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yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Lucas
Here is a properly rounded version (without all the 0s)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucas
Iranian_Persian1,0.089703925,0.0976939,-0.0628055,-0.024631975,-0.044349725,0.0006191,0.00392685,-0.0039299,-0.0285167,-0.01545545,0.0000958245,-0.001225925,0.0033568,-0.002924425,0.005145125,0.011221075,-0.00400015,0.001869925,0.002546625,-0.008849175,-0.0011667,-0.003479575,-0.000019775,-0.003364275,0.0040295
Edit: also if possible maybe remove Iranian_Fars ( not much use for it in this case)
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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
NO! It's for Fars Province. No need for deleting.
Alright, but having it for just that province seems kinda awkward I guess (instead of deleting I guess we should add other provincial averages)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp
Please delete Yakut and Dolgan from Dodecad K12b as both are calculator-affected. Add this instead (Sakha is the same as Yakut, their original ethnonym)
Most academic Yakut samples that you can find on Gedmatch are from the same source(s) i.e. calculator-affected. I used only non-academics that I managed to find.Code:Sakha_Yakutia,1.57,65.57,0.02,1.30,0.34,3.01,0.69,0.09,0.30,25.98,1.13,0
@Lucas, please delete Croat_Bosnia from K12b. It's not very representative for BiH Croats and way too much central Euro shifted, more so than regular Croat average.
Also please rename Kaykavian Croat on K12b to North_Croat, Kajkavian is a dialect nobody except locals heard about.
Wait. K13 yes? In DK12b it is only Croat ref.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
And in K13 there isn't Croat Bosnia (nor in Dodecad). I'm lost a little...
Oh sorry! I meant K15.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucas
Changed, Kaykavian put to the bin where is its place. North replacing it:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Thank you. Finally we get a real Persian average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
A simple model. Very high proto-Iranian.
Target: Iranian_Persian
Distance: 0.8880% / 0.00887984
33.0 TKM_IA
29.8 IRN_Seh_Gabi_C
28.6 SYR_Ebla_EMBA
6.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
2.6 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren
While it’s quite close to Iranian_Fars, it was good to have a well rounded average with 100 samples and non outliers. As well as from multiple regions
Also @Lucas please update the average with the new one which is properly rounded and is not unnecessarily long
Yes, done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Yes, done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Sorry but I seem to have included a '1' in the name of it, so pls remove that as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Lucas
@Lucas
Some minor orthographic improvement (Eu K13):
Code:French_Alsace,40.65,22.72,16.81,6.48,9.58,1.60,0.39,0.47,0.25,0.36,0.27,0.16,0.26
French_Central,42.40,18.28,20.55,4.81,9.80,1.59,0.49,0.26,0.36,0.46,0.37,0.38,0.24
French_Corsica,26.74,9.01,28.48,6.84,23.99,3.65,0.18,0.18,0.21,0.17,0.45,0.1,0
French_Northeast,43.27,20.59,17.19,6.01,8.41,1.49,0.81,0.36,0.38,0.48,0.30,0.27,0.43
French_Northwest,48.53,22.11,15.45,5.52,4.38,1.00,1.19,0.25,0.31,0.59,0.29,0.22,0.17
French_Provence,35.19,14.10,22.05,6.40,17.59,2.34,0.36,0.26,0.26,0.40,0.37,0.42,0.24
French_South,41.77,14.33,26.39,2.70,10.79,1.43,0.55,0.18,0.26,0.58,0.53,0.33,0.17
French_Southwest,48.61,8.24,32.74,0.95,5.49,1.52,0.92,0.35,0.26,0.27,0.31,0.20,0.14
Yes, done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Graham, do you have any Scottish regional averages you can add yet? Around 20 kits should be enough, can always update them later.
More sorted averages instead of just "_B". Thankfully they included the information in the individual naming scheme.
