Northern Europeans Differ from Southern Europeans

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Originally Posted by Smeagol

Race is biological, not cultural. They've been considered white since colonial times here anyway. They aren't very culturally Middle Eastern at all though. Most are secular and if asked where their ancestors come from will say Russia, Poland, Germany, etc..

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Whiteness is also a cultural thing, not only biological. As a white nationalist, you should know damn well why the Jews are generally excluded. They don't feel close to Europe, moreover many have resentments toward European Christians. I don't really wanna start this JQ debate again. Yes, phenotypically they pass as white and genetically they are as white as Southern Italians and Greek Islanders, but other than that the Jews are a thing of its own. They divide humanity into Jews and Gentiles first and foremost, not into whites, blacks, etc.

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Originally Posted by Leto

They are not Christian and identify with a Near Eastern country as their historical homeland.

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We aren't Christians, true.
But nether are millions of white atheists and agnostics in the USA, does that disqualify them from being white?
My homeland is the USA, the ancient homeland of the Israelites was in the Levant.
Ashkenazi Jews have strong genetic, cultural and linguistic ties to Europe.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Not really. Assyrians have no Negro blood, neither do they have much South Asian blood. I'm poorly familiar with Assyrians in real life but since they are genetically close to Armenians, I'm sure there are many light-skinned Assyrians as well.

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They can have Martian blood if you want, yet they are brown like the shit.

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Originally Posted by AK-47

We aren't Christians, true.
But nether are millions of white atheists and agnostics in the USA, does that disqualify them from being white?

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Well, they are 'cultural Christians' or at least belong to historically Christian nations.

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My homeland is the USA, the ancient homeland of the Israelites was in the Levant.
Ashkenazi Jews have strong genetic, cultural and linguistic ties to Europe.

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Good for you. You are assimilated. I'm not saying the Jews are a biologically different race or anything like that.

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Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

They can have Martian blood if you want, yet they are brown like the shit.

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You're really dumb and stubborn. I almost never see you admitting that you're wrong. :picard1:

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Originally Posted by Leto

Whiteness is also a cultural thing, not only biological. As a white nationalist, you should know damn well why the Jews are generally excluded. They don't feel close to Europe, moreover many have resentments toward European Christians. I don't really wanna start this JQ debate again. Yes, phenotypically they pass as white and genetically they are as white as Southern Italians and Greek Islanders, but other than that the Jews are a thing of its own. They divide humanity into Jews and Gentiles first and foremost, not in whites, blacks, etc.

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I have never called myself a white nationalist.
If whiteness is a cultural thing, Jews have always been part of that in America. They were considered white people from the beginning, so they've never had to pass as anything here. Americans in general don't feel close to Europe, and religious American Jews support Israel for religious reasons, same as white Evangelical Christians. They don't view themselves as Middle Eastern. The majority of Americans don't even view the Jews as an ethnic group.

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Originally Posted by Leto

You're really dumb and stubborn. I almost never see you admitting that you're wrong. :picard1:

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Wrong?? and am I the dumb?? 99% of them are brown as fuck. If you are blind is not my problem but dont come to my discussions neither.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Well, they are 'cultural Christians' or at least belong to historically Christian nations.

Good for you. You are assimilated. I'm not saying the Jews are a biologically different race or anything like that.

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Ashkenazi Jews are lighter than Sicilians on average and tend to pass as white in the US.

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You were saying we tend to "pass" as white.
That is so far out of the mainstream, that I could only guess that you must be a white nationalist on some level.
It was a telling post, and bizarre to most Americans that don't live on a Neo-Nazi compound in Idaho...

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Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

They can have Martian blood if you want, yet they are brown like the shit.

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They look like Armenians, some can be very light well some can be very swarthy. Not that I care to be honest, but this just shows that majority of us are not Arabized because we look like Saudis and so on. Do you think they look more like Euros or Saudis?

https://www.google.ca/search?biw=136...Y2t1Co#imgrc=_

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Originally Posted by AK-47

You were saying we tend to "pass" as white.
That is so far out of the mainstream, that I could only guess that you must be a white nationalist on some level.
It was a telling post, and bizarre to most Americans that don't live on a Neo-Nazi compound in Idaho...

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What's wrong with white nationalism? Is it a crime to be one? No, I'm not exactly a WN, but I do share a few points with them and understand their concerns. I've been in alt-right circles for a while. I'm not a Neo-Nazi or anything like that but I'm not a full-blown civic 'nationalist' either. Ethnicity does matter.