Early Indo-Iranians on Gedmatch

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Toppo900

Which calculator should I use to show you my steppe ancestry?

---

You should try to model your ancestry with Globe25 or ask someone to do it for you, there are no calculators that can accurately detect steppe ancestry.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hadouken

I mean how much relation does it have to this thread . because I noticed that allmost all iranics have some of it at least

mine :

http://up.picr.de/32099843if.jpg

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pahli

I assume Indo-Iranian is Steppe like ancestry while Indus Valley is some kind of Gedrosian admixture.

Makes sense if you get 12% Steppe, I'll post mine:

https://i.imgur.com/Y2eM6P5.png

But it doesn't make sense, I get 24% Indo-Iranian??? Something doesn't match up here, I generally don't like DNA.land because of its bad results

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Babak

Indo iranian is south asian. You are 24% steppe bro

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk

---

Indo-Iranian is neither steppe nor proper South Asian, but based off of Balochi. Indus Valley is based off of Pakistani Pashtuns and Kalash/Burusho

This makes a lot of sense.
North Swedes doesn't have as high Yamnaya admixture as Highland Scots and Irish or West Norwegians, but they do have a fair amount and higher amount of ANE, this is from non-Yamnaya admixture as well as from Yamnaya admixture.
Anyway, i think it is the same case with the Early Indo Iranians as well.

Also you can see North Caucasian populations in the Mixed Mode Population Sharing, i think it is to make up for the rest of the Yamnaya admixture.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Babak

Andronovo:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 55.73
2 West_Asia 17.68
3 SW_Europe 17.59
4 South_Asia 4.08
5 Siberia 2.47
6 Americas 2.4
7 Oceania 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mordovian 10.44
2 Russian 12.06
3 Belarusian 13.22
4 Ukrainian 13.46
5 Polish 13.99
6 Estonian 16.06
7 Slovak 16.19
8 German_North 16.64
9 Lithuanian 16.76
10 Latvian 16.94
11 Swedish 17.14
12 Norwegian 17.21
13 Moldavian 17.91
14 Slovene 18.04
15 Tatar 18.27
16 Hungarian 19.13
17 Irish 19.81
18 Utahn_European 20.09
19 Scottish 20.11
20 Orcadian 20.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.8% Lithuanian + 26.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.71
2 70.4% Latvian + 29.6% Tadjik @ 4.77
3 70.7% Lithuanian + 29.3% Tadjik @ 4.79
4 73.6% Latvian + 26.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.79
5 74.8% Estonian + 25.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.98
6 74.8% Lithuanian + 25.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 5.1
7 74.6% Latvian + 25.4% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 5.16
8 71.8% Estonian + 28.2% Tadjik @ 5.22
9 75.5% Lithuanian + 24.5% Pathan @ 5.25
10 75.8% Estonian + 24.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 5.34
11 77.5% Lithuanian + 22.5% Balochi @ 5.4
12 75.3% Latvian + 24.7% Pathan @ 5.4
13 76.4% Estonian + 23.6% Pathan @ 5.41
14 77.3% Latvian + 22.7% Balochi @ 5.45
15 78.1% Lithuanian + 21.9% Brahui @ 5.49
16 77.9% Latvian + 22.1% Brahui @ 5.56
17 77.9% Lithuanian + 22.1% Makrani @ 5.63
18 78.4% Estonian + 21.6% Balochi @ 5.66
19 79% Estonian + 21% Brahui @ 5.74
20 78.8% Estonian + 21.2% Makrani @ 5.78


Scythian:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 47.19
2 West_Asia 24.04
3 SW_Europe 13.65
4 Siberia 6.75
5 South_Asia 3.11
6 Americas 3.02
7 NE_Asia 1.25
8 SE_Asia 0.98

