Eurogenes ANE K7 - post your results

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

What do you make of the Peloponnesian and Raine's father (also Peloponnese)? They are not near the islanders and Sicilians, but they are also not quite with the other Balkan people. Which direction do they shift in?

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They shift in south-eastern direction on the genetic map of Europe as far as I can see.

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Originally Posted by Simargl

They shift in south-eastern direction on the genetic map of Europe as far as I can see.

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But I mean, relative to the Sicilians, do they shift northeast? Northwest? Southeast? etc.

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Originally Posted by Simargl

Balkanic populations such as Bulgarians, Romanians, Montenegrins, Kosovars, Albanians are in south-eastern quadrant. Some Greeks and Sicilians are extreme versions of south-eastern quadrant.

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Albanians and kosovars seem a bit more south western (sardinian like) compared to other balkanites who either seem to shift towards west asia or ne europe.or maybe im reading it wrong?

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

But I mean, relative to the Sicilians, do they shift northeast? Northwest? Southeast? etc.

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Just more northern than the Sicilians as per the plot. Minor deviation in western direction is likely not significant .

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Originally Posted by Sar93

Albanians and kosovars seem a bit more south western (sardinian like) compared to other balkanites who either seem to shift towards west asia or ne europe.or maybe im reading it wrong?

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Chloe is an Albanian? She's near Greeks. Sardinians will be a fair distance away in western direction. If someone have samples or averages for Kosovars and Albanian samples I will plot them together with the Sardinians.

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Originally Posted by Simargl

Chloe is an Albanian? She's near Greeks. Sardinians will be a fair distance away in western direction. If someone have samples or averages for Kosovars and Albanian samples I will plot them together with the Sardinians.

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Ah yes I see :)
I am from Kosovo (previous username laston which has been added to the map). I will invite other albanians on the forum to post their results.

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

But I mean, relative to the Sicilians, do they shift northeast? Northwest? Southeast? etc.

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They are straight up more Northern, +10 WHG -10 ENF, and a bit more ANE, which correct their drift NW to just North, compared to Sicilians.

ANE 12.45%
ASE 1.94%
WHG-UHG 47.94%
West_African 0.72%
ENF 36.95%

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Originally Posted by Simargl

Update

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0

http://postimg.org/image/kjswyp58p/full/


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Someone accidentally edited a couple of records. Please copy the data into a separate sheet doing sorting and editing. Otherwise, it 's difficult to see what has been updated in the spreadsheet.

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I'm not in the spreadsheet yet.

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Originally Posted by Thrax

I'm not in the spreadsheet yet.

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Update http://postimg.org/image/iibrtjiwt/full/

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Originally Posted by Sar93

Albanians and kosovars seem a bit more south western (sardinian like) compared to other balkanites who either seem to shift towards west asia or ne europe.or maybe im reading it wrong?

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Averages from Eurogenes K7. Kosovars, Greek Thessaly, central Greeks, Sardinians and other south Europeans are featuring on the plot : http://postimg.org/image/optylo7bl/full/

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Originally Posted by Chloe

You mean the Stutgart man? And how come so southwest?

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Check Starcevo in the latest ciation of Polako.

May be telling for Balkan farmers, also from the comments.

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Maju,

I can tell you that Starcevo_EN isn't much different from West and Central Anatolian Neolithic farmers.

So that should give you an idea of the scale of the genetic shift in much of Anatolia.

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Originally Posted by Simargl

Chloe is an Albanian? She's near Greeks. Sardinians will be a fair distance away in western direction. If someone have samples or averages for Kosovars and Albanian samples I will plot them together with the Sardinians.

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I am western to all greeks in the map, samples and individuals. All greeks are eastern shifted compare to all Albanians in the map. I am also southern than mainland greeks but not islands.

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Originally Posted by Simargl

Averages from Eurogenes K7. Kosovars, Greek Thessaly, central Greeks, Sardinians and other south Europeans are featuring on the plot : http://postimg.org/image/optylo7bl/full/

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Even the Abruzzese are significantly south/east compared to the Thessalian Greeks. Interesting. "South Italian" on there represents people from Calabria.

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Originally Posted by Simargl

Update http://postimg.org/image/iibrtjiwt/full/

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do you know why me and my dad are below the italian samples ?

