Are light traits in Southern Europe due to the northern European admixture ?

Btw, brown hairs by italian regions

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...hair_Italy.png

Blonde hairs by italian regions (Corsica is included):

http://mapsof.net/uploads/static-map...hair_italy.gif


Red hais (note the old north-eastern borders):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...elli_Rossi.jpg

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Originally Posted by alfieb

I didn't see a single one in the Agrigento thread with light eyes. Arab Coast.

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Enna had 6 out of 32.

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Originally Posted by Reozek

Spain

Study 2 : Hoyos-Sánz

Fair-eyes color (includes blue, greenish and grey) :

Vasco-Navarra 39.2%
Aragón 34.9%
Castilla La Nueva 21.4%
Castilla La Vieja 21.1%
Baleares 21.0%
León 18.8%
Múrcia 16.9%
Extremadura 18.8%
Cataluña 14.5%
Asturias 19.1%
Valencia 12.1%
Galícia 12.3%
Granada 11.7%
Andalucía 10.7%

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Originally Posted by ABest

I find some of this data about North Italy/Spain to be exaggerated. I've read studies that showed that the pigmentation difference between Southern and Northern Italy/Spain to be sizable but rather small.

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I don't think so. Before knowing Hoyos-Sanz's data, I already was under the personal impression that the Basque-Navarre-Aragon area was the most light-eyed in all of Iberia. When I got to know it, that just seemed to confirm it.

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Originally Posted by Peyrol

Btw, brown hairs by italian regions

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...hair_Italy.png

Blonde hairs by italian regions (Corsica is included):

http://mapsof.net/uploads/static-map...hair_italy.gif


Red hais (note the old north-eastern borders):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...elli_Rossi.jpg

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There it is! These are two of the maps I was talking about! The second image is not working, can you fix it? :)

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Originally Posted by ABest

I think I found one of the studies I was referring to.

http://archhades.blogspot.com/2011_06_01_archive.html

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/...8f532076_z.jpg

I mean they show a difference between Sicily and Northernmost italy, but much smaller than some numbers posted here. Plus, they show N. Italy to be much "darker" than "50%" light. I don't know when this study was conducted though.

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they are exactly the same data , for example Piemonte : 33.552 individuals , 13.369 have blue+gray eyes = 39.8% :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Peyrol

So, basically two contrasting studies which used random people. Who is right?

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You said that was a study made in 2010, instead it's a label made by Rodolfo Livi in 1863, so I was right.

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Originally Posted by Peyrol

Btw, brown hairs by italian regions

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...hair_Italy.png

Blonde hairs by italian regions (Corsica is included):

http://mapsof.net/uploads/static-map...hair_italy.gif


Red hais (note the old north-eastern borders):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...elli_Rossi.jpg

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how is that possible that north has more brown hair than south?

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Originally Posted by P-Chan

You said that was a study made in 2010, instead it's a label made by Rodolfo Livi in 1863, so I was right.

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Se vedo scritto ''2010'' nel link cosa penso, che l'ha fatto topogigio?

Comunque se ricavi le percentuali i numeri sono esattamente quelli che ho postato io.

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Originally Posted by Kastrioti1443

how is that possible that north has more brown hair than south?

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Obviously yes, since ''other'' hairs in Sardegna and in some southern regions are ''Black''.

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Originally Posted by Reozek

they are exactly the same data , for example Piemonte : 33.552 individuals , 13.369 have blue+gray eyes = 39.8% :rolleyes:

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Oh, ok. I was looking at the black hair number, which was oddly low in Sicily. :p

Plus, I didn't go through the percentages.