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tatar 13.67
2 Chuvash 18.02
3 Mordovian 18.65
4 Moldavian 20.39
5 Ukrainian 20.91
6 Slovak 21.29
7 Russian 21.49
8 Aluet 22
9 Slovene 22.5
10 Belarusian 22.63
11 Bosnian 22.88
12 Hungarian 23.42
13 German_North 23.45
14 Croatian 24.21
15 Polish 24.37
16 Romanian 24.4
17 Serbian 24.51
18 Montenegrin 25.27
19 Norwegian 25.31
20 Scottish 25.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.3% Mordovian + 37.7% Tadjik @ 7.16
2 51.8% Latvian + 48.2% Tadjik @ 7.24
3 51.9% Lithuanian + 48.1% Tadjik @ 7.38
4 58.5% Russian + 41.5% Tadjik @ 7.41
5 67.8% Mordovian + 32.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 7.44
6 50.3% Tadjik + 49.7% Finnish @ 7.58
7 50.8% Chechen + 49.2% Finnish @ 7.66
8 52.7% Estonian + 47.3% Tadjik @ 7.72
9 70.3% Mordovian + 29.7% Pathan @ 7.93
10 69.6% Mordovian + 30.4% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 8.08
11 64.4% Russian + 35.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 8.18
12 73.7% Mordovian + 26.3% Makrani @ 8.21
13 73.2% Mordovian + 26.8% Balochi @ 8.25
14 74% Mordovian + 26% Brahui @ 8.3
15 62.3% Mordovian + 37.7% Chechen @ 8.39
16 55.2% Polish + 44.8% Tadjik @ 8.43
17 50.2% Kumyk + 49.8% Finnish @ 8.44
18 55.7% Finnish + 44.3% Dagestan_Azeri @ 8.53
19 53.7% Finnish + 46.3% Adygei @ 8.73
20 67% Russian + 33% Pathan @ 8.81

---

Andronovans seem to be similar to me

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cossack_Zaporozhie @ 10.835595
2 Belarusian_East_EastBelarus @ 11.850058
3 Ukrainians_north_NorthUkraine @ 12.070934
4 Belarusian_West_WestBelarus @ 12.210099
5 Russian_SouthRussia @ 12.622813
6 Mishar-Tatar_Mordovia @ 12.926311
7 Russian_CentralRussia @ 12.958581
8 Russian_Tver @ 13.056159
9 Russian_cossack_Kuban @ 13.101100
10 Cossack_Kuban @ 13.102342
11 Pole_Wroclaw @ 13.282867
12 Ukrainian_Ukraine @ 13.439185
13 Ukrainians_east_EastUkraine @ 13.492621
14 Erzya_Moksha_Mordovia @ 13.546583
15 Dane_Denmark @ 13.601009
16 Pole_Poland @ 13.623476
17 Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest @ 13.788994
18 Belarusian_Belarus @ 13.982770
19 Czech_Czechia @ 13.995476
20 Pole_EastPoland @ 14.020331

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Latvian_Dobele_Dobele +50% Yaghnobi_Zarafshan @ 5.548567


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian_Belarus +25% Pashtun_Pakistan +25% Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.440655

Least-squares method.


puntDNAL K12 Ancient

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 @ 7.223065
2 Srubnaya_I0430 @ 7.299742
3 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 8.588803
4 Potapovka_I0419 @ 8.666283
5 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 @ 8.681982
6 Srubnaya_I0232 @ 9.751555
7 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 10.266750
8 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 10.840664
9 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 10.953977
10 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 11.032297
11 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 13.007627
12 Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 13.453195
13 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 13.946106
14 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 @ 14.313983
15 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 @ 14.779659
16 Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 15.065624
17 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 15.547799
18 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 15.582636
19 Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 @ 19.016632
20 Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 @ 22.365128

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Alberstedt_LN_I0118 +50% Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Alberstedt_LN_I0118 +25% Scythian_IA_I0247 +25% Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++
1 Potapovka_I0419 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.928871
2 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962
3 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.014722
4 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.116191
5 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.123157