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Originally Posted by cmv88

do you know why me and my dad are below the italian samples ?

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That I don't know.

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Originally Posted by Simargl

That I don't know.

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Can you add Chocolateface"s and mine too? I am from Kosova while Choco is from North Albania/Montenegro:

ANE 11.20%
ASE 2.58%
WHG-UHG 44.20%
East_Eurasian 0.21%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 41.81%

Kosovars ChocolateFace and Skerdilaid are added to the plot : http://postimg.org/image/i8fsk4rxn/full/

Greek Islands 3 is pulled way north due to high ANE.

But now you see some more trends. Greek islanders, southern Italians, Sicilians, and Longbowman form a cluster... the Ionian islanders (Greek islands 2 and 4) shift toward the Balkans away from the Sicilians and Aegeans.

I am posting here the results of all the Albanians on Apricity excluding the ones who already posted their results.

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GENI - ALBANIAN
Population
ANE 10.70%
ASE 1.51%
WHG-UHG 42.44%
East_Eurasian 0.44%
West_African 0.15%
East_African -
ENF 44.77%

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SAFINATOR - ALBANIAN
Population
ANE 11.02%
ASE 1.40%
WHG-UHG 40.25%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.07%
East_African 0.52%
ENF 46.73%

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KURT - ALBANIAN
Population
ANE 10.79%
ASE 0.59%
WHG-UHG 44.80%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.27%
East_African 0.09%
ENF 43.45%

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GASHI 91 - ALBANIAN FROM KOSOVO
Population
ANE 11.92%
ASE 0.07%
WHG-UHG 46.84%
East_Eurasian 0.85%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.32%

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INIRD - ALBANIAN FROM MACEDONIA
Population
ANE 11.24%
ASE 1.93%
WHG-UHG 43.23%
East_Eurasian 1.50%
West_African -
East_African 0.10%
ENF 42.00%

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ARCHON PROGON - ALBANIAN
Population
ANE 11.77%
ASE 1.39%
WHG-UHG 44.59%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 42.26%

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KUQEZI - ALBANIAN FROM KOSOVO
Population
ANE 9.80%
ASE 1.78%
WHG-UHG 44.85%
East_Eurasian 1.71%
West_African 0.31%
East_African 0.27%
ENF 41.28%

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Originally Posted by safinator

I am posting here the results of all the Albanians on Apricity excluding the ones who already posted their results.

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If anyone wants to enter these data into the spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0

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Originally Posted by Simargl

If anyone wants to enter these data into the spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0

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I think it's better if you do it yourself, better not risk people gettin into the spreadsheet and changing others data.

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Originally Posted by safinator

I think it's better if you do it yourself, better not risk people gettin into the spreadsheet and changing others data.

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I keep a back up copy on HDD and I won't be doing it myself. I've already entered enough.

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Originally Posted by Simargl

I keep a back up copy on HDD and I won't be doing it myself. I've already entered enough.

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And about the PCA plot?

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Originally Posted by safinator

And about the PCA plot?

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I'd do the PCA plot.

Update . Albanian members are added : http://postimg.org/image/g6yk48w8d/full/

Population
ANE 13.29%
ASE 1.95%
WHG-UHG 53.13%
East_Eurasian 1.12%
West_African 0.72%
East_African -
ENF 29.79%

Im adding my mother fresh results, don't know if Simargl will still update. I guess she would fall somewhere between Breton and Norman

http://s22.postimg.org/twsb2parl/EK7mom.jpg

Population
ANE 13.91%
ASE 0.40%
WHG-UHG 61.70%
East_Eurasian 0.83%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 23.15%

Population
ANE 11.76%
ASE 1.35%
WHG-UHG 54.29%
East_Eurasian 1.34%
West_African 0.61%
East_African 0.47%
ENF 30.18%

Population
ANE 11.76%
ASE 1.35%
WHG-UHG 54.29%
East_Eurasian 1.34%
West_African 0.61%
East_African 0.47%
ENF 30.18%

Eurogenes_ANE K7 Admixture Proportions

ANE 16.34%
ASE 1.65%
WHG-UHG 69.03%
East_Eurasian 1.35%
West_African 0.36%
East_African 0.60%
ENF 10.67%

Got my raw data today, what do you think about this result? Something out of the ordinary?