Code:Iran_Arab,0.0515455559649,0.1127236804686,-0.0645954091928,-0.0507109847867,-0.0327972758751,-0.0108768538798,-0.0026521420615,-0.0022745707462,-0.002103713654,-0.0075759977272,0.0025517135201,-0.00618728385,0.014674709883,0.0013958567241,0.0020164279665,0.01013371124,-0.0133364245705,0.0011945710701,0.000844142603,-0.002626284926,0.000516999844,0.002897141987,-0.0002288570742,-0.0034427132529,0.0015739995278
Iran_Turkmen,0.08443591754,-0.011817092091,-0.0223528204172,-0.0103947283122,-0.0419098223728,-0.0033213639685,0.00583236422,0.0010068182825,-0.021567911247,-0.0102880919379,-0.0099351828117,0.0005858182404,0.001905363827,-0.003741000375,0.00381245493,0.0066295461175,0.00035554549,0.0011286364765,0.001508272879,-0.00301272758,-0.0056491823831,-0.0024952729768,-0.002903,-0.0021031820285,0.000990545
Iran_Baloch,0.0736056593,0.0521304392314,-0.09935032339,0.024906886398,-0.0700643263269,0.0266497751128,0.0051961105914,0.0006667,-0.0220885533467,-0.0195801091531,-0.0030852219137,-0.0022314442213,0.00736688815,-0.0040673329266,0.0162562205966,0.022363219985,-0.0181089981891,0.003364332996,0.0061591104952,-0.026526552902,-0.000859555469,-0.014742109636,-0.0018759998123,-0.0166019983398,0.012746665392
Iraqi_Arab,0.0407233,0.1170114,-0.0605489,-0.0604189,-0.0272698,-0.0185153,-0.0044651,-0.0036023,0.0064198,-0.005376,0.0054671,-0.0103658,0.0205731,-0.0005887,0.0016137,0.0116457,-0.0084388,0.0027942,0.0011103,0.0016535,0.0032236,0.0024524,-0.0030949,0.0009371,-0.0013505
Syrian_Kurd,0.0942835188567,0.1067998546933,-0.05084851017,-0.0347763402886,-0.035647840463,-0.007855334905,0.0013708336075,-0.0060381678743,-0.0216453376624,-0.01251366917,-0.000108333355,-0.001773333688,0.0031713339676,-0.0035555007111,-0.0020131670694,0.0117561690179,0.00319466731,0.0007180001436,0.0038968341127,-0.0101508353635,0.0007486668164,-0.003421167351,-0.00061633345,-0.0016065003,0.0036921674051
Syrian_West,0.0786518,0.13293275,-0.0495347,-0.0658597,-0.01586445,-0.02165585,-0.00254975,-0.0043382,-0.00287355,0.002287,0.00376745,-0.00451855,0.0097074,-0.00197495,-0.0040784,0.00872445,0.0014474,0.0010262,0.0015084,-0.00095665,-0.0008485,0.00055635,-0.0021692,0.00116285,0.00046695
Syrian_East,0.038808199287,0.11673750231,-0.052150281183,-0.065753505675,-0.018538171938,-0.021195740709,-0.00324523485,-0.00376909147,0.008492562936,-0.005041804482,0.004894758,-0.00964856178,0.018320553108,0.00030814255,-0.00004528567,0.011169084069,-0.0049731856,0.001351331982,0.00210095029,0.003346758559,0.002602521207,0.00478713807,-0.002300569128,0.002633711652,-0.00089518958
Please add this new Croatian average to Dodecad. But do not delete the old one (for now)
Code:Croat2,4.68,0.30,0.43,0.55,27.32,45.25,0.17,0.06,3.41,0.14,17.70,0
^^^^Yes, please add it Lucas. I'd just like to have it named differently because 1 and 2 will confuse people.
Average posted by Leto above should be named just Croat (it plots in between north/south thus representative for average), and old one renamed to Croat_South!
(we don't know exact origin of samples it was made of, but it works very well for Croats with origins south of Sava river and looks genetically southern)
Thanks.
