Dodecad Ancestry Project

My results Dodecad V3:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European 34.86
2 East_European 25.58
3 Mediterranean 25.26
4 West_Asian 11.27
5 Southwest_Asian 2.04
6 Southeast_Asian 0.61
7 Northeast_Asian 0.33
8 Neo_African 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 3.43
2 Slovenian (Xing) 5.77
3 Balkans (Dodecad) 10.78
4 Romanians_14 (Behar) 14.25
5 German (Dodecad) 18.51
6 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 19.89
7 Polish (Dodecad) 19.98
8 CEU (HapMap) 21.8
9 N._European (Xing) 22.27
10 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 22.79
11 Orcadian (HGDP) 23.53
12 Tuscan (Xing) 23.62
13 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 23.83
14 Tuscan (Henn) 23.93
15 TSI (HapMap) 24.36
16 N_Italian (Dodecad) 25.4
17 Russian (Dodecad) 25.69
18 French (Dodecad) 26.02
19 French (HGDP) 26.45
20 FIN (1000Genomes) 27.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.8% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 1.08
2 94.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.6% Armenians_16 (Behar) @ 1.08
3 94.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.7% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 1.09
4 93.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.8% Turks (Behar) @ 1.2
5 92.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.3% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 1.23
6 95.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 4.8% Georgians (Behar) @ 1.3
7 93.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.33
8 93.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.38
9 93.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 1.41
10 94% Hungarians (Behar) + 6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 1.43
11 94% Hungarians (Behar) + 6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 1.43
12 93.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.6% Kurd (Xing) @ 1.44
13 93.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 1.46
14 93.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.49
15 93.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.6% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 1.5
16 94.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.9% Iranians (Behar) @ 1.54
17 65.8% Slovenian (Xing) + 34.2% Balkans (Dodecad) @ 1.59
18 94.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.3% Adygei (HGDP) @ 1.64
19 94.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.8% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.66
20 93.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.66

K12b
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 45.68
2 Atlantic_Med 26.51
3 Caucasus 20.05
4 Southwest_Asian 3.28
5 Gedrosia 2.99
6 East_Asian 1.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.62
2 German (Dodecad) 12.03
3 Romanians (Behar) 12.1
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.05
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 18.24
7 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 18.37
8 Polish (Dodecad) 18.59
9 Dutch (Dodecad) 19.22
10 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 20.58
11 Swedish (Dodecad) 21.1
12 French (Dodecad) 21.62
13 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 21.78
14 Kent (1000Genomes) 21.87
15 French (HGDP) 21.91
16 English (Dodecad) 22.01
17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 22.25
18 British_Isles (Dodecad) 22.81
19 Belorussian (Behar) 23.57
20 Russian (Dodecad) 23.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.64
2 53.6% Tuscan (HGDP) + 46.4% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.68
3 76.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.86
4 73.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 26.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.9
5 50.9% Tuscan (HGDP) + 49.1% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.92
6 54.5% Belorussian (Behar) + 45.5% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.03
7 57.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 42.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.06
8 51.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 48.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.08
9 57.8% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 42.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.09
10 55% Belorussian (Behar) + 45% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.12
11 58.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 41.6% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.16
12 54.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 45.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.21
13 60.8% Polish (Dodecad) + 39.2% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.23
14 87.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 12.2% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.31
15 57.1% Polish (Dodecad) + 42.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.32
16 50.9% Russian_B (Behar) + 49.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.38
17 60% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 40% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 2.39
18 92.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.4
19 61.8% Polish (Dodecad) + 38.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.45
20 90.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.47

GLOBE 4

92.87% European
6.80% Amerindian
0.18% African
0.15% Asian


GLOBE 13

43.16% North_European
35.99% Mediterranean
12.27% West_Asian
6.03% Southwest_Asian
1.24% Arctic
0.44% Siberian
0.36% South_Asian
0.28% Amerindian
0.20% West_African
0.02% East_Asian
0.00% Australasian
0.00% East_African
0.00% Palaeo_African

Perhaps my Amerindian score in GLOBE 4 is coming from my Asian percentages in GLOBE 13?

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Originally Posted by kamane

Dos anyone know how to jon the project? Does Dienekes accept only "purebreds"?

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you can contact him via his blog, but you dont need to join the project if you are only interested in admixture, as you can then join Gedmatch instead, its easy to use and will give you allot of new info on your data..

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Originally Posted by kamane

Yeah but I'm concerned about calculator effects and you have find Lithuaniansa to compare yourself with. I guess when you are in the project it is simplier, no?

I've emailed Vadim about MDLP. I'm thinking about Fennoscandia as well. The latter don't release any calculators, so you either join or nothing.

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Well, none of the projects with the exception of Fennoscania have released much this year, so i would not hold my breath..the most interesting would be IBD runs, which iknow Eurogenes will do sometime soon, but David is waiting for a new program to be released before he does that run, so he is unsure when it will happen..but i am guessing in July or so..