You are close to the Swede average with a bit of "South/west shift i think (towards Norway genetically)

Added your data and some others.

All members datas : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...fwg/edit#gid=0

(last ones are at the end)

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Originally Posted by Berahthraban

Eurogenes_ANE K7 Admixture Proportions

ANE 16.34%
ASE 1.65%
WHG-UHG 69.03%
East_Eurasian 1.35%
West_African 0.36%
East_African 0.60%
ENF 10.67%

Got my raw data today, what do you think about this result? Something out of the ordinary?

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What do you score on K15 Eurogenes Oracle? That is one the better calculators for modern populations.

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Originally Posted by Petalpusher

You are close to the Swede average with a bit of "South/west shift i think (towards Norway genetically)

Added your data and some others.

All members datas : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...fwg/edit#gid=0

(last ones are at the end)

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Updated : http://postimg.org/image/pkclsm6hp/full/

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Originally Posted by Graham

What do you score on K15 Eurogenes Oracle? That is one the better calculators for modern populations.

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Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35.23
2 Atlantic 26.71
3 Baltic 16.25
4 Eastern_Euro 11.72
5 West_Med 7.37
6 Siberian 1.05
7 West_Asian 0.89
8 South_Asian 0.56
9 Sub-Saharan 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 5.46
2 North_Dutch 5.49
3 Swedish 5.76
4 Norwegian 5.77
5 North_German 5.79
6 North_Swedish 6.93
7 Irish 7.03
8 West_Scottish 7.24
9 Southeast_English 7.66
10 West_Norwegian 7.69
11 Southwest_English 8.21
12 Orcadian 8.9
13 South_Dutch 9.59
14 East_German 10.22
15 Southwest_Finnish 10.39
16 West_German 10.42
17 Finnish 13.85
18 French 14.54
19 Hungarian 15.04
20 Austrian 15.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.5% West_Scottish + 30.5% Estonian @ 1.97
2 73.5% Orcadian + 26.5% Estonian @ 2.06
3 61.8% Irish + 38.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.18
4 57.3% Southwest_English + 42.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.23
5 59.9% West_Scottish + 40.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.23
6 71.3% Irish + 28.7% Estonian @ 2.27
7 64.6% Orcadian + 35.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.3
8 77.1% Orcadian + 22.9% Lithuanian @ 2.4
9 73.4% West_Scottish + 26.6% Lithuanian @ 2.4
10 67.4% Southwest_English + 32.6% Estonian @ 2.44
11 63.1% North_Swedish + 36.9% Southwest_English @ 2.47
12 65.9% Southwest_English + 34.1% Finnish @ 2.54
13 70% Irish + 30% Finnish @ 2.57
14 72.5% Orcadian + 27.5% Finnish @ 2.58
15 68.3% West_Scottish + 31.7% Finnish @ 2.58
16 73.4% Irish + 26.6% East_Finnish @ 2.63
17 71.8% West_Scottish + 28.2% East_Finnish @ 2.68
18 55.8% North_Swedish + 44.2% Orcadian @ 2.71
19 69.9% North_Dutch + 30.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.76
20 75.8% Orcadian + 24.2% East_Finnish @ 2.77

sar93

Done : http://postimg.org/image/x7u4nahr5/full/

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Originally Posted by Berahthraban

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results

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There you go. East Norway/Swedish on my Pca.

http://s14.postimg.org/5cgshcfhd/berah.jpg

The K7 PCA shows more affinity by vertical gradients, if that makes sense, he is slightly closer to Norway in datas.

Im guessing the ENF component gets divided into EHG and BE. The 22% ENF that people keep scoring here must really just be Basal Eurasian alone.

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Originally Posted by Catkin

Me
ANE 16.64%
ASE 1.86%
WHG-UHG 63.80%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.49%
East_African 0.28%
ENF 16.93%

Dad
ANE 17.38%
ASE 1.61%
WHG-UHG 62.12%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 0.27%
ENF 18.61%

Mum
ANE 16.76%
ASE 2.67%
WHG-UHG 63.15%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 1.02%
East_African -
ENF 16.40%

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Your dad's results are similar to mine. What is your dad's ethnicity?