What's Your Y-DNA Haplogroup?

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Originally Posted by Lollipop

Well I'll be damned, for 1 minute I thought I was gone for good.Looks like I have a guardian angel ;)
To answer your question, we don't really know if mongrel's T came with non-euros , but one thing we know is for sure.Your j1 came with arabs.

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Yes just like how we know that you are of Gothic origin Gothmark my 100% WHG cioban

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Originally Posted by Lollipop

Well I'll be damned, for 1 minute I thought I was gone for good.Looks like I have a guardian angel ;)
To answer your question, we don't really know if mongrel's T came with non-euros , but one thing we know is for sure.Your j1 came with arabs.

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Why do you troll people? Only one specific cluster of J1-P58 is Arab and that is FGC11. Kelmendasi doesn't belong to this haplotype.

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Originally Posted by mongrel

Why do you troll people? Only one specific cluster of J1-P58 is Arab and that is FGC11. Kelmendasi doesn't belong to this haplotype.

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He will still claim it's Arab he doesn't really care about facts

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Originally Posted by Lenny

Nice website.

I'll offer these following observations I had of it:

• For those looking for a "Turkey is not European" weapon, their R1b+R1a+I only comes to 28%...
• All other European countries have [R1b+R1a+I] super-majorities (usually approaching 75% - Iceland has 98%!).
• There are three exceptions to the above rule...
  
  • Firstly, Albania. Their R1b+R1a+I is only 48%; most of the rest seems to come from nonEuropean Islamic settlers after the conversion of the Albanians.
  • Secondly, Greece. If one wants to know what kind of damage was done to Greece by the centuries of Ottoman rule (and to some extent their imperialism in the disatant past): Their [R1b+R1a+I] is 39.5% (they also have some Hellenic-only markers; but Middle-Eastern Y-lines seem to predominate).
  • Finally, Finland. The majority carry the Finnic-N. (It's been well established that 90%+ of Finnic genetics is European and the rest is old-Siberian... hence the slight lappoid tendencies of some Finnish people).
• Back to Turkey-- If one considers Turkey to be European based on this metric, one would have to likewise consider Syria to be European, as their [R1b+R1a+I] is 28.5%. Iraq's is comparable, too, at 22%. Iran's is 26%. (Iran also curiously has 2.5% of the Finnic N...)
• For those looking for a "Southern Italy is not fully European" weapon:
  
  • [R1b+R1a+I] Frequency in Northern Italy - 69.5%
  • [R1b+R1a+I] Frequency in Central Italy - 56.5%
  • [R1b+R1a+I] Frequency in Southern Italy - 39%
• Although the proto-Germanic/Nordic "I" was always a European grouping going back to the pre-IceAge, it seems they usually tended towards being a ruling caste and not the peasantry, so they usually had fewer children than the surrounding R1'ers, thus their gene frequency is lower overall.

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Nonsense. Modern Greeks are very much the same as they were in Ancient times. Simply put, IndoEuropeans migrated and/or invaded and mixed with the Indigenous Caucasoids of the area.

http://observer.com/2017/08/dna-test...reeks-origins/

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

Yes just like how we know that you are of Gothic origin Gothmark my 100% WHG cioban

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Its the truth,when i look in the mirror often i expect my reflection to talk back in german.

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Originally Posted by mongrel

Why do you troll people? Only one specific cluster of J1-P58 is Arab and that is FGC11. Kelmendasi doesn't belong to this haplotype.

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All J1 is arab.Just because it supposedly lived in Europe for a few thousand years and mixed with europeans, it does not mean that today its European.It's like saying that the L,Q and other ydna's in Sweden in 2000 years will be considered european...

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Originally Posted by Lollipop

Its the truth,when i look in the mirror often i expect my reflection to talk back in german.

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https://68.media.tumblr.com/faf5d475...qderj8_500.gif

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Originally Posted by Lollipop

Its the truth,when i look in the mirror often i expect my reflection to talk back in german.



All J1 is arab.Just because it supposedly lived in Europe for a few thousand years and mixed with europeans, it does not mean that today its European.It's like saying that the L,Q and other ydna's in Sweden in 2000 years will be considered european...

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You really are a weird cioban Gothmark, J1 predates Semites but whatever floats your boat my Gothic cioban

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

You really are a weird cioban Gothmark, J1 predates Semites but whatever floats your boat my Gothic cioban

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And it does, I have J1 too and its most likely over 10000 years old, I'm a native Zagrosian farmer :laugh:

If J1 is arab, then Ev-13 is african rofl

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Originally Posted by Pahli

And it does, I have J1 too and its most likely over 10000 years old, I'm a native Zagrosian farmer :laugh:

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Yh probably lol. Iirc 3 Scytho-Sarmatian samples were found to be J1 so maybe they helped distribute it as well