0.001539, -0.025658,0.002115, -0.006692, -0.007976,0.029158,0.005034,0.009142, -0.014123,0.004542 , -0.020494,0.000663,0.017341,0.003294,0.003394, -0.002501, -0.010731,0.010881, -0.000493,0.008917, -0.001916
romana: ITA_Rome_Imperial: RMPR44,0.118376,0.165531, -0.026398, -0.072998,0.00677, -0.019522,0.00188, -0.006231, -0.003886,0.032438,0.005521,0.005545, -0.013379,0.000413, -0.013436, -0.00305,0.015255, -0.001647,0.000126, -0.004627,0,0.000247,0.001479,0.007471,0.000599
Insular_Celt: 6DT18,0.125205,0.142174,0.058454,0.05 0388,0.046162,0.021196,0.0047,0.008538, -0.000818,0.005103,0.000487,0.012589, -0.017393, -0.020368,0.023887,0.006762, -0.005346, -0.003041,0.012444,0.001, 0.007986,0.000866, -0.00419,0.013857, -0.003353
Insular_Celt: 6DT21,0.126344,0.12491,0.061471,0.047 804,0.027697,0.013945,0.005405,0.009923, -0.00225, -0.000911, -0.019487,0.012589, -0.011447, -0.007707,0.019951 , 0.006099, -0.008345, -0.003927,0.002765,0.003752,0.002246,0.001237,0.003 697,0.002289, -0.001317
Insular_Celt: 6DT22,0.125205,0.140143,0.061094,0.04 5866,0.038776,0.014223,0.004935,077, 0.00049730.00, 77.0000 0.004872,0.001349, -0.01115, -0.016928,0.016015,0.000796,0.000652,0.003927,0.006 159,0,0.003993,0.005441, -0.011462, -0.00012, -0.000359
Insular_Celt: 6DT23,0.126344,0.141159,0.060339,0.04 6512,0.036622,0.009482,0.005405,0.008077,0.00225,0 0.001458, -0.008607,0.006744, -0.016055, -0.007019,0.030944, -0.003845, -0.018906,0.004181, -0.003268 , 0.012506,0.004492, -0.004081, -0.010476,0.008917, -0.001916
Insular_Celt: 6DT3,0.132035,0.13405,0.058077,0.0507 11,0.033237,0.029005,0.008225,0.003461,0.001023, -0.004556, -0.005034, -0.005034, -0.005034, -0.005034, -0.0050.0 0.005918,0.028908, -0.011403, -0.023469,0.001774,0.003142,0.006378,0.010731,0.000 124, -0.002588,0.011086,0.002874
Insular_Celt: England_IA: I0156,0.132035,0.138112,0. 057699,0.053295,0.038776,0.017291,0.001645,0.003,0 .007976,0.00328, -0.00682,0.005845, -0.015609, -0.017478,0.025108,0.011403,0.001434, -0.005194, -0.000754,0.006503,0.00836, -0.00754,0.006503,0.00837 , 0.013496, -0.005029
Insular_Celt: England_IA: I0160,0.129758,0.136081,0. 059585,0.050388,0.03416,0.023427,0.002585,0.00923, 0.002045,0.003827, -0.007632,0.009741, -0.016204, -0.018992,0.019951, -0.006099, -0.015776,0.008995,0.007542,0.003126,0.004243.00401 , 00.004243.006, 60 -0.000479
germánica EU_MA: AED_106,0.125205,0.133034,0.064865,0.067184, 0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.002863, -0.009476, -0.006171,0.002548, -0.012042, -0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255, -0.006968, -0.015964 , 0.005503, -0.003244,0.012736, -0.017378,0.005422, -0.000239
Germánico EU_MA: AED_249,0.125205,0.126941,0.071653,0.04845,0 .043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003477, -0.01054, -0.01054, -0.01154, -0.01054, -0.01157, -0.01154 0.009663,0.003303,0.019679, -0.002784, -0.026598, -0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697, -0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
Germanic EU_MA: ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.0 48009,0.023148,0.014101, -0.000692,0.006136, -0.001822, -0.002436,0.003447, -0.008474, -0.012248,0.012486,0.008088, -0.0052.07, 15.00 0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771, -0.002395
Germanic EU_MA: ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0.061848,0.038114,0.0 36007,0.018686,0.00094, -0.002308, -0.006749, -0.011116, -0.002436, -0.002436, -0.002436, -0.002436, -0.002436, -0.002436 , -0.002202,0.017101,0.002652, -0.01695,0.006208,0, -5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303, -0.010538
Baltic_LVA_BA, 0.1305171,0.1268283,0.1001044,0.1110 769,0.04838,0,099944121944 , 0844, 014, 014, 0, 014, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 2, 7, 0, 0, 02, 02, 0, 02, 17, 01.02, 222, -0.01695, 0.006208,0, -5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303, -0.010538 . 0.000568, -0.0488596, -0.0003249, -0.0189164,0.0329201,0.0433512, -0.0168293,0.0013113,0.0021294, -0.0014498, -0.0003212,0.0077817, -0.0024957, -0.0051934,0.0092299, -25.022
RUS_Sunghir_MA, 0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.060078, 0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432, -0.017859,0.000487, -0.008093,0.014271,0.023809, -0.005834.02, -0.005834.002, -0.005834.002, -0.005834.002, -0.005834.028, -0.005834.02 , -0.005812,0.012695, -0.010724, -0.005868
Continental_celt: CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany A111,0.124067,0.151314,0.063356,0.026163,0.0437,0. 005857,0.001175,0.002308,0.020861,0.02442, -0.012342,0.00015, -0.01665, -0.003165,0.014658, -0.009546, -0.018254,0.003801,0.005908,0.001626,0.009858,0.006 059, -0.004437, -0.005904 -0.005269,


