Swedes(and Danes, Norwegians too ofc) are significantly CLOSER to Finns, than to Estonians. I'm sorry but the "mong" in Finns doesn't change anything.
Oh and btw, there is a mentionable number of East Baltids in Scandinavia.
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Karl, your people has been influenced by bats, slavs etc. while Finns have been influenced by OG Uralics. Deal with it.
I've noticed in your past postings that you hold an opinion that nordic phenotype among latvians is because we assimilated finnic livs, but these maps clearly show that east latvians (latgalians) are nordics, but livs never lived in that region... So it's seems like a contradiction for your theory. Could you comment on this?
Balts nor Slavs have ever migrated nor lived in the borders of modern-day Estonia, never. Any person familiar with Northern-Euroepan history ( like me ) knows this. The Slavs and Balts have been influenced by Northern-European Finnics, but not the other way around.
If you start making statements with no proof whatsoever, you go into my ignore list, like that silly east-baltid Finn.
The Livs are the only southern-Finnic people, besides the Estonians, who survived long enough to be mentioned in historical writings, all the other southern-Finnics were assimilated long before by the Balts.
That is what I was trying to convey previously - if the iron age started with at least half of the Baltics as baltic-finnics.
It obviously means that it was even more so before the iron-age.
And the inner core of europeanness cannot have had any extensive influx from out of the core.
If balts cluster together with estonians, not with poles and belarussians, then that core was essentially southern baltic-finnic.
It would conflict with the existence of the europeanness core in the Baltics.
You are also missing something important - the europeanness core is very diverse in haplogroups.
A lot of swedes look a lot like estonians, but not all of them.
Pitted Ware coastal culture was possibly baltic-finnic.
Neanderthal influences in north europeans above that of europeans is a quite recent discovery.
Ditto for the 'amerindian' influences.
I was just trying to note that not all eastern influences are mongolian, not all are samoyedic and not all are finno-ugric.
Much of the influence is very-very old. And recent samoyedic couldn't possibly have a large influence on all baltic-finnics, because of population proportions.
hmm I'm not sure whether you understood me... In your past postings about latvians and livs I've seen , you've claimed that latvians look nordic, because we assimilated livs or at least I've got that impression from your posts. My question is - if that's the case, why are latgalians shown as being of nordic phenotype on all the anthropological maps if livs never lived anywhere near that region (east Latvia)?
Latvians have a lot more Northern-European ancestry than the Lithuanians do. The initial Baltic expansion into this part of Europe bogged down at about modern-day Latvia and the Balts moved northwards during the Great People's movement, started by the Huns. Then after that, Latvia was about evenly split between Finnics and Balts. After that, the remaining Finnics were gradually assimilated, even less Balto-Slavic blood made it to Latvia.
Still, when I look at modern-day Latvians, a large part of them look foreign and "Balto-Slavic"/Eastern-European to me, even with their proved Northern-European/Finnic heritage.