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Originally Posted by kamane

Thanks. I hope will find some Lith users of gedmatch. There aren't many of them from what I gather.

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There are a few...

Dodecad K12b

1 North_European 49.45
2 Atlantic_Med 29.61
3 Caucasus 9.73
4 Gedrosia 7.61
5 Sub_Saharan 2.32
6 Southeast_Asian 1.28

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German @ 4.804
2 Hungarians @ 8.873
3 Mixed_Germanic @ 11.598
4 Dutch @ 11.912
5 Swedish @ 12.071
6 Norwegian @ 13.023
7 CEU30 @ 14.798
8 English @ 15.068
9 Kent @ 15.309
10 British_Isles @ 15.736
223 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cornwall +50% Ukranians @ 4.714
2 50% Hungarians +50% Norwegian @ 4.761
3 50% German +50% German @ 4.804
4 50% Hungarians +50% Swedish @ 5.013
5 50% French +50% Mordovians @ 5.015
6 50% French +50% Russian @ 5.045
7 50% British +50% Ukranians @ 5.081
8 50% French +50% Mixed_Slav @ 5.081
9 50% French +50% Russian @ 5.127
10 50% French +50% Mixed_Slav @ 5.146
24976 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% German +25% Russian_B @ 3.378
2 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% German +25% Mordovians @ 3.415
3 50% Argyll +25% Lithuanian +25% Romanians @ 3.416
4 50% Argyll +25% Bulgarian +25% Lithuanian @ 3.426
5 50% Argyll +25% Bulgarian +25% Lithuanians @ 3.460
6 50% Argyll +25% Bulgarians +25% Lithuanian @ 3.479
7 50% Kent +25% Hungarians +25% Mordovians @ 3.490
8 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% Hungarians +25% Mixed_Slav @ 3.499
9 50% Argyll +25% Bulgarians +25% Lithuanians @ 3.503
10 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% Hungarians +25% Russian @ 3.517
663329 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hungarians + Kent + Mixed_Germanic + Mordovians @ 3.332
2 Cornwall + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Mordovians @ 3.333
3 CEU30 + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Mordovians @ 3.366
4 English + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Mordovians @ 3.368
5 German + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Russian_B @ 3.378
6 British + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Mordovians @ 3.406
7 German + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mordovians @ 3.415
8 Argyll + Argyll + Lithuanian + Romanians @ 3.416
9 Argyll + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Ukranians @ 3.424
10 Argyll + Argyll + Bulgarian + Lithuanian @ 3.426
11 Cornwall + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Russian_B @ 3.429
12 Argyll + Argyll + Bulgarian + Lithuanians @ 3.460
13 Argyll + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Russian_B @ 3.461
14 Argyll + Argyll + Bulgarians + Lithuanian @ 3.479
15 Dutch + Hungarians + Kent + Mordovians @ 3.485
16 Hungarians + Kent + Kent + Mordovians @ 3.490
17 British_Isles + Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Mordovians @ 3.492
18 Argyll + Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Orcadian @ 3.494
19 Hungarians + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Slav @ 3.499
20 Argyll + Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Orkney @ 3.502

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Originally Posted by kamane

Dos anyone know how to jon the project? Does Dienekes accept only "purebreds"?

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In the past, he has primarily sought those who have 4 grandparents of the same nationality, except for the few times he opened up submission for anybody. I believe the last time was almost 2 years ago. When I joined, I happened on to his website in the evening. He was taking 25 or 30 new participants in an open submission. I sent him my data. Within a few hours the submission was closed. As has been mentioned already, he hasn't done much lately. His last few projects required the participants to run the Dodecad Oracle program themselves.

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Originally Posted by kamane

Thanks. I hope will find some Lith users of gedmatch. There aren't many of them from what I gather.

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You might be better off to contact Vadim Verenich at http://magnusducatus.blogspot.com/. Vadim used to post on ABF, but I haven't seen him there for awhile. His co-administrator, Leon Kull, runs HIR Search (http://hiropractic.snpology.com/22/). You can submit your autosomal dna (23andMe or FTDNA) to him at napobo3@gmail.com.

This is my latest tree, i did some changes this time and highlighted by region for people who have no clue or how to understand this dendrogram..

http://abload.de/img/k12b_mfa_tree_2fhsly.png

1 - Anatolia
2 - Caucasus
3 - Balkans
4 - Western/Central Anatolia
5 - Eastern Anatolia
6 - Armenians
7 - Iranics
8 - Cyprus/Southern Turks (Cilicia)
9 - Western Anatolian Turkomen
10, 11 - Eastern Anatolian Turks
12 - Balkan Turks

Summary;
Altough they are influenced by their neighbours, nearly in all cases they are different than the native/dominant populations around them.. In other words, They are not calling themselves Turk out of blue, they all have connections to each other..