coords Scaled .


Podéis probar estas coordenadas

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-q1yEYU4QU...talSINGLE.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5BtVUPIut...ontinental.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-q-7YdPI1X...lGermanic.jpeg

Me gustaría ahora introducir a este grupo 3 coordenadas de íberos y 3 de vascones.

Sois (somos) el grupillo de genética más friki de todo este foro.

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Originally Posted by Duffmannn

Sois (somos) el grupillo de genética más friki de todo este foro.

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Pues a ver cuando te sacas unas pruebas hombre.

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Originally Posted by Gallop

Code:Insular_Celt: 3DT16,0.126344,0.14319,0.065619,0.057 171,0.038469,0.021196,0.00141, -0.001154,0.008385,0.009659,0.003248,0.002997, -0.012785, -0.009358,0.014115,0.001061, -0.007953,0.003041,0.002011, -0.006753, 0.005865,0.005935, -0.001479,0.007953, -0.000479
romana: ITA_Rome_Imperial: RMPR43,0.112685,0.15436, -0.033941, -0.067507,0.001539, -0.025658,0.002115, -0.006692, -0.007976,0.029158,0.005034,0.009142, -0.014123,0.004542 , -0.020494,0.000663,0.017341,0.003294,0.003394, -0.002501, -0.010731,0.010881, -0.000493,0.008917, -0.001916
romana: ITA_Rome_Imperial: RMPR44,0.118376,0.165531, -0.026398, -0.072998,0.00677, -0.019522,0.00188, -0.006231, -0.003886,0.032438,0.005521,0.005545, -0.013379,0.000413, -0.013436, -0.00305,0.015255, -0.001647,0.000126, -0.004627,0,0.000247,0.001479,0.007471,0.000599
Insular_Celt: 6DT18,0.125205,0.142174,0.058454,0.05 0388,0.046162,0.021196,0.0047,0.008538, -0.000818,0.005103,0.000487,0.012589, -0.017393, -0.020368,0.023887,0.006762, -0.005346, -0.003041,0.012444,0.001, 0.007986,0.000866, -0.00419,0.013857, -0.003353
Insular_Celt: 6DT21,0.126344,0.12491,0.061471,0.047 804,0.027697,0.013945,0.005405,0.009923, -0.00225, -0.000911, -0.019487,0.012589, -0.011447, -0.007707,0.019951 , 0.006099, -0.008345, -0.003927,0.002765,0.003752,0.002246,0.001237,0.003 697,0.002289, -0.001317
Insular_Celt: 6DT22,0.125205,0.140143,0.061094,0.04 5866,0.038776,0.014223,0.004935,077, 0.00049730.00, 77.0000 0.004872,0.001349, -0.01115, -0.016928,0.016015,0.000796,0.000652,0.003927,0.006 159,0,0.003993,0.005441, -0.011462, -0.00012, -0.000359
Insular_Celt: 6DT23,0.126344,0.141159,0.060339,0.04 6512,0.036622,0.009482,0.005405,0.008077,0.00225,0 0.001458, -0.008607,0.006744, -0.016055, -0.007019,0.030944, -0.003845, -0.018906,0.004181, -0.003268 , 0.012506,0.004492, -0.004081, -0.010476,0.008917, -0.001916
Insular_Celt: 6DT3,0.132035,0.13405,0.058077,0.0507 11,0.033237,0.029005,0.008225,0.003461,0.001023, -0.004556, -0.005034, -0.005034, -0.005034, -0.005034, -0.0050.0 0.005918,0.028908, -0.011403, -0.023469,0.001774,0.003142,0.006378,0.010731,0.000 124, -0.002588,0.011086,0.002874
