Got my G25. What next?

Uzbek vs Pakis and Palis:

Target: GR_scaled Distance: 1.2347% / 0.01234733 Aggregated
55.0	Mordovian
20.0	Palestinian
15.4	Uzbek
4.0	PAK_Singoor_MA
3.0	PAK_Loebanr_IA
2.6	PAK_Udegram_IA
0.0	PAK_Aligrama_H
0.0	PAK_Aligrama_IA
0.0	PAK_Arkotkila_IA
0.0	PAK_Barikot_H
0.0	PAK_Barikot_IA
0.0	PAK_Barikot_MA
0.0	PAK_Butkara_H
0.0	PAK_Butkara_IA
0.0	PAK_Gogdara_IA
0.0	PAK_Katelai_IA
0.0	PAK_Loebanr_IA_o
0.0	PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
0.0	PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
0.0	PAK_Udegram_MA_Ghaznavid

Uzbek vs Pakis vs Sayyed Irani:

Target: GR_scaled Distance: 1.5200% / 0.01519995 Aggregated
54.6	Mordovian
31.0	Iranian_Seyyed
14.4	Uzbek
0.0	PAK_Aligrama_H
0.0	PAK_Aligrama_IA
0.0	PAK_Arkotkila_IA
0.0	PAK_Barikot_H
0.0	PAK_Barikot_IA
0.0	PAK_Barikot_MA
0.0	PAK_Butkara_H
0.0	PAK_Butkara_IA
0.0	PAK_Gogdara_IA
0.0	PAK_Katelai_IA
0.0	PAK_Loebanr_IA
0.0	PAK_Loebanr_IA_o
0.0	PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
0.0	PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
0.0	PAK_Singoor_MA
0.0	PAK_Udegram_IA
0.0	PAK_Udegram_MA_Ghaznavid

Uzbek vs Pakis vs Iranian Sayyed vs Iranian Jew:


Target: GR_scaled
Distance: 1.2578% / 0.01257793
Aggregated
54.6Mordovian
21.4Iranian_Jew
17.4Uzbek
6.6PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
0.0PAK_Aligrama_H
0.0PAK_Aligrama_I
0.0PAK_Arkotkila_IA
0.0PAK_Barikot_H
0.0PAK_Barikot_IA
0.0PAK_Barikot_MA
0.0PAK_Butkara_H
0.0PAK_Butkara_IA
0.0PAK_Gogdara_IA
0.0PAK_Katelai_IA
0.0PAK_Loebanr_IA
0.0PAK_Loebanr_IA_o
0.0PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
0.0PAK_Singoor_MA
0.0PAK_Udegram_IA
0.0PAK_Udegram_MA_Ghaznavid


Uzbek vs Pakis vs Iran Zoroastrian vs Iran Fars:


Target: GR_scaled
Distance: 1.4179% / 0.01417896
Aggregated
54.8Mordovian
26.6Iranian_Fars
15.6Uzbek
2.2Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.6PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
0.2PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
0.0PAK_Aligrama_H
0.0PAK_Aligrama_IA
0.0PAK_Arkotkila_IA
0.0PAK_Barikot_H
0.0PAK_Barikot_IA
0.0PAK_Barikot_MA
0.0PAK_Butkara_H
0.0PAK_Butkara_IA
0.0PAK_Gogdara_IA
0.0PAK_Katelai_I
0.0PAK_Loebanr_IA
0.0PAK_Loebanr_IA_o
0.0PAK_Singoor_MA
0.0PAK_Udegram_IA
0.0PAK_Udegram_MA_Ghaznavid

Deleted all pakis. They are useless here

Uzbek vs Armenian vs Fars and Zoroastrian Iranians

Target: GR_scaled Distance: 1.3403% / 0.01340289 Aggregated
53.8	Mordovian
17.6	Uzbek
17.2	Iranian_Fars
11.4	Armenian
0.0	Armenian_Hemsheni
0.0	Iranian_Zoroastrian

Uzbek vs Iranians Fars/Zoroastrian vs Turkish central:

Target: GR_scaled Distance: 1.2377% / 0.01237656 Aggregated
52.0	Mordovian
19.4	Turkish_Central
14.8	Uzbek
13.6	Iranian_Fars
0.2	Iranian_Zoroastrian

Uzbek vs Turkish central vs Iranians Fars/Zoroastrian vs Syrians:

Target: GR_scaled Distance: 1.0268% / 0.01026786 Aggregated
52.0	Mordovian
17.2	Uzbek
14.0	Syrian
7.4	Iranian_Zoroastrian
5.6	Iranian_Fars
3.8	Turkish_Central

Since 23andme doesnt have north caucasian references, here is what happens:

“I’m half North Ossetian and my results came up as 42% Western Asia (Turkish)”

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Originally Posted by Bakha

2,6 + Penza oblast. Mostly volgan region

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When checking for your ancient (Neolithic) ancestry, it seems like you get some Natufian (Neolithic Levantine) which isn't something that really happens with other Central Asians. It seems like there's additional MENA-input into Bukhara from West Asians. I still think your Bukharan Uzbek father is typical for Uzbeks from Bukhara, so whatever applies to him probably applies to Bukharans as a whole. Its not that much, but still kinda unusual because one would expect it to be 0. You can make whatever conclusion from it you want.

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Target: Bakha
Distance: 4.9253% / 0.04925307
Aggregated
34.4 Anatolia_NF
24.2 Eastern_HG
11.2 Caucasus_HG
10.0 East_Eurasian
7.2 Iran_NF
6.4 Baltic_HG
3.2 Levant_NF
3.2 South_Eurasian
0.2 SSA

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When modeling you with Syrian (Syrian Arab + Syrian Jew), your fit also improved considerably:

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Target: Bakha
Distance: 2.2507% / 0.02250710
Aggregated
44.6 Russian
20.8 Syrian
17.6 Tajik
17.0 Uzbek

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If there's additional MENA input into Samarkand-Bukhara, then its probably the same case for the Tajik and Uzbek communities of North Afghanistan. Since Davidski has samples of them, maybe he can upload it to G25. Then it would improve your modeling.

I used Syrian above because Tajiks have some Iranian ancestry and thought it would be a good indicator of excess MENA ancestry. But I tried another run with both Syrians and Iranians:

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Target: Bakha
Distance: 2.2371% / 0.02237125
Aggregated
46.6 Russian
21.6 Uzbek
15.8 Syrian
10.8 Iranian_Fars
5.2 Tajik

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Now another one without Syrians (weirdly enough no Tajik was picked up):

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Target: Bakha
Distance: 2.4580% / 0.02457957
Aggregated
49.0 Russian
27.8 Iranian_Fars
23.2 Uzbek

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Notice that when West Asian populations are used, your fit improves a whole lot. Since Bukhara and Samarkand were considered very important cities during the Iranian Intermezzo, my guess is Bukharans and Samarkandis just have excess Iranian ancestry. It'd be interesting to see if how similar your Bukharan side is to the North Afghanistani Uzbeks if Davidski uploads them.

Also, if you don't mind, can you share your HarappaWorld results?

Can anyone run this model for me?

Bakhas results
Aggregated
34.4 Anatolia_NF
24.2 Eastern_HG
11.2 Caucasus_HG
10.0 East_Eurasian
7.2 Iran_NF
6.4 Baltic_HG
3.2 Levant_NF
3.2 South_Eurasian
0.2 SSA



My G25


,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
yo_scaled,0.126344,0.114755,0.056568,0.04522,0.030 467,0.019243,0.00564,-0.002308,-0.00634,-0.014761,-0.002598,-0.010041,0.016353,0.015689,-0.018865,0.010607,0.021905,-0.004941,-0.00729,0.004377,0.004118,-0.003339,0.004807,-0.00012,-0.006826

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
yo,0.0111,0.0113,0.015,0.014,0.0099,0.0069,0.0024,-0.001,-0.0031,-0.0081,-0.0016,-0.0067,0.011,0.0114,-0.0139,0.008,0.0168,-0.0039,-0.0058,0.0035,0.0033,-0.0027,0.0039,-0.0001,-0.0057

Ok here is my result based on all modern averages:

Target: GR_scaled Distance: 1.2044% / 0.01204382 Aggregated
26.2	Turkish_Azer
25.6	Russian_Smolensk
10.2	Lithuanian
8.8	Spanish_Asturias
6.8	Chuvash
5.8	Kalash
4.8	Tatar_Lipka
3.6	Balochi
3.0	Eskimo_Sireniki
1.8	Lebbo
1.6	Koryak
0.6	Dinka
0.4	Oroqen
0.4	Yoruba
0.2	Brahui
0.2	Igorot

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Originally Posted by Mingle

When checking for your ancient (Neolithic) ancestry, it seems like you get some Natufian (Neolithic Levantine) which isn't something that really happens with other Central Asians. It seems like there's additional MENA-input into Bukhara from West Asians. I still think your Bukharan Uzbek father is typical for Uzbeks from Bukhara, so whatever applies to him probably applies to Bukharans as a whole. Its not that much, but still kinda unusual because one would expect it to be 0. You can make whatever conclusion from it you want.



When modeling you with Syrian (Syrian Arab + Syrian Jew), your fit also improved considerably:



If there's additional MENA input into Samarkand-Bukhara, then its probably the same case for the Tajik and Uzbek communities of North Afghanistan. Since Davidski has samples of them, maybe he can upload it to G25. Then it would improve your modeling.

I used Syrian above because Tajiks have some Iranian ancestry and thought it would be a good indicator of excess MENA ancestry. But I tried another run with both Syrians and Iranians:



Now another one without Syrians (weirdly enough no Tajik was picked up):



Notice that when West Asian populations are used, your fit improves a whole lot. Since Bukhara and Samarkand were considered very important cities during the Iranian Intermezzo, my guess is Bukharans and Samarkandis just have excess Iranian ancestry. It'd be interesting to see if how similar your Bukharan side is to the North Afghanistani Uzbeks if Davidski uploads them.

Also, if you don't mind, can you share your HarappaWorld results?

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Population S-Indian 3.47 Pct Baloch 12.70 Pct Caucasian 19.47 Pct NE-Euro 32.23 Pct SE-Asian 0.89 Pct Siberian 5.93 Pct NE-Asian 3.18 Pct Papuan 0.32 Pct American 1.15 Pct Beringian 1.11 Pct Mediterranean 13.53 Pct SW-Asian 5.04 Pct San 0.26 Pct E-African 0.72 Pct Pygmy - W-African - <form method="post" action="https://www.gedmatch.com/oracle2.php"> </form> <form method="post" action="https://www.gedmatch.com/pca1.php"> </form>

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Originally Posted by Bakha

Population S-Indian 3.47 Pct Baloch 12.70 Pct Caucasian 19.47 Pct NE-Euro 32.23 Pct SE-Asian 0.89 Pct Siberian 5.93 Pct NE-Asian 3.18 Pct Papuan 0.32 Pct American 1.15 Pct Beringian 1.11 Pct Mediterranean 13.53 Pct SW-Asian 5.04 Pct San 0.26 Pct E-African 0.72 Pct Pygmy - W-African - <form method="post" action="https://www.gedmatch.com/oracle2.php"> </form> <form method="post" action="https://www.gedmatch.com/pca1.php"> </form>

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Samarkandi Tajik:

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 21.15
2 Baloch 19.77
3 NE-Asian 14.42
4 NE-Euro 13.64
5 Siberian 10.3
6 S-Indian 7.17
7 SW-Asian 4.86
8 Mediterranean 2.96
9 SE-Asian 2.75
10 American 1.88
11 W-African 1.02
12 Beringian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 uzbek (behar) 10.75
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.5
3 tajik (yunusbayev) 14.58
4 hazara (hgdp) 17.51
5 uyghur (hgdp) 17.52
6 nogai (yunusbayev) 17.83
7 pashtun (harappa) 22.67
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 23.45
9 romanian-b (behar) 25.02
10 stalskoe (xing) 25.04
11 iranian (harappa) 26.02
12 turkish (harappa) 26.94
13 iranian (behar) 27.03
14 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 27.26
15 azeri (harappa) 27.33
16 kurd (harappa) 27.4
17 kumyk (yunusbayev) 27.61
18 kazakh (harappa) 27.66
19 burusho (hgdp) 28.13
20 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 28.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.5% uzbek (behar) + 45.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 4.68
2 59.4% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 40.6% uyghur (hgdp) @ 5.01
3 73.8% uzbek (behar) + 26.2% iranian (behar) @ 5.21
4 74.4% uzbek (behar) + 25.6% kurd (harappa) @ 5.52
5 70.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 29.1% kazakh (harappa) @ 5.74
6 60% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 40% hazara (hgdp) @ 6.02
7 73.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 26.1% kyrgyz (hodoglugil) @ 6.14
8 78.3% uzbek (behar) + 21.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 6.16
9 76.7% uzbek (behar) + 23.3% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 6.25
10 75% uzbek (behar) + 25% turkish (harappa) @ 6.28
11 59.7% hazara (hgdp) + 40.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 6.29
12 71.4% uzbek (behar) + 28.6% pashtun (harappa) @ 6.3
13 60.2% uzbek (behar) + 39.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 6.31
14 75.4% uzbek (behar) + 24.6% azeri (harappa) @ 6.32
15 73.7% uzbek (behar) + 26.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 6.37
16 73.8% uzbek (behar) + 26.2% romanian-b (behar) @ 6.47
17 80.7% uzbek (behar) + 19.3% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 6.58
18 77.8% uzbek (behar) + 22.2% lezgin (behar) @ 6.59
19 77.2% uzbek (behar) + 22.8% urkarah (xing) @ 6.66
20 81.3% uzbek (behar) + 18.7% iranian-jew (behar) @ 6.72

Is around 25% East Eurasian. You get ~10% East Eurasian. This is probably mainly cause you're half-Russian, but keeping in mind that Russians (especially Volga Russians) get some EE, your father is probably 15-20% EE which is in the Tajikistani Tajik range.

Also, your Med seems very high, and your SW Asian is also a bit higher than average. You have almost 10% more Med than the Samarkandi. Your father may or may not be a typical Bukhara Uzbek, but have you have tried asking him if there's any recent non-Uzbek/Turkic ancestry in your family?

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Originally Posted by Daos777

Can anyone run this model for me?

My G25


,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
yo_scaled,0.126344,0.114755,0.056568,0.04522,0.030 467,0.019243,0.00564,-0.002308,-0.00634,-0.014761,-0.002598,-0.010041,0.016353,0.015689,-0.018865,0.010607,0.021905,-0.004941,-0.00729,0.004377,0.004118,-0.003339,0.004807,-0.00012,-0.006826

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
yo,0.0111,0.0113,0.015,0.014,0.0099,0.0069,0.0024,-0.001,-0.0031,-0.0081,-0.0016,-0.0067,0.011,0.0114,-0.0139,0.008,0.0168,-0.0039,-0.0058,0.0035,0.0033,-0.0027,0.0039,-0.0001,-0.0057

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Target: yo
Distance: 5.9599% / 0.05959872
Aggregated
42.6 Anatolia_NF
29.4 Eastern_HG
15.4 Baltic_HG
12.0 Caucasus_HG
0.6 South_Eurasian

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Target: yo
Distance: 5.9599% / 0.05959872
Aggregated
42.6Anatolia_NF
29.4Eastern_HG
15.4Baltic_HG
12.0Caucasus_HG
0.6South_Eurasian

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Thanks man.

That fucking south Eurasian just had to pop up with its .6 percent lmao.




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