Serbian Autosomal DNA

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Originally Posted by Dušan

The only things that unite Dalmatian and NW kajkavian Croats are Catholicism and hate toward Serbs.
In all other things - genetics, phenotype, language, traditions... they are two different worlds.

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Feiichy promoted Dalmatian and Herzegovinian Croatoans as the purest Croatians and descendants of "White Croatians", and for kaykavians she claimed they not related with "White Croatians" at all and they are other Slavs + Celts + Germanics.
Unfortunately for her, Dalmatians and Škutors are closer to general Serbian than to general Croatian average, and from kaykavians they are distant as earth from sky. :)

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Feiichy promoted Dalmatian and Herzegovinian Croatoans as the purest Croatians and descendants of "White Croatians", and for kaykavians she claimed they not related with "White Croatians" at all and they are other Slavs + Celts + Germanics.
Unfortunately for her, Dalmatians and Škutors are closer to general Serbian than to general Croatian average, and from kaykavians they are distant as earth from sky. :)

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And? Could it be that White Croatians were more similar to Serbs than to present day kajkavians?

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Feiichy promoted Dalmatian and Herzegovinian Croatoans as the purest Croatians and descendants of "White Croatians", and for kaykavians she claimed they not related with "White Croatians" at all and they are other Slavs + Celts + Germanics.
Unfortunately for her, Dalmatians and Škutors are closer to general Serbian than to general Croatian average, and from kaykavians they are distant as earth from sky. :)

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Do you think original Serbs were more med than white Croats? They propably were very similiar.
Of course Hercegovian and Dalmatian Croats are going to be more southern than their Northcroatian brethren because they mixed with more southern people when they arrived just as Serbs did. Have you looked at the latitude of mentioned regions? Mostar is just as northern as Northern Bulgaria and central Italy. More Med and low NA is not a Serb trademark.

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Originally Posted by knez01

And? Could it be that White Croatians were more similar to Serbs than to present day kajkavians?

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White Croats were genetically like purer northern Slavs. White Serbs also.
Don't listen to that troll.

Serb average isn't weighted according to population size (for example Serbs from Serbia should be dominating in the average, because they are most numerous), neither they included south shifted Belgrade academic samples.

Southern Croats are not Serb like at all genetically. It's western Serbs who are Croat like, not the opposite.

And ofcourse, without cherrypicked or fake/nonverified samples western Serb average will plot more south than southern Croat one.

Which is visible in their physical look as well as 23andme scores.

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Originally Posted by knez01

And? Could it be that White Croatians were more similar to Serbs than to present day kajkavians?

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Nobody claim Dinaric Croatians, I just say because Est. 1992 promote some genetic purity.
Serbs from SE Serbia (Shopluk) are probably closer to western Bulgarians (from most western part of Bulgaria) than to some other Serbs who are far away from them geographically, still Shopluk Serbs are not Bulgarians and they always were Serbs and not Bulgarians.

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Originally Posted by Ljubic

Do you think original Serbs were more med than white Croats? They propably were very similiar.
Of course Hercegovian and Dalmatian Croats are going to be more southern than their Northcroatian brethren because they mixed with more southern people when they arrived just as Serbs did. Have you looked at the latitude of mentioned regions? Mostar is just as northern as Northern Bulgaria and central Italy. More Med and low NA is not a Serb trademark.

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Yes, Serbs have no native population in central Europe like Croats do.
Original Serbia was more southern land than original Croatia.

Oldest Serb population in Vojvodina came from deep Balkans, from Kosovo.

While Croats of NW and central Croatia are natives in the region since initial Slavic settlement, which is reflected in their scores. They never lived in Balkans or more south than where they live today.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Nobody claim Dinaric Croatians, I just say because Est. 1992 promote some genetic purity.
Serbs from SE Serbia (Shopluk) are probably closer to western Bulgarians (from most western part of Bulgaria) than to some other Serbs who are far away from them geographically, still Shopluk Serbs are not Bulgarians and they always were Serbs and not Bulgarians.

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I don't promote any kind of ''purity'', but it is a historical fact white Croats settled in southern Croatia, not northern one. And user Ph2ter who is from Zagorje agrees with that.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

White Croats were genetically like purer northern Slavs. White Serbs also.
Don't listen to that troll.

Serb average isn't weighted according to population size (for example Serbs from Serbia should be dominating in the average, because they are most numerous), neither they included south shifted Belgrade academic samples.

Southern Croats are not Serb like at all genetically. It's western Serbs who are Croat like, not the opposite.

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False.
The only difference between western and eastern Serb is tiny difference in proportion of Slavic vs paleo-Balkan percentage.
Western Serb average is 60% Slavic & 40% Paleo-Balkan, eastern Serb average is 55% Slavic & 45% paleo-Balkan.

60-40 vs 55-45. No difference.

We are very homogeneous people.


On the other side, Dalmatian Croat average is closer to Bulgarian, than to northern Croat average. :)

Uh huh

Distance to: Croat_Dalmatia

5.64093964 Croat_Zagreb
7.52746969 Croat_Central_Croatia
10.80925992 Bulgarian
10.86513691 Croat_Zagorje