Insular_Celt: England_IA: I0156,0.132035,0.138112,0. 057699,0.053295,0.038776,0.017291,0.001645,0.003,0 .007976,0.00328, -0.00682,0.005845, -0.015609, -0.017478,0.025108,0.011403,0.001434, -0.005194, -0.000754,0.006503,0.00836, -0.00754,0.006503,0.00837 , 0.013496, -0.005029
Insular_Celt: England_IA: I0160,0.129758,0.136081,0. 059585,0.050388,0.03416,0.023427,0.002585,0.00923, 0.002045,0.003827, -0.007632,0.009741, -0.016204, -0.018992,0.019951, -0.006099, -0.015776,0.008995,0.007542,0.003126,0.004243.00401 , 00.004243.006, 60 -0.000479
germánica EU_MA: AED_106,0.125205,0.133034,0.064865,0.067184, 0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.002863, -0.009476, -0.006171,0.002548, -0.012042, -0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255, -0.006968, -0.015964 , 0.005503, -0.003244,0.012736, -0.017378,0.005422, -0.000239
Germánico EU_MA: AED_249,0.125205,0.126941,0.071653,0.04845,0 .043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003477, -0.01054, -0.01054, -0.01154, -0.01054, -0.01157, -0.01154 0.009663,0.003303,0.019679, -0.002784, -0.026598, -0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697, -0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
Germanic EU_MA: ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.0 48009,0.023148,0.014101, -0.000692,0.006136, -0.001822, -0.002436,0.003447, -0.008474, -0.012248,0.012486,0.008088, -0.0052.07, 15.00 0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771, -0.002395
Germanic EU_MA: ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0.061848,0.038114,0.0 36007,0.018686,0.00094, -0.002308, -0.006749, -0.011116, -0.002436, -0.002436, -0.002436, -0.002436, -0.002436, -0.002436 , -0.002202,0.017101,0.002652, -0.01695,0.006208,0, -5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303, -0.010538
Baltic_LVA_BA, 0.1305171,0.1268283,0.1001044,0.1110 769,0.04838,0,099944121944 , 0844, 014, 014, 0, 014, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 2, 7, 0, 0, 02, 02, 0, 02, 17, 01.02, 222, -0.01695, 0.006208,0, -5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303, -0.010538 . 0.000568, -0.0488596, -0.0003249, -0.0189164,0.0329201,0.0433512, -0.0168293,0.0013113,0.0021294, -0.0014498, -0.0003212,0.0077817, -0.0024957, -0.0051934,0.0092299, -25.022
RUS_Sunghir_MA, 0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.060078, 0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432, -0.017859,0.000487, -0.008093,0.014271,0.023809, -0.005834.02, -0.005834.002, -0.005834.002, -0.005834.002, -0.005834.028, -0.005834.02 , -0.005812,0.012695, -0.010724, -0.005868
Continental_celt: CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany A111,0.124067,0.151314,0.063356,0.026163,0.0437,0. 005857,0.001175,0.002308,0.020861,0.02442, -0.012342,0.00015, -0.01665, -0.003165,0.014658, -0.009546, -0.018254,0.003801,0.005908,0.001626,0.009858,0.006 059, -0.004437, -0.005904 -0.005269,


