Edito porque llamé igual a 2 samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
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Edito porque llamé igual a 2 samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
Llama especialmente la atención este:
Distance to: Portuguese: Portugal11Code:Portuguese:Portugal11,0.112685,0.139128,0.045632,-0.000969,0.0397,0.00251,-0.00423,0.002769,0.036814,0.028976,0.001624,0.01094,-0.013974,-0.01445,0.012486,0.009016,0.014081,-0.005194,-0.008673,0.004877,-0.00025,-0.002226,0.001849,0.003494,-0.00467
0.02850624 Western_Iberia_B
0.03502066 Western_Iberia_E
0.03532066 Western_Iberia_D
0.04479715 Western_Iberia_C
0.05335563 Western_Iberia_A
Y pongo bien las sources, que las tenía mal puestas:
Code:Western_Iberia_A,0.105635,0.147286,0.034534,-0.002808,0.083067,-0.003419,-0.003868,0.011839,0.025139,0.030482,-0.001017,0.006233,-0.011671,-0.011756,0.010056,0.001105,-0.001739,-0.002090,-0.006086,0.0000860,0.0016300,-0.0036560,-0.0000890,-0.0019520,0.000666
Western_Iberia_B,0.1059749,0.14389121,0.03570005,-0.00442911,0.0411317,-0.00399821,-0.00373312,0.0027618,0.0249777,0.0283415,-0.0007001,0.00755231,-0.01198001,-0.0111856,0.0124442,-0.0004008,-0.00113155,-0.000910169,-0.0058101,-0.000245201,0.00113802,-0.00256878,0.00130049,-0.00113333,-0.00009061
Western_Iberia_C,0.102371,0.14599836,0.03839654,-0.001609,0.03899084,-0.00194992,-0.00259015,0.00669191,0.02371925,0.0289806,-0.00097474,0.0046501,-0.009812,-0.00449542,0.01059016,-0.008751,-0.0151195,0.0007601,-0.00553231,-0.00175110,0.0043702,-0.00123745,0.0030881,-0.00549543,0.00319898
Western_Iberia_D,0.102441,0.145094,0.036345,-0.001454,0.039276,-0.000802,-0.002850,0.000692,0.026026,0.031231,-0.002395,0.008542,-0.011354,-0.011526,0.010943,-0.004293,-0.007383,-0.000350,-0.006128,-0.004971,0.002308,-0.003849,0.000786,-0.003223,0.00000102
Western_Iberia_E,0.09898026,0.14598236,0.03170178,0.001938,0.03908402,-0.00140014,-0.0042311,-0.00323121,0.024499543,0.03479807,-0.001624,0.008692,-0.01169744,-0.01623922,0.00778872,-0.000265,-0.001825,-0.0019001,-0.007416,-0.001982751,0.005004991,-0.00531731,-0.0016925,-0.00011992,0.00199936
Soy un desastre...:picard1:
Tengo la luz apagada porque tengo todo abierto y no quiero que me entren mosquitos, y no sé ni lo que hago.
