Who, genetically, are the least Slavic of the Slavs?

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Originally Posted by rero

Yes. I believe it's an interesting but also complex topic because big parts of Germany was Slavic territory and big parts of Poland was Germanic territory in the past so some mixing over time was ineveitable. However, if we look at genetics today as much as we can tell from the data that exists, that mixing was not huge and both populations are not very close when viewing whole populations. Western Germany shows no significant Slavic shift while East Germany is Slavic shifted in comparison but still not very close to the Polish average.

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We also already have Early Medieval Germanic and Early Medieval Slavic samples for comparison.

I uploaded to DNA Land the sample KRA001 from Krakauer Berg (Slavic town in Sachsen-Anhalt):

https://www.pz-news.de/weltweit_arti...id,519899.html

^^^ About Krakauer Berg settlement (near present-day Bernburg): "Das Dorf sei im 9. Jahrhundert entstanden - in einer slawischen Gegend. Die Siedlung mit etwa 200 Menschen existierte rund 400 Jahre lang und wurde im 14. Jahrhundert aufgegeben."

https://dna.land/

Sample KRA001 got 80% "North Slavic" in DNA Land:

https://i.imgur.com/jk5v6gz.png

Answer: The country that bore the least baby Genghises.

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Originally Posted by Peterski

My father's aunt (but not related to him by blood - she married into the family) was an autochthonous Pole from Kalsko (Kalzig):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalsko

This is almost at the westernmost end of the ethnic Polish area according to 1910 census, I wonder what her results would be:

Green = Polish majority
Orange = German majority

Kalzig (Kalsko) was mixed, slightly >50% German but with very numerous Poles (according to 1910 census):

https://i.imgur.com/6Xly5Cv.png

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Kalsko and Stołuń were to the west of the pre-war Polish border (red line):

https://i.imgur.com/No5ABef.png

https://i.imgur.com/O30dYAl.png

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Originally Posted by RogueState

There is no Slavic civilization or even culture, it is indeed just a linguistic group

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I agree. Poles and Russians are nothing alike other than in the language family.

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Originally Posted by Chocolate_Hound

I agree. Poles and Russians are nothing alike other than in the language family.

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This is very innacurate. There is genetic continuity between Poland and Russia, this is core of Slavic genetics.

Probably the Macedonians.

Poles are about as pureblood Slav as they come. Moreso than other slavic peoples I would bet.

I would actually be surprised to see a fully Polish person with a drop of any non-Slavic admixture.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

Slovenes are likely the most Slavic of South Slavs

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No, they are in the same percentage proto-Slavic as Serbs, only they have additional Celtic-Germanic component, and smaller percentage paleo-Balkan.

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Originally Posted by Dušan

No, they are in the same percentage proto-Slavic as Serbs, only they have additional Celtic-Germanic component, and smaller percentage paleo-Balkan.

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Not. Slovenians are more Slavic than Serbs. Modeling with Ukrainians and deep south Italians is incorrect. Early Slavs were between Lithuanians and Belarusians, not like Ukrainians.
Neither Serbs have much Paleo Balkan at all according to old outdated models some of you use (and of course they should have plenty)

Thraco-Illyrians were not like Greek Islanders or deep south Italians genetically, even with Romanization.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Thraco-Illyrians were not like Greek Islanders or south Italians genetically, even with Romanization.

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How did they look like, honestly never saw a result? Honestly I was thinking they were very southern like Greek islanders too?