coords Scaled .


Podéis probar estas coordenadas

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-q1yEYU4QU...talSINGLE.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5BtVUPIut...ontinental.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-q-7YdPI1X...lGermanic.jpeg

Me gustaría ahora introducir a este grupo 3 coordenadas de íberos y 3 de vascones.

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No funciona el codigo, algo malo tiene.

Son los oriundos del Norte de Africa realmente parecidos a nosotros? Hay alguna similitud?

Target: Moroccan_South
Distance: 1.5665% / 0.01566530
31.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
20.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
16.2 Gambian
15.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.2 Yoruba
3.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.2 Dinka
1.0 WHG
0.6 Levant_PPNB

Target: Moroccan_North
Distance: 1.6040% / 0.01603994
37.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
30.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
13.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
7.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.8 Yoruba
2.6 Levant_PPNB
2.4 WHG
1.6 Gambian
0.2 ETH_4500BP

Target: Moroccan_Jew
Distance: 2.1773% / 0.02177346
57.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
16.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
8.4 Levant_PPNB
8.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

Target: Moroccan
Distance: 1.7720% / 0.01772029
30.0 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
27.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
20.2 Levant_PPNB
14.0 Yoruba
7.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.2 Dinka
0.2 WHG

Target: Berber_Tunisia_Sen
Distance: 1.9809% / 0.01980882
32.6 Levant_PPNB
24.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
22.0 MAR_Iberomaurusian
8.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.6 Yoruba
2.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.0 Dinka

Target: Berber_Tunisia_Chen
Distance: 1.8268% / 0.01826800
38.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
35.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
14.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
6.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.6 Yoruba
1.8 Dinka
0.4 WHG

Target: Berber_MAR_TIZ
Distance: 1.9655% / 0.01965548
41.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian
24.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
18.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
7.8 Gambian
3.2 Yoruba
1.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.4 Dinka
1.2 WHG

Target: Berber_MAR_ERR
Distance: 2.1887% / 0.02188652
35.8 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
35.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
10.8 Yoruba
10.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
3.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.2 Dinka
1.0 WHG
0.4 Levant_PPNB

Target: Berber_Algeria
Distance: 1.2218% / 0.01221765
40.8 Yoruba
20.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
18.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
9.6 Levant_PPNB
6.2 Dinka
3.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.4 WHG

Los judios de Marruecos son los mas europeos en componentes, y los mas africanos, increiblemente, son los berberes de Algeria???

Necesito 3 vascos y 3 íberos para incluir en las coordenadas de arriba, pero no sé cuáles elegir y que mi inocencia de novato pudiera verse como una manipulación.

Interesante video de la genetica antigua de los españoles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqJbqqKv7dg

Para los españoles que hayais hecho 23andme, en Ancestry Composition ¿tenéis algún cromosoma que esté completamente (en su totalidad o casi totalidad) calificado como de una zona concreta ("italiano", "francés", "NW", sardo, british isles, etc? No sé si es lo normal pero yo tengo 3 cromosomas (el 100% de su longitud) calificados como NW, entiendo que será algo relativamente normal en bastantes españoles (porque mis medias en todas las calculadoras recuerdo que eran las típicas de los españoles) pero quiero confirmarlo porque me parece algo curioso). No me acuerdo bien pero estos 3 cromosomas eran siempre de la parte de arriba de cada par (es decir, interpreto que son todos o bien herencia de mi vía paterna o vía materna exclusivamente) y eran algo así como el cromosoma 12, el 14 o estaban relativamente juntos (ya lo miraré mejor).