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Arhat

Andronovans seem to be similar to me

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cossack_Zaporozhie @ 10.835595
2 Belarusian_East_EastBelarus @ 11.850058
3 Ukrainians_north_NorthUkraine @ 12.070934
4 Belarusian_West_WestBelarus @ 12.210099
5 Russian_SouthRussia @ 12.622813
6 Mishar-Tatar_Mordovia @ 12.926311
7 Russian_CentralRussia @ 12.958581
8 Russian_Tver @ 13.056159
9 Russian_cossack_Kuban @ 13.101100
10 Cossack_Kuban @ 13.102342
11 Pole_Wroclaw @ 13.282867
12 Ukrainian_Ukraine @ 13.439185
13 Ukrainians_east_EastUkraine @ 13.492621
14 Erzya_Moksha_Mordovia @ 13.546583
15 Dane_Denmark @ 13.601009
16 Pole_Poland @ 13.623476
17 Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest @ 13.788994
18 Belarusian_Belarus @ 13.982770
19 Czech_Czechia @ 13.995476
20 Pole_EastPoland @ 14.020331

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Latvian_Dobele_Dobele +50% Yaghnobi_Zarafshan @ 5.548567


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian_Belarus +25% Pashtun_Pakistan +25% Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.440655

Least-squares method.


puntDNAL K12 Ancient

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 @ 7.223065
2 Srubnaya_I0430 @ 7.299742
3 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 8.588803
4 Potapovka_I0419 @ 8.666283
5 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 @ 8.681982
6 Srubnaya_I0232 @ 9.751555
7 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 10.266750
8 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 10.840664
9 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 10.953977
10 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 11.032297
11 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 13.007627
12 Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 13.453195
13 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 13.946106
14 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 @ 14.313983
15 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 @ 14.779659
16 Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 15.065624
17 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 15.547799
18 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 15.582636
19 Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 @ 19.016632
20 Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 @ 22.365128

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Alberstedt_LN_I0118 +50% Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Alberstedt_LN_I0118 +25% Scythian_IA_I0247 +25% Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++
1 Potapovka_I0419 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.928871
2 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 3.982962
3 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.014722
4 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.116191
5 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.123157
6 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.128452
7 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Poltavka_I0440 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.134131
8 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.163544
9 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.169954
10 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.194356
11 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.200688
12 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Scythian_IA_I0247 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.201467
13 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 + Poltavka_I0440 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.202596
14 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 + Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 + Srubnaya_I0430 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.224353
15 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.238539
16 Yamnaya_Samara_I0231 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.244189
17 Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Unetice_EBA_I0117 + Yamnaya_Kalmykia_SG_RISE552 + Kostenki14_UP_SG @ 4.254797
18 Potapovka_I0419 + Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + Alberstedt_LN_I0118 + Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 4.257424

---

Yea i remember you are half pashtun

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by whatamidoinghere

This makes a lot of sense.
North Swedes doesn't have as high Yamnaya admixture as Highland Scots and Irish or West Norwegians, but they do have a fair amount and higher amount of ANE, this is from non-Yamnaya admixture as well as from Yamnaya admixture.
Anyway, i think it is the same case with the Early Indo Iranians as well.

Also you can see North Caucasian populations in the Mixed Mode Population Sharing, i think it is to make up for the rest of the Yamnaya admixture.

---

recently, Anatolian-farmer related ancestry was found in Yamnaya, too.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Token

Kashkarchi_BA

1 Baltic 37.39
2 North_Atlantic 35.93
3 West_Asian 17.85
4 South_Asian 4.85
5 Amerindian 3.97

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 17.15
(...)

---

Amazing! Uzbekistan still has a Polish minority of over 5,000 people today!:

https://www.rosjapl.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6745

http://www.bip.udskior.gov.pl/Pielgr...tanie,365.html

So ancient DNA shows, that Poles have been living in Uzbekistan since the Bronze Age! This sample of Andronovo culture from the Ferghana Valley (Kashkarchi BA) resembles modern Southern Poles, interestingly already inscriptions from Penjikent Murals mentioned the ancient Indo-European kingdom known as Polouna (the name strikingly similar to Poland!) located in Ferghana Valley in Uzbekistan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panjakent

Eurogenes K13 (GEDmatch kit: Z596095):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.77
2 North_Atlantic 34.33
3 West_Asian 19.42
4 South_Asian 7.85
5 Amerindian 2.42
6 Oceanian 0.61
7 Siberian 0.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 18.64
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.17
3 Hungarian 19.26
4 North_Swedish 19.28
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.39
6 East_German 19.63
7 Polish 19.7
8 Southwest_Finnish 20.07
9 Austrian 20.18
10 Ukrainian 20.18
11 Croatian 20.44
12 North_German 20.44
13 Southwest_Russian 20.49
14 Russian_Smolensk 20.65
15 Swedish 20.69
16 Moldavian 21.15
17 Finnish 21.21
18 Kargopol_Russian 21.56
19 Belorussian 21.84
20 Estonian_Polish 22.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.1% Southwest_Finnish + 25.9% Balochi @ 8.65
2 72.1% North_Swedish + 27.9% Kalash @ 8.86
3 74.8% Southwest_Finnish + 25.2% Brahui @ 8.87
4 75.3% North_Swedish + 24.7% Balochi @ 9.14
5 71.3% Southwest_Finnish + 28.7% Kalash @ 9.17
6 76% North_Swedish + 24% Brahui @ 9.32
7 68.8% Southwest_Finnish + 31.2% Afghan_Pashtun @ 9.61
8 66% Southwest_Finnish + 34% Tabassaran @ 9.64
9 69.9% North_Swedish + 30.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 9.65
10 74.8% Southwest_Finnish + 25.2% Makrani @ 9.75
11 67.2% North_Swedish + 32.8% Tabassaran @ 9.78
12 73.4% Finnish + 26.6% Balochi @ 10
13 76% North_Swedish + 24% Makrani @ 10.14
14 74.1% Finnish + 25.9% Brahui @ 10.25
15 73.9% North_Swedish + 26.1% Pathan @ 10.34
16 69.3% North_Swedish + 30.7% Lezgin @ 10.47
17 68.1% Southwest_Finnish + 31.9% Lezgin @ 10.61
18 72.5% Estonian + 27.5% Balochi @ 10.64
19 74.2% North_Swedish + 25.8% Burusho @ 10.66
20 73.8% North_Swedish + 26.2% Punjabi_Jat @ 10.68

4-Ancestors Oracle:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_Finnish +50% Tabassaran @ 14.463137

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +25% Kalash +25% Norwegian @ 9.119610

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Balochi + Estonian + La_Brana-1 + Norwegian @ 8.370392
2 Balochi + Estonian + La_Brana-1 + Swedish @ 8.432461
3 Balochi + La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 8.480879
4 Balochi + Finnish + La_Brana-1 + Norwegian @ 8.552832
5 Balochi + Finnish + La_Brana-1 + Swedish @ 8.559880
6 Balochi + Estonian + Finnish + Norwegian @ 8.569458
7 Balochi + Finnish + Finnish + Norwegian @ 8.593864
8 Brahui + Estonian + La_Brana-1 + Norwegian @ 8.629576
9 Balochi + La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian + Swedish @ 8.667940
10 Balochi + Finnish + Finnish + Swedish @ 8.683908
11 Balochi + Estonian + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 8.691397
12 Brahui + Estonian + La_Brana-1 + Swedish @ 8.698501
13 Balochi + Estonian + Finnish + Swedish @ 8.719524
14 Balochi + Estonian + Estonian + Norwegian @ 8.737104
15 Brahui + La_Brana-1 + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 8.754449
16 Balochi + Lithuanian + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 8.761224
17 Balochi + La_Brana-1 + Southwest_Finnish + Swedish @ 8.806540
18 Balochi + Finnish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 8.806760
19 Balochi + Estonian + Southwest_Finnish + Swedish @ 8.817391
20 Balochi + La_Brana-1 + North_Swedish + Southwest_Finnish @ 8.825765

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Myanthropologies

recently, Anatolian-farmer related ancestry was found in Yamnaya, too.

---

But coming from an farmer group rich in WHG though. Likely from the neighbouring European farmers of GAC or Trypillia.

I got mad high steppe yo

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Eggyolk

I got mad high steppe yo

---

https://i.imgur.com/hnyJwCg.png