34.74% East_European
39.13% West_European
18.57% Mediterranean
0.00% Neo_African
4.63% West_Asian
0.38% South_Asian
1.12% Northeast_Asian
0.59% Southeast_Asian
0.00% East_African
0.83% Southwest_Asian
0.00% Northwest_African
0.00% Palaeo_African

[1,] "71.9% Mixed_Slav_D + 28.1% Orcadian"
"1.302"
[2,] "28.8% CEU + 71.2% Mixed_Slav_D"
"1.3048"
[3,] "72% Mixed_Slav_D + 28% Orkney_1KG"
"1.3107"
[4,] "72.7% Polish_D + 27.3% N._European"
"1.4072"
[5,] "54.7% Belorussian + 45.3% N._European"
"1.4164"
[6,] "33.8% German_D + 66.2% Mixed_Slav_D"
"1.4444"
[7,] "54.7% Belorussian + 45.3% CEU"
"1.5809"
[8,] "71.4% Mixed_Slav_D + 28.6% Argyll_1KG"
"1.6718"
[9,] "27.2% CEU + 72.8% Polish_D"
"1.6831"
[10,] "71.3% Mixed_Slav_D + 28.7% N._European"
"1.7324"
[11,] "23.4% Dutch_D + 76.6% Mixed_Slav_D"
"1.7569"
[12,] "72.9% Polish_D + 27.1% Argyll_1KG"
"1.7705"
[13,] "54.9% Belorussian + 45.1% Argyll_1KG"
"1.8047"
[14,] "22.4% Kent_1KG + 77.6% Mixed_Slav_D"
"1.8626"
[15,] "32.1% German_D + 67.9% Polish_D"
"1.895"
[16,] "26.5% Orcadian + 73.5% Polish_D"
"1.9179"
[17,] "22.8% Mixed_Germanic_D + 77.2%
Polish_D" "1.9305"
[18,] "26.4% Orkney_1KG + 73.6% Polish_D"
"1.9355"
[19,] "32.5% French_D + 67.5% Russian_D"
"1.9543"
[20,] "21.7% British_D + 78.3% Mixed_Slav_D"
"1.9598"
[21,] "55.6% Belorussian + 44.4% Orcadian"
"1.9895"
[22,] "21.3% Cornwall_1KG + 78.7%
Mixed_Slav_D" "2.0196"
[23,] "22% Dutch_D + 78% Polish_D"
"2.0253"
[24,] "55.7% Belorussian + 44.3% Orkney_1KG"
"2.0549"
[25,] "48.8% Belorussian + 51.2% German_D"
"2.0801"
[26,] "21.9% British_Isles_D + 78.1%
Mixed_Slav_D" "2.0855"
[27,] "32% French + 68% Russian_D"
"2.1653"
[28,] "21% Kent_1KG + 79% Polish_D"
"2.2702"
[29,] "24.1% Mixed_Germanic_D + 75.9%
Mixed_Slav_D" "2.3059"
[30,] "20% Cornwall_1KG + 80% Polish_D"
"2.3816"
[31,] "60.4% Belorussian + 39.6%
Mixed_Germanic_D" "2.4211"
[32,] "20.3% British_D + 79.7% Polish_D"
"2.4412"
[33,] "61.5% Belorussian + 38.5% Dutch_D"
"2.444"
[34,] "23.7% French + 76.3% Mixed_Slav_D"
"2.4607"
[35,] "24.1% French_D + 75.9% Mixed_Slav_D"
"2.4876"
[36,] "20.7% Irish_D + 79.3% Mixed_Slav_D"
"2.547"
[37,] "20.4% British_Isles_D + 79.6% Polish_D"
"2.5823"
[38,] "22.3% French + 77.7% Polish_D"
"2.6936"
[39,] "45.5% French + 54.5% Lithuanian_D"
"2.7043"
[40,] "33.6% Lithuanians + 66.4% Slovenian"
"2.7912"
[41,] "43.1% French + 56.9% Lithuanians"
"2.8691"
[42,] "19.3% Irish_D + 80.7% Polish_D"
"2.8983"
[43,] "62.7% Belorussian + 37.3% Kent_1KG"
"2.9124"
[44,] "27.4% French_Basque + 72.6% Russian_D"
"2.9707"
[45,] "22.5% French_D + 77.5% Polish_D"
"3.0282"
[46,] "46.1% French_D + 53.9% Lithuanian_D"
"3.0723"
[47,] "37.5% CEU + 62.5% Russian_D"
"3.0927"
[48,] "31.4% Lithuanian_D + 68.6% Slovenian"
"3.0975"
[49,] "57.4% Polish_D + 42.6% Slovenian"
"3.1636"
[50,] "64.3% Belorussian + 35.7% Cornwall_1KG"
"3.2249"