Y pongo bien lo de antes:
https://i.imgur.com/JDWONVk.png
https://i.imgur.com/rIEpCtL.png
Target: Western_Iberia_E
Distance: 1.1245% / 0.01124459
100.0 Portuguese
Target: Western_Iberia_D
Distance: 0.5086% / 0.00508580
100.0 Portuguese
Target: Western_Iberia_C
Distance: 0.0268% / 0.00026825
100.0 Portuguese
Target: Western_Iberia_B
Distance: 0.0850% / 0.00085044
100.0 Portuguese
Target: Western_Iberia_A
Distance: 3.5314% / 0.03531446
100.0 Portuguese
Distance to: Western_Iberia_C
0.00028410 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal12
0.01643443 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
0.01864006 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6
0.02093695 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal9
0.02411207 Portuguese:Portugal9
0.02488198 Portuguese:Portugal8
0.02718684 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
0.02769786 Portuguese:Portugal6
0.02773807 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal13
0.02810808 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal3
0.02933867 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal7
0.02963252 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal1
0.03107114 Portuguese:Portugal12
0.03223796 Portuguese:Portugal15
0.03228610 Portuguese:Portugal13
0.03370279 Portuguese:Portugal10
0.03512083 Portuguese:Portugal3
0.03698678 Portuguese:Portugal5
0.03713646 Portuguese:Portugal2
0.03741230 Portuguese:Portugal14
0.04105474 Portuguese:Portugal7
0.04479715 Portuguese:Portugal11
0.04710325 Portuguese:Portugal4
0.04842075 Portuguese:Portugal1
0.05474451 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
Distance to: Western_Iberia_B
0.01583173 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal1
0.01592911 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
0.01763816 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal13
0.01800115 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal7
0.01912389 Portuguese:Portugal10
0.02025445 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal3
0.02092902 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal12
0.02168668 Portuguese:Portugal2
0.02171593 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
0.02196985 Portuguese:Portugal13
0.02355185 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal9
0.02421935 Portuguese:Portugal6
0.02430969 Portuguese:Portugal12
0.02474972 Portuguese:Portugal15
0.02740638 Portuguese:Portugal3
0.02772518 Portuguese:Portugal14
0.02795068 Portuguese:Portugal8
0.02850624 Portuguese:Portugal11
0.02995953 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6
0.03029507 Portuguese:Portugal7
0.03141021 Portuguese:Portugal9
0.03160390 Portuguese:Portugal5
0.03351678 Portuguese:Portugal1
0.03537679 Portuguese:Portugal4
0.03746349 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
É suposto ficarmos no fim só com uma sample "Western Iberian"? Ainda não entendi porque tens várias.
La B y la C son muy buenas para portugueses.
Hago diferentes mezclas y voy comprobando, os las ofrezco a todos para que las miréis y me opinéis cuales pueden ser más representativas del oeste peninsular. Son todas medias hechas con poblaciones del oeste.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
Desde luego la B y la C son perfectas para Portugal, pero no sé hasta que punto lo son también para extremeños, gallegos, castellanoleoneses y sobre todo y más problemático, para andaluces occidentales.
Solo hay que hacer lo mismo que acabo de hacer con todas las muestras portuguesas y mirar a ver cuales funcionan mejor con cada región, pero lo haré mañana porque es tarde ya.
Si te aburres y te apetece puedes hacerlo tú.
Andalucía tiene tanto población occidental como oriental, y en sus muestras no vienen las provincias de donde salieron.
Puedo comparar lasmuestras con las muestras B y C, y las que menos distancias tengan deberían ser las de Andalucía occidental?
y una respuesta más a tú "por qué?", no quiero dar por sentado a priori, que lo que funcione bien para Portugal, funcione bien para todas y cada una de las regiones occidentales españolas. Igual para unas sí, para otras no tanto, unas muestras sí, otras no.O igual funcionan bien para todas, y ya está terminado el trabajo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
Me falta comparar lo que te dije, pero me voy ya a dormir.
Por que tienen menos adn moruno y más whg/estepa.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Pues mi lado asturiano es muy gallego, asi que x3 gallego esta bien, mas el italiano. Ahora pruebo las muestras que hiciste, que estoy en la laptop de mi novia con el LoL.