Yo sólo tengo un 8% de NW, la mayoría "Broad European" y sin tener ningún antepasado foráneo en siglos, me parece poco lógico tener 3 cromosomas en su totalidad como NW. ¿Acaso en docenas de recombinaciones durante siglos, ¿no se habría "partido" e intercalado con otros orígenes? ¿Por qué se mantiene tan intacto después de tantos siglos de recombinaciones?

Mera curiosidad pero a ver si a los demás os pasa lo mismo.

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Originally Posted by Gota_type_

Para los españoles que hayais hecho 23andme, en Ancestry Composition ¿tenéis algún cromosoma que esté completamente (en su totalidad o casi totalidad) calificado como de una zona concreta ("italiano", "francés", "NW", sardo, british isles, etc? No sé si es lo normal pero yo tengo 3 cromosomas (el 100% de su longitud) calificados como NW, entiendo que será algo relativamente normal en bastantes españoles (porque mis medias en todas las calculadoras recuerdo que eran las típicas de los españoles) pero quiero confirmarlo porque me parece algo curioso). No me acuerdo bien pero estos 3 cromosomas eran siempre de la parte de arriba de cada par (es decir, interpreto que son todos o bien herencia de mi vía paterna o vía materna exclusivamente) y eran algo así como el cromosoma 12, el 14 o estaban relativamente juntos (ya lo miraré mejor).

Yo sólo tengo un 8% de NW, la mayoría "Broad European" y sin tener ningún antepasado foráneo en siglos, me parece poco lógico tener 3 cromosomas en su totalidad como NW. ¿Acaso en docenas de recombinaciones durante siglos, ¿no se habría "partido" e intercalado con otros orígenes? ¿Por qué se mantiene tan intacto después de tantos siglos de recombinaciones?

Mera curiosidad pero a ver si a los demás os pasa lo mismo.

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No soy full Espanol, pero creo que en mi caso, la mayor parte (no todo) de tres de mis cromosomas (en el primer, séptimo y onceavo par de cromosomas) es NW European.

Aqui:

https://i.imgur.com/QI6YzYY.png

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Nicol...20Unscaled.htm

Target: Alejandro
Distance: 1.6142% / 0.01614208 | ADC: 0.25x
47.8 Chartaginian
26.0 AngloSaxon
17.0 Medieval_Slav
5.0 Hellenic_Roman
4.2 KEN_IA_Deloraine

Target: Alejandro
Distance: 1.6026% / 0.01602562
42.6 Chartaginian
23.6 AngloSaxon
15.8 Medieval_Slav
6.2 KEN_IA_Deloraine
5.4 Hellenic_Roman
3.4 Shardana
3.0 Nordic_Norse

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Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Nicol...20Unscaled.htm

Target: Alejandro
Distance: 1.6142% / 0.01614208 | ADC: 0.25x
47.8 Chartaginian
26.0 AngloSaxon
17.0 Medieval_Slav
5.0 Hellenic_Roman
4.2 KEN_IA_Deloraine

Target: Alejandro
Distance: 1.6026% / 0.01602562
42.6 Chartaginian
23.6 AngloSaxon
15.8 Medieval_Slav
6.2 KEN_IA_Deloraine
5.4 Hellenic_Roman
3.4 Shardana
3.0 Nordic_Norse

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Target: Juan
Distance: 1.6439% / 0.01643945 | ADC: 0.25x
27.6 Gaul
23.6 Siculi
19.8 Nordic_Celt
18.6 Preroman_ItaloCeltic
7.8 Chartaginian
2.6 TZA_Pemba_600BP

Target: Juan
Distance: 1.6223% / 0.01622295
32.0 Siculi
28.2 Nordic_Celt
16.2 Gaul
12.4 Preroman_ItaloCeltic
7.4 Chartaginian
3.2 TZA_Pemba_600BP
0.6 Medieval_Slav