Sure sure
Good story bro.
You are a radical islamist. Alevis have their own trinity which is Allah (the god), Mohammad (messenger) and Ali (the vali and caliphate). That's not a dance you see yobaz yazid, that's a dance you can't get what its mean only mavlavi and sufis can understand the meaning and its divine.
It's okay with me if you are a sunni laz and don't disrespect Alevism.
Ottomans are oghuz. Their ancestors have fought against mongols, they lost the battle and run to anatolia to seek asylum from seljuks, which is granted.
Ottomans have built many medreses in anatolia. Even before yavuz have conquested egypte. If they were alevi they wouldnt do that. I'm not a religous fanatic, i'm willing to accept you as a fellow turk but do not disprect sunni islam/ottoman legacy like many alevis do.
your beloved shah was the reason why sunni turks couldn't unite, his wars were always against ottomans or turkics(uzbeks). he never attacked europeans. he's also the reason why eastern turkey became kurdish. because alevis like you were not loyal to ottomans. thats why yavuz gave sunni kurds many priviliges. I think it was a good decision. If eastern turkey was alevi, ottomans would in the end lose control over the region. You'd join iran and lose your faith, just like turkish warrios who run to iran's side in 16th century.
Şaraptan dönen sirke keskin olur işte böyle.
Sen kimsin de Aleviler'i aşağılıyorsun da bir de laz olarak utanmadan bizim milletimizi bizden esirgemeye çalışıyorsun kendince? Bir de dans diyerek kültürü hor görüyorsun amk hayatında devleti bile olmamış bir lazsın işte.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV0lsHiZehU
Mocking the "Turks" who believe they are "Turkish" with as little as 12% Turkish blood, as usual...Maybe you need to buy glasses...Quote:
I have visited azerbaijan(republic),tebriz(occupied azerbajian) and tahran(only place where i saw ethnic persians) few years ago. Plus there are many iranians (persians included) where i live.
Why do you hate the Shias then? Only the Sunni fundamentalists hate the Shias...Quote:
I don't have problem with atheists. I'm not a religious fanatic as instict is trying to portray me.
Ottomans are the muslim Greeks and Armenians in fact. Yes, of course we Alevis do not accept and recognise the legacy of Ottoman Empire and very happy that you were destroyed by Atatürk.
I don't care that you accept me as a fellow Turk or not. I am a Turk by blood and you are Laz by blood that's all.
Then go to be with the side of your fellow Kurdish Zaza Sunni Shafi Kurds.
You are the murderer of more than 40.000 Turks in Anatolia. Most of Chepnis of Black Sea were forced to convert Sunni Islam, the rest of Chepnis could protect their identity in Western Anatolia.
After you genocide Alevi Turks in southeastern Anatolia you Ottomans settled Sunni Kurds, you moron still try to blame Safavid Empire for this shit. You should accept what you did at least if you dare.
la oğlum bi birbirinize düşmeden bırakın, ite köpeğe mlzm vermeyin. derdinizi özelden paylaşın :)
As already wrote. Central Asian Turkic groups are descend of the Tur(Iranic) and an Altaic group. That doesn't make Scythians Turkic but Turks part Scythian.
I compare my results with turkmens. I see many similarities. They have more mongloid genes but it's normal i guess, since anatolia was not empty when we have arrived..
Shia is based on hate against sunnis. It's a dangerous indoctrination and very imperialistic. I wish iran became sunni again. Did you know that we turks learnt islam from iranians (sunni) and not from arabs?
Siktir şerefsiz. Aç ağzını köpekler sıçacakmış amk ne olacakmış.
Aleviler genellikle Sivas, Tokat, Tunceli, Elazığ, Çorum illerinden olurlar zaten gerizekalı ergen. Bağlı olduğum ocak, kültür, gelenek gayet temiz ki sen ne olduğun belirsiz balkanlardan müslüman olup dönmüşler gelmişler işte Türkiye'ye. Bu yani senin olayın dönme boku.
Alıntılarsam ne olur? Sen kimsin amk? Bir daha sakın ve sakın yavşakoğlu yavşaklık yapma.
lan eşeğe söylesem şimdiye anladıydı. ne menem bi sıpaymış bu ya. nereden bulaştık bu tavus bokuna.
That doesn't kill any Turk's pride. There are many turkologists say that Turkic ethnicity is a result of Aryan and Mongol admixture, the ethnicities are with many or some admixtures of races you know.
I don't think 95% of Turks have Armenian, Greek, etc. ancestry but the so called turkish members called Ice and ÖlüEzgi are not Turks.
I knew you'd use the laz card against me. I'm happy with it, i see it as an enrichment.
Ottomans took wives from different etnicites. There were here and there some conversions, but it's not right to call the empire greek-armenian, just because it won several wars against safevids.
Alevi propaganda. yavuz have only killed alevis that helped safevids. Innocent alevis were relocated to other parts of anatolia or balkans. You were helping the enemy and you're braggin' about it?
I'd love to see your test results. Last time i saw an alevi result it was textbook kurdish. The guy was a turkish nationalist before he did the test just like you. He became kurdish nationalist, i think he also supports pkk.
You can see my results in this thread.
If you want it i can also give you my gedmatch and harappa number. I even score more east asian than average turks.
are you man, sorry turkish enough to show yours ?
It's funny a stupid laz says that Alevi Turks should go to Iran? Kimin ülkesinden kimi kovuyorsun sen laz? xD
The Turkish proffesssor Ilber Ortayli and historian Murat Bardakçı and many proffessors say that I. Selim killed more than 40.000 Alevis, written in the documents.
I don't mind if you have a laz ancestry or not, I am not racist basicaly but it's just funny you as a laz trying to show yourself Turkish however most of Alevis are pure Turks. So, stop saying that. You are not Turkish nor turkish nationalist but an islamist neo ottoman laz.
I am very glad you live in Germany.
It's ok Tork, you can let out your frustrations, its understandable if you are feeling butthurt because you are a result of male extermination by Iranian central Asians who raped the mongloid siberians woman and killed their Mongloid men, and gave rise to Turks. And as i remember reading, Torks were fleeing the Mongol hoards more then anyone.
Oh and don't forget, any Turkic dynasty of Iran were completely Persianate and the ruling class were always of Iranic stock, just like the R1a of the Ottoman rullers, it was always the smart Aryan ruling over the Idiotic turkic masses.
The guy you talk about his test results is individual. I have more Turkic blood and ancestry that's clear because we already live with it and we have got our own faith and Turkic culture. This is why we don't do stupid stuff like you laz, armenian, greek converts. Get the fuck off out my country and go to saudi arabia and mix with them.
Turcoman Alevi's think like I do. So why they would do it? They would kick your ass firstly because you are their first enemy for sure. I can say that Azeri Turks will kick your ass too.
You're lying here like all the time. First of everything you started to attack Shia people and Alevis when you were talking about sychtians. This is the way how you are hatred towards Shia people.
I am sure you can't naturalise in Germany. You have no homeland, poor laz.