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Es sumamente curioso, de hecho, el EEF, WHG y STEPPE que ellos sacan le es suficiente para que en calculadoras modernas les dispare un % de iberico considerable, alrededor del 30%, por ejemplo Axios, Nassbean sacan como 30% de iberico, siendo 100% marroquies del norte, y creo que Adamm tambien, y ojito, con haplogrupo E1b y clados comunes en Iberia, porque me lo puse a investigar el otro dia, o sea, para mi que mas influyo la invasion iberiQuote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Jajajaja, el dira que esa pequeña parte europea es toda esteparia, y por eso es mas blanco que nosotros los EEFs. Joder con nuestro amigo trirracial... Siempre he querido ver los resultados de CV y Duffmannn, ahora los que mas quiero ver son los de este tipo, porque los españoles mencionados seria algo raro que saquen una sorpresa mayuscula, pero este seria una caja de Pandora, literal xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Pues mi lado asturiano es muy gallego, asi que x3 gallego esta bien, mas el italiano. Ahora pruebo las muestras que hiciste, que estoy en la laptop de mi novia con el LoL.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Es sumamente curioso, de hecho, el EEF, WHG y STEPPE que ellos sacan le es suficiente para que en calculadoras modernas les dispare un % de iberico considerable, alrededor del 30%, por ejemplo Axios, Nassbean sacan como 30% de iberico, siendo 100% marroquies del norte, y creo que Adamm tambien, y ojito, con haplogrupo E1b y clados comunes en Iberia, porque me lo puse a investigar el otro dia, o sea, para mi que mas influyo la invasion iberiQuote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Jajajaja, el dira que esa pequeña parte europea es toda esteparia, y por eso es mas blanco que nosotros los EEFs. Joder con nuestro amigo trirracial... Siempre he querido ver los resultados de CV y Duffmannn, ahora los que mas quiero ver son los de este tipo, porque los españoles mencionados seria algo raro que saquen una sorpresa mayuscula, pero este seria una caja de Pandora, literal xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
La media de Portugal con +10 muestras portuguesas de mi cosecha, pongo la oficial para comparar también.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
Code:Portugal_Ultimate,0.10491229,0.1446694,0.03606354,-0.0036822,0.04197691,-0.00343431,-0.0041562,0.00303937,0.025209,0.0294806,-0.00129909,0.00689394,-0.01227091,-0.0120794,0.01173009,-0.00078417,-0.00241017,-0.00079277,-0.0049274,-0.00110409,0.00114794,-0.00272034,0.00112334,-0.00182806,-0.00061237
Portuguese,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Mis dos primeros samples de Eastern_Iberia, uno es buenísimo y otro es malísimo ;)
Sin embargo, haciendo llenando las sources con muestras catalanas, valencianas, de Baleares Murxia y Aragón, para representar poblaciones del Este, y portuguesas, extremeñas y gallegas para el oeste, sale esto:
Distance to: East_Iberia_A
0.05140516 Spanish_Aragon:HG01676
0.05404987 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL083
0.05585199 Spanish_Castello:CAR200
0.05780964 Spanish_Castello:FER033
0.05781067 Spanish_Lleida:FOR066
0.05832404 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR048
0.05880921 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01761
0.05928934 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV015_2
0.05939999 Spanish_Lleida:ROS005
0.05981708 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA035
0.06017495 Spanish_Lleida:MST075
0.06018952 Spanish_Barcelones:COD147
0.06054410 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039
0.06067731 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202
0.06096717 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01536
0.06174997 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625
0.06175204 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID057
0.06205079 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS040
0.06235658 Spanish_Galicia:GAL74
0.06236200 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:MAS003
0.06256113 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011
0.06268225 Spanish_Barcelones:GUS119
0.06288526 Spanish_Barcelones:VID014
0.06297736 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL051
0.06314149 Spanish_Lleida:GUS014
Distance to: East_Iberia_B
0.01351677 Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
0.01508104 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510
0.01545968 Spanish_Baleares:HG01615
0.01655698 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011
0.01657925 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
0.01784352 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039
0.01784645 Spanish_Baleares:HG01625
0.02021072 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV014_2
0.02021633 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL051
0.02021767 Spanish_Mallorca:ALE339
0.02032550 Spanish_Eivissa:GUS199
0.02065959 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV012_2
0.02093602 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV013_2
0.02133791 Spanish_Aragon:HG01675
0.02138258 Spanish_Murcia:HG01618
0.02166724 Spanish_Menorca:GUS007
0.02167941 Spanish_Castello:SAB019
0.02206401 Spanish_Mallorca:ROI096
0.02225085 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal1
0.02268999 Portuguese:Portugal2
0.02277729 Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
0.02281153 Spanish_Castello:ALB231
0.02313356 Spanish_Castello:BOS027
0.02316943 Spanish_Galicia:GAL11
0.02318275 Spanish_Menorca:FER054
La que peores distancias tiene, discrimina mejor Este-Oeste, y a la que tiene distancias buenísimas se le cuelan samples del oeste. Son un poco outliers? Qué hago?
las coordenadas son estas:
Code:East_Iberia_B,0.116763,0.145573,0.040169,-0.000895,0.043895,-0.001604,-0.001487,0.000867,0.022104,0.030804,-0.002591,0.006740,-0.014299,-0.011302,0.007289,0.000120,-0.000935,0.000312,-0.000230,-0.000542,0.004739,-0.000805,-0.001543,-0.002186,0.000788
East_Iberia_A,0.120007,0.145737,0.082263,-0.001316,0.089309,-0.002924,-0.001069,0.003079,0.020969,0.033103,-0.003142,0.008077,-0.014740,-0.011730,0.009619,-0.002122,-0.004994,-0.001202,-0.000417,-0.000296,0.004234,-0.000314,-0.002809,-0.005270,0.000381
Los extremeños son de los que mas estepa tienen a nivel peninsular, superando los 32 puntos, si no mal recuerdo, asi que tiene sentido que se cuelen con los arios catalanes. Estais haciendo un trabajo estupendo, esto en anthrogenica seria una joya.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Con las oficiales hay que dar un voto de fe dejándolas tal como están, tiene que haber variedad en los samples regionales para representar la diversidad.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Osea, susto o muerte.
O buenas distancias que discriminen no muy bien o malas distancias que discriminan muy bien.
Podría mezclar las dos a ver si su mezcla hace las dos cosas medio bien/medio mal :D
Las malas distancias son averages valencianos y catalanes y las buenas son catalanes , valencianos, aragoneses, baleares y murcianos.
Tenía miedo de meter aragoneses, porque pueden dar problemas tanto con vascos como con occidentales, y menos miedo, pero algo también, con los murcianos.
No entiendo que me quieres decir con eso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Las mezclas las hago con averages de poblaciones , pero las compruebo con sources del datasheet de muestras individuales.Como son muestras individuales, igual las que se cuelan solo son outliers, no?
La prueba definitiva será cuando probemos todas las muestras oocidentales, orientales y vascas todas en una misma source, y hagamos pruebas quitando unas y otras hasta que veamos como interactúan unas con otras.
Lo bueno es que tenemos muchos foreros occidentales, pero ninguno realmente representativo vasco o claramente oriental.Podemos usar las muestras individuales del datasheet correspondiente con el problema de que todos los datasheets están basados en esas muestras individuales...
Para el Western Iberia las que yo ofrezco como candidatas estaban claras, las de menos distancias, pero esto que acabo de ver con las East Iberia, me crea dudas de cual tiene que ser el baremo para considerarlas buenas.
Pero bueno, tampoco somos profesionales, estamos usando como mac Gyver, bicarbonato y dos cerillas para hacer una bomba atómica.;)
No son outliers, es normal que alguna muestra individual se solape con otras y para captar la variedad genética regional es necesario ponerlas. Si no mira a Spaniard que se solapa con los irlandeses pero es español. ¿Dónde le pondrías a él?Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Basarse solo en distancias no me parece muy idóneo.
Yo voy comentando aquí los métodos y lso problemas que me voy encontrando, por si alguno de vosotros ve clara la solución y por si os encontráis los mismos problemas y dudas que yo.
Pensaba hacer todo por mi cuenta y publicar mis samples finales cuando estuvieran terminados, pero creo que exponer el proceso en todos sus pasos es incluso más interesante que simplemente poner unos samples ya terminados. Así aprendemos todos, especialmente yo.
Hacer medias de todas las poblaciones X creo que es un poco perder el tiempo, porque mi idea es que lso average son precisamente las medias de las muestras individuales, osea que ya está hecho, y si hay diferencias entre unas y otras, se debe a que los datasheet de unos y otros están desacompasados en la actualización. Igual estoy equivocado, pero es la impresión que me da.
Por eso tiendo a usar averages generales, y no las muestras individuales. Aunque a veces, sobre todo al principio, también las usaba.
No sé que pensáis sobre esto.
Luego sigo, voy a comer.