Are those Croats south of the Sava still more northern than an average Serb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Yes, but they are very similar to Bosniaks and western Serbs from Croatia and Bosnia (and probably western Serbia). Difference between these is very small.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Okay, let it be Croat_South then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
the averages have been posted a hundred times, you can check it by yoursef :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
just kidding, basically, majority of south Croats is 27/32 NA/Baltic, and Serbs are mostly around 24/29.
Bosniaks from central Bosnia are 25/35,and those from others part of Bosnia are more like the Serbs.
Done, Syrian is estimation based on academic or private samples?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
But you added them with the wrong names. It should be like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Lucas
Also you haven't changed the UdiCode:Croat,4.68,0.30,0.43,0.55,27.32,45.25,0.17,0.06,3.41,0.14,17.70,0
Croat_South,4.59,0.41,0.4,0.31,27.14,43.51,0.31,0.04,4.04,0.11,19.1,0.03
Code:Udi_Azerbaijan,21.35,0.53,0.31,0.23,9.44,8.73,0.79,0.2,11.62,0.4,46.24,0.16
Academic, same ones in the Syrian_B average but ordered based on their origins. Also small correction, pls change the Iran_ ones to Iranian, thats my fault for not doing it in the OP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucas
Please add this average for Eurogenes K15
Code:Polish_Jew,9.927,13.02,6.126,4.734,13.929,14.591,25.05,8.375,0.206,1.044,0.549,0.167,0.269,1.838,0.172
okQuote:
Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf
okQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
@Lucas pls change the Iran_ ones to Iranian, thats my fault for not doing it in the OP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucas
Please replace the Yaghnobi reference for Eu K13. I don't know who made the previous one (Kyp or Mingle) but it doesn't even add up to 100 pct. Absolutely careless
I would also add back the original Tajik reference, it's not bad at all, probably the Yunusbayev dataCode:Yaghnobi_Tajikistan,11.33,16.37,1.51,39.59,10.16,0.93,12.83,0.64,4.02,1.89,0.05,0.44,0.23
Code:Tajik_Tajikistan,10.93,10.43,1.29,35.25,7.16,1.38,17.84,4.62,9.04,1.48,0.05,0.23,0.31
Polish Jews are causing a problem in K13 updated (15 values).
Updated English Southwest (32, incl. Cornwall), and Cornish (10).
K13
K15Code:Cornish,50.30,23.15,14.04,5.55,3.93,0.54,0.74,0.06,0.16,0.80,0.56,0.03,0.08
English_Southwest,49.94,23.18,14.24,5.56,3.68,0.66,0.99,0.09,0.26,0.60,0.48,0.13,0.13
Code:Cornish,33.87,30.57,10.15,8.99,9.90,3.54,1.24,0.30,0.42,0.02,0.03,0.48,0.35,0.03,0.05
English_Southwest,36.27,28.18,9.87,8.69,10.24,3.27,1.29,0.47,0.71,0.04,0.08,0.34,0.29,0.10,0.08
updatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Creoda
Zoomed in on Southeast Euro averages in K13
https://i.imgur.com/uo69n0D.png
Please add these HarrapaWorld averages
Code:Moldova_North,0.28,7.97,18.24,43.97,0.34,1.42,0.37,0.26,0.27,0.33,22.19,4.24,0.03,0.02,0.05,0.00
Moldova_Centre,0.76,7.69,19.65,41.28,0.16,1.13,0.58,0.18,0.42,0.51,22.96,4.52,0.04,0.01,0.06,0.05
Moldova_South,0.40,8.27,20.66,37.94,0.14,1.70,0.43,0.35,0.24,0.22,23.86,5.43,0.14,0.14,0.07,0.00
@Lucas plx fixQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Is there any particular way we can somehow highlight the fact that Romanians have more Siberian+E. Asian+Amerindian ? Think you'd need to adjust the weights on those Ks , not sure if that's possible with whatever tools I know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
On a PCA? Non-European shift becomes more evident when you include non-Europeans on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow