Pontic Greek Gedmatch results

Mytrueancestry closest genetic modern population

1. Greek_Azov (7.913)
2. Turk (8.548)
3. Turkish (10.56)
4. Greek_Cretan (14.00)
5. Azeri (14.55)
6. Lebanese (15.08)
7. Jew-Uzbekistan (15.21)
8. Jew_Syria (15.25)

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Originally Posted by Roman-Anatolian

So is Gedmatch accurate or does it depend on the DNA company from which I will transfer my kit?

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It's fine, can you post your Eurogenes K36 table here?

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

It's fine, can you post your Eurogenes K36 table here?

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Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

Population
Armenian13.14
PctBasque1.11
East_Balkan4.55
East_Central_Euro4.35
PctEast_Med14.55
French0.51 PctIberian0.36
Italian16.05
Near_Eastern10.78
North_Caucasian16.64
PctNorth_Sea3.50
West_Caucasian11.99
PctWest_Med2.47 Pct

But either way ,indeed the different Pontus pops should be studied more (among many other ones) soon ,because with the mixing nowadays both in homelands&diasporas ,you won't be able to figure out anything later.


For the sake of discussion,

First Ionian colony on Pontus was from Miletus to Sinope, about foundation of Ionian Miletus(originally Minoan according to tradition) Herodotus says they didn't bring women but took Carian ones instead ,how true is this I don't know (but I think the fact that such narration exists shows that assimilation wasn't that off obviously)..If it is , it could mean early "Pontians"{recent term btw extending to various lands} had some kind of different "shift" already ,I read once Milesians absorbed locals there too. Sinopians later expanded with Trapezouda ,Kerasouda,Kotyora etc in the coast.

So I think even If we had some ancient "Pontian" samples or some modern population with Ionian continuity ,they'd still be a lot different than one would expect.

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Originally Posted by Roman-Anatolian

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

Population
Armenian13.14
PctBasque1.11
East_Balkan4.55
East_Central_Euro4.35
PctEast_Med14.55
French0.51 PctIberian0.36
Italian16.05
Near_Eastern10.78
North_Caucasian16.64
PctNorth_Sea3.50
West_Caucasian11.99
PctWest_Med2.47 Pct

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K36 distances

https://imgur.com/XOeku0D.png

[QUOTE=AncientGreek;6677359]K36 distances

How did you do that

[QUOTE=Roman-Anatolian;6677368]

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

K36 distances

How did you do that

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This is done using Vahaduo calculator with K36 population references. I believe there is a chance 1 of your great grandparents came from Thrace/Macedonia:

https://imgur.com/N2SyeAK.png

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Originally Posted by Roman-Anatolian

This is done using Vahaduo calculator with K36 population references. I believe there is a chance 1 of your great grandparents came from Thrace/Macedonia:

https://imgur.com/N2SyeAK.png

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I don't think so. I should already know that. My family has never mentioned such thing.

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Originally Posted by Dorian

But either way ,indeed the different Pontus pops should be studied more (among many other ones) soon ,because with the mixing nowadays both in homelands&diasporas ,you won't be able to figure out anything later.


For the sake of discussion,

First Ionian colony on Pontus was from Miletus to Sinope, about foundation of Ionian Miletus(originally Minoan according to tradition) Herodotus says they didn't bring women but took Carian ones instead ,how true is this I don't know (but I think the fact that such narration exists shows that assimilation wasn't that off obviously)..If it is , it could mean early "Pontians"{recent term btw extending to various lands} had some kind of different "shift" already ,I read once Milesians absorbed locals there too. Sinopians later expanded with Trapezouda ,Kerasouda,Kotyora etc in the coast.

So I think even If we had some ancient "Pontian" samples or some modern population with Ionian continuity ,they'd still be a lot different than one would expect.

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Yep. And don't forget the hellenistic kingdom of Bosporus. Colonised by Ionians and some Dorians too.

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

I don't think so. I should already know that. My family has never mentioned such thing.

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It could just be a coincidence, but, let me tell you...

You scored 0 East European on K36, and anybody with a recent Russian ancestor would score East European, as that's the main category of a Russian. Now, you are also closer to northern Greeks in distance than to other mainland Greeks, which is also very strange. That's why I have a feeling you could have an ancestor from northern Greece, and your family doesn't even need to know about it. Maybe I'm wrong, could just be a bunch of coincidences adding up.