Ya, estictamente no es un outlier, usé esa expresión como sinónimo de que se escapa de la norma.En la península, aún siendo individuos nativos hay diversidad en cada zona, y es fácil que hasta en extremos de ella, haya individuos que se solapen en sus genéticas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Estoy seguro que con la cantidad de muestras que hay del este ibérico se puede representar gran parte de la variedad de toda la peninsula, eso también ayuda a los occidentales a solaparse.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Se supone que las muestras antes de ponerse en los datasheet son seleccionadas para representar lo más fielmente a la población original y nativa de cada lugar, por supuesto que hay variaciones, pero en teoría deberíamos ser capaces de poder diferenciar al menos dos samples extremos de población occidental y oriental de la península que nos permitan discriminar estos dos orígenes aproximadamente.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Al menos cabría esperar que hubieran sido hasta cierto punto rigurosos al hacer los datasheet con samples así seleccionados. Poniéndome a mí de ejemplo, aunque haya nacido en el País Vasco, yo no soy representativo como vasco, siendo realista mi adn podría ser medianamente representativo de alguna zona periférica a la región vasca.
Hemos visto todos como en teoría, las diferencias genéticas de la península son mayores entre Este-Oeste, aunque con muchos matices y especificidades, esa generalidad debería manifestarse de algún modo en los g25.
Obviamente lo más fácil de discriminar es el componente vasco, con ese no deberíamos tener problemas, aunque haya poblaciones que puedan interferir con él, como muchas regiones que rodean esa región. pero basta con no incluir al hacer nuestros samples Western y Eastern ningún sample cercano al País Vasco es relativamente fácil de aislar.
O no, ya veremos.:rolleyes:
Estaba pensando que igual la influencia vasca podría ser un elemento diferenciador para discriminar la genética Este-Oeste ? Se me acaba de ocurrir ahora...¿Qué pensáis?
Ya siento el coñazo que estoy dando...:picard2:
Por cierto, recibí respuesta de MH al email que envié :
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June 1, 2020 3:39 PM (UTC+03:00)
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Bueno, éstas son los samples que hice:
He probado con diferentes muestras y salen estas distancias:Code:Basque_A,0.129400,0.151363,0.056592,0.009969,0.055369,0.001684,-0.001497,0.002219,0.029901,0.042217,-0.006567,0.010430,-0.021605,-0.014950,0.016526,-0.000228,-0.010023,0.002891,-0.000104,-0.003690,0.008894,0.000847,-0.007353,-0.008318,0.004371
Basque_B,0.129980,0.151218,0.056729,0.010916,0.056997,0.001317,-0.002363,0.001867,0.030979,0.043402,-0.006901,0.010974,-0.021877,-0.016393,0.015582,0.000896,-0.008863,0.002900,-0.001266,-0.002242,0.009474,0.002486,-0.007764,-0.009103,0.004721
Western_Iberia_A,0.105635,0.147286,0.034534,-0.002808,0.083067,-0.003419,-0.003868,0.011839,0.025139,0.030482,-0.001017,0.006233,-0.011671,-0.011756,0.010056,0.001105,-0.001739,-0.002090,-0.006086,0.0000860,0.0016300,-0.0036560,-0.0000890,-0.0019520,0.000666
Western_Iberia_B,0.1059749,0.14389121,0.03570005,-0.00442911,0.0411317,-0.00399821,-0.00373312,0.0027618,0.0249777,0.0283415,-0.0007001,0.00755231,-0.01198001,-0.0111856,0.0124442,-0.0004008,-0.00113155,-0.000910169,-0.0058101,-0.000245201,0.00113802,-0.00256878,0.00130049,-0.00113333,-0.00009061
Western_Iberia_C,0.102371,0.14599836,0.03839654,-0.001609,0.03899084,-0.00194992,-0.00259015,0.00669191,0.02371925,0.0289806,-0.00097474,0.0046501,-0.009812,-0.00449542,0.01059016,-0.008751,-0.0151195,0.0007601,-0.00553231,-0.00175110,0.0043702,-0.00123745,0.0030881,-0.00549543,0.00319898
Western_Iberia_D,0.102441,0.145094,0.036345,-0.001454,0.039276,-0.000802,-0.002850,0.000692,0.026026,0.031231,-0.002395,0.008542,-0.011354,-0.011526,0.010943,-0.004293,-0.007383,-0.000350,-0.006128,-0.004971,0.002308,-0.003849,0.000786,-0.003223,0.00000102
Western_Iberia_E,0.09898026,0.14598236,0.03170178,0.001938,0.03908402,-0.00140014,-0.0042311,-0.00323121,0.024499543,0.03479807,-0.001624,0.008692,-0.01169744,-0.01623922,0.00778872,-0.000265,-0.001825,-0.0019001,-0.007416,-0.001982751,0.005004991,-0.00531731,-0.0016925,-0.00011992,0.00199936
East_Iberia_B,0.116763,0.145573,0.040169,-0.000895,0.043895,-0.001604,-0.001487,0.000867,0.022104,0.030804,-0.002591,0.006740,-0.014299,-0.011302,0.007289,0.000120,-0.000935,0.000312,-0.000230,-0.000542,0.004739,-0.000805,-0.001543,-0.002186,0.000788
East_Iberia_A,0.120007,0.145737,0.082263,-0.001316,0.089309,-0.002924,-0.001069,0.003079,0.020969,0.033103,-0.003142,0.008077,-0.014740,-0.011730,0.009619,-0.002122,-0.004994,-0.001202,-0.000417,-0.000296,0.004234,-0.000314,-0.002809,-0.005270,0.000381
East_Iberia_C,0.116199,0.1470133,0.042622,-0.0028219,0.0400251,-0.0022293,-0.00053853,0.002461301,0.0193323,0.02958292,-0.0046045,0.0081411,-0.0148759,-0.01261152,0.0044135,0.0023003,0.0020513,0.00104947,0.00114143,-0.0044522,0.0004899,0.0006302,0.00123331,0.000321688,-0.00412023
Eastern:
Spoiler!
Western:
Spoiler!
Basque
Spoiler!
Yo creo que está bastante bien.Se puede quitar algún sample que no aporta nada a nadie, pero igual si se quita se descompensa todo.
¿Qué os parece?
Con según que sample individual, no funcionan tan bien esas sources, pero en general funcionan.
No tan bien como con los pop averages, porque obviamente la mayoría de los samples que usé para las medias, son de esa datasheet...
Probaré con mis coordenadas a ver que me da, debería darme algo similar a Cantabria/Aragón.
Me gusta lo que veo.:)
Tiene sentido, ¿No?
Spoiler!
Hala, yo ya terminé mis samples. Ahí queda eso, usadlos para cambiarlos o añadirles nuevos o como queráis.
El 90% de los posts de las últimas páginas son todos míos, me da hasta vergüenza, parezco Asperger con monotema.
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.6268% / 0.02626830
53.4 East_Iberia_C
29.2 Western_Iberia_B
17.2 East_Iberia_B
0.2 East_Iberia_A
Target: Juan_scaledQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Distance: 2.6026% / 0.02602564
47.2 Western_Iberia_D
36.0 Western_Iberia_E
10.8 Western_Iberia_A
6.0 Western_Iberia_C
Distance to: Juan_scaled
0.02693757 Western_Iberia_D
0.02814198 Western_Iberia_E
0.03210017 Western_Iberia_C
0.03305533 Western_Iberia_B
0.03574008 East_Iberia_B
0.03802339 East_Iberia_C
0.04912878 Western_Iberia_A
0.05499325 Basque_A
0.05662888 Basque_B
0.07494868 East_Iberia_A
Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
¿Cómo las véis por ahora?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
¿Alguna sugerencia o consejo?
¿Tiran mucho al oeste o vuestros resultados son razonables?
¿Estáis haciendo samples como locos y por eso no decís nada?
En mi caso mucho al este
De qué se compone East_Iberia_A? está lejos en todas las medias.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Distance to: Gil_VicenteQuote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
0.02400016 Portugal_Ultimate
0.02597823 Portuguese
Distance to: Gil_VicenteQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
0.02045359 Western_Iberia_D
0.02208195 Western_Iberia_C
0.02399141 Western_Iberia_E
0.02566567 Western_Iberia_B
0.02978024 East_Iberia_B
0.03276361 East_Iberia_C
0.04887581 Western_Iberia_A
0.05132245 Basque_A
0.05362066 Basque_B
0.07489367 East_Iberia_A
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.8732% / 0.01873242
54.6 Western_Iberia_C
41.8 Western_Iberia_E
3.6 Western_Iberia_A
Para mim as distâncias estão melhores do que as que tenho na datasheet actual do eurogenes:
Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.02256008 Spanish_Andalucia
0.02488614 Spanish_Extremadura
0.02507821 Spanish_Galicia
0.02589305 Spanish_Alacant
0.02597823 Portuguese
0.02627439 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
Nueva de East iberian, para compensar:
Code:Eastern_Iberia_D,0.118623,0.146511,0.040830,-0.000864,0.044471,-0.001771,-0.001364,0.001725,0.022721,0.032378,-0.002682,0.006962,-0.014377,-0.011684,0.007179,-0.000780,-0.001410,0.000075,-0.001211,-0.000411,0.003582,-0.000496,-0.002138,-0.003820,0.001196
Creo que en 0.25X funciona mejor:
Target: gixajo_scaledCode:Basque_A,0.129400,0.151363,0.056592,0.009969,0.055369,0.001684,-0.001497,0.002219,0.029901,0.042217,-0.006567,0.010430,-0.021605,-0.014950,0.016526,-0.000228,-0.010023,0.002891,-0.000104,-0.003690,0.008894,0.000847,-0.007353,-0.008318,0.004371
Basque_B,0.129980,0.151218,0.056729,0.010916,0.056997,0.001317,-0.002363,0.001867,0.030979,0.043402,-0.006901,0.010974,-0.021877,-0.016393,0.015582,0.000896,-0.008863,0.002900,-0.001266,-0.002242,0.009474,0.002486,-0.007764,-0.009103,0.004721
Western_Iberia_A,0.105635,0.147286,0.034534,-0.002808,0.083067,-0.003419,-0.003868,0.011839,0.025139,0.030482,-0.001017,0.006233,-0.011671,-0.011756,0.010056,0.001105,-0.001739,-0.002090,-0.006086,0.0000860,0.0016300,-0.0036560,-0.0000890,-0.0019520,0.000666
Western_Iberia_B,0.1059749,0.14389121,0.03570005,-0.00442911,0.0411317,-0.00399821,-0.00373312,0.0027618,0.0249777,0.0283415,-0.0007001,0.00755231,-0.01198001,-0.0111856,0.0124442,-0.0004008,-0.00113155,-0.000910169,-0.0058101,-0.000245201,0.00113802,-0.00256878,0.00130049,-0.00113333,-0.00009061
Western_Iberia_C,0.102371,0.14599836,0.03839654,-0.001609,0.03899084,-0.00194992,-0.00259015,0.00669191,0.02371925,0.0289806,-0.00097474,0.0046501,-0.009812,-0.00449542,0.01059016,-0.008751,-0.0151195,0.0007601,-0.00553231,-0.00175110,0.0043702,-0.00123745,0.0030881,-0.00549543,0.00319898
Western_Iberia_D,0.102441,0.145094,0.036345,-0.001454,0.039276,-0.000802,-0.002850,0.000692,0.026026,0.031231,-0.002395,0.008542,-0.011354,-0.011526,0.010943,-0.004293,-0.007383,-0.000350,-0.006128,-0.004971,0.002308,-0.003849,0.000786,-0.003223,0.00000102
Western_Iberia_E,0.09898026,0.14598236,0.03170178,0.001938,0.03908402,-0.00140014,-0.0042311,-0.00323121,0.024499543,0.03479807,-0.001624,0.008692,-0.01169744,-0.01623922,0.00778872,-0.000265,-0.001825,-0.0019001,-0.007416,-0.001982751,0.005004991,-0.00531731,-0.0016925,-0.00011992,0.00199936
Eastern_Iberia_B,0.116763,0.145573,0.040169,-0.000895,0.043895,-0.001604,-0.001487,0.000867,0.022104,0.030804,-0.002591,0.006740,-0.014299,-0.011302,0.007289,0.000120,-0.000935,0.000312,-0.000230,-0.000542,0.004739,-0.000805,-0.001543,-0.002186,0.000788
Eastern_Iberia_A,0.120007,0.145737,0.082263,-0.001316,0.089309,-0.002924,-0.001069,0.003079,0.020969,0.033103,-0.003142,0.008077,-0.014740,-0.011730,0.009619,-0.002122,-0.004994,-0.001202,-0.000417,-0.000296,0.004234,-0.000314,-0.002809,-0.005270,0.000381
Eastern_Iberia_C,0.116199,0.1470133,0.042622,-0.0028219,0.0400251,-0.0022293,-0.00053853,0.002461301,0.0193323,0.02958292,-0.0046045,0.0081411,-0.0148759,-0.01261152,0.0044135,0.0023003,0.0020513,0.00104947,0.00114143,-0.0044522,0.0004899,0.0006302,0.00123331,0.000321688,-0.00412023
Eastern_Iberia_D,0.118623,0.146511,0.040830,-0.000864,0.044471,-0.001771,-0.001364,0.001725,0.022721,0.032378,-0.002682,0.006962,-0.014377,-0.011684,0.007179,-0.000780,-0.001410,0.000075,-0.001211,-0.000411,0.003582,-0.000496,-0.002138,-0.003820,0.001196
Distance: 1.6402% / 0.01640228 | ADC: 0.25x
48.4 Iberian:Eastern_Iberia_D
24.2 Iberian:Western_Iberia_B
20.2 Iberian:Basque_A
6.0 Iberian:Basque_B
1.2 Iberian:Western_Iberia_A
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6335% / 0.01633540
36.0 Iberian:Eastern_Iberia_D
32.0 Iberian:Western_Iberia_B
15.6 Iberian:Basque_B
14.4 Iberian:Basque_A
2.0 Iberian:Western_Iberia_A
No soy del oeste, esto se equivoca.
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.6026% / 0.02602564
47.2 Western_Iberia_D
36.0 Western_Iberia_E
10.8 Western_Iberia_A
6.0 Western_Iberia_C
Distance to: Juan_scaled
0.02693757 Western_Iberia_D
0.02814198 Western_Iberia_E
0.03210017 Western_Iberia_C
0.03305533 Western_Iberia_B
0.03574008 Eastern_Iberia_B
0.03635971 Eastern_Iberia_D
0.03802339 Eastern_Iberia_C
0.04912878 Western_Iberia_A
0.05499325 Basque_A
0.05662888 Basque_B
0.07494868 Eastern_Iberia_A
Otras medias:
Code:Cataluña,0.12077928,0.14707664,0.04290777,0.00236625,0.04438687,0.0001284,-0.00038494,0.00249616,0.02112285,0.03031871,-0.00189737,0.00757058,-0.01494542,-0.01224015,0.00818586,0.00116473,-0.00122812,0.00020602,-0.00021286,-0.00129585,0.00355161,-0.00018646,-0.0022193,-0.00277015,0.00019819
Iberia_Occidental,0.1077212,0.14586343,0.03865823,-0.00203468,0.04417193,-0.0030299,-0.00402187,0.0030634,0.02568488,0.03045303,-0.00198198,0.00690193,-0.01338008,-0.01136302,0.01135753,-0.00327203,-0.0060965,-0.00131768,-0.00523415,-0.00102267,0.00236928,-0.00307972,-0.00054072,-0.00236073,0.00137203
Vasco,0.12536365,0.14761855,0.052205,0.00597998,0.05149248,0.00064698,-0.0023076,0.00015073,0.02617888,0.0403983,-0.0064707,0.01095693,-0.01912345,-0.01767323,0.01585293,0.00464983,-0.0033321,0.00095703,-0.0015381,-0.00247163,0.00521818,0.00029703,-0.0060305,-0.00541233,0.00214718
Iberia_Oriental,0.11683327,0.1465569,0.04020671,-0.00102679,0.0434405,-0.00227718,-0.00124485,0.00159748,0.02242915,0.03200014,-0.00343555,0.00777106,-0.01503472,-0.0117703,0.00794727,0.00062631,-0.00176263,0.00017622,-0.00143362,-0.0019189,0.00364306,0.00024555,-0.00207599,-0.00231641,-0.00038346
Es una de las más simples, igual es la que menos samples mezclados tiene : Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre +Spanish_Valencia del modern averages, igual me equivoqué en algo en alguno de los pasos que lo hago a mano. Intento centrarme, pero es difícil en esta casa, me puedo haber despistado y con no seleccionar un signo negativo al copiar y pegar, te puede cambiar bastante todo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Muy mal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
El Eastern Iberia A tiene al menos una coordenada mal, en vez de (C1+C2)/2 es C1+C2 , igual solo es esa.