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03-27-2019, 12:02 PM
Sp_loa

Can someone add my grandmother-

X axis- 622
Y axis- 520

Please quote me when you do

Thanks!
03-27-2019, 12:18 PM
ph2ter

My family added:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/psxltr7zru...icity.png?dl=0
03-27-2019, 02:54 PM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

Let's add Georgian_Jewish.

+ Georgian_Jewish, South_Dutch, Native_American (Pima), Mayan.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7843/...d7e4711b_o.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilhoV

Try Canary islanders

there is no Canary Islands in Eurogenes K15 spreadsheet
03-27-2019, 02:59 PM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vojnik

That's you. I think i did it right. Can someone that has done more confirm this is right?
All i did was paste the photo on paint. Then i just moved the mouse to the place which showed the coordinates ***** gave.

http://i68.tinypic.com/291f191.png

it is correct
03-27-2019, 03:10 PM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp_loa

Can someone add my grandmother-

X axis- 622
Y axis- 520

Please quote me when you do

Thanks!

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7921/...6f4a96eb_o.png
03-27-2019, 03:10 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp_loa

Can someone add my grandmother-

X axis- 622
Y axis- 520

Please quote me when you do

Thanks!

https://i.ibb.co/Y26ZGJK/45925011494-771cc1ee16-o.png
03-27-2019, 03:11 PM
ModernMaskil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7921/...6f4a96eb_o.png

damn it lol
03-27-2019, 03:48 PM
Rgvgjhvv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faklon

Fully right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3eU9crcDdY

How do you cluster in relation to Cretans?

Yeah but we have extended family from Syros so there's a high possibility that's mixed in me as well.

I think it depends on where in Crete they're from.

This might be a good comparison:

http://i65.tinypic.com/wwnkog.png
03-27-2019, 06:40 PM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markos

Yeah but we have extended family from Syros so there's a high possibility that's mixed in me as well.

I think it depends on where in Crete they're from.

This might be a good comparison:

http://i65.tinypic.com/wwnkog.png

Where did you get the Romaniote data from?
03-27-2019, 07:13 PM
Rgvgjhvv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

Where did you get the Romaniote data from?

Didn't create this map, sorry.
03-27-2019, 07:54 PM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markos

Didn't create this map, sorry.

Who created it?
03-27-2019, 08:54 PM
Rgvgjhvv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

Who created it?

Erikl86 on Anthrogenica
03-27-2019, 10:06 PM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markos

Erikl86 on Anthrogenica

That place seems closed down now. Would be great to get the data. I suspect they're the most Judean diaspora.
03-27-2019, 10:14 PM
HungryLion

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMaskil

https://i.ibb.co/Y26ZGJK/45925011494-771cc1ee16-o.png

Who is Aye? She or he is similar to me on this pca..
03-27-2019, 10:31 PM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryLion

Who is Aye? She or he is similar to me on this pca..

Ayetooey.
03-27-2019, 10:35 PM
HungryLion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

Ayetooey.

Oh, cool..
03-28-2019, 08:01 AM
Faklon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markos

Yeah but we have extended family from Syros so there's a high possibility that's mixed in me as well.

I think it depends on where in Crete they're from.

This might be a good comparison:

http://i65.tinypic.com/wwnkog.png

Seems to be a relevant diversity among Cretans, kinda runs with forensic anthropology. Do you know if it is a West Crete-East Crete cline?

There also seems to be a cline from Dodecanese to Samos/Chios with Ikaria in-between, still Ikariots seem to cluster notably more Western than Cretans. Lavrentis should have seen this as he called these areas Turkoid.

Interesting to have something on Romaniotes.
03-28-2019, 05:16 PM
Rgvgjhvv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faklon

Seems to be a relevant diversity among Cretans, kinda runs with forensic anthropology. Do you know if it is a West Crete-East Crete cline?

There also seems to be a cline from Dodecanese to Samos/Chios with Ikaria in-between, still Ikariots seem to cluster notably more Western than Cretans. Lavrentis should have seen this as he called these areas Turkoid.

Interesting to have something on Romaniotes.

I'm not 100% sure. However, It's important to note this is an extremely small sample size, so it shouldn't be taken as gospel or anything. I know for a fact the Ikaria samples are based on 2 or 3 samples that have ever been found total. Without any proof of confirmed Ikarian ancestry from all 4 grandparents. I have seen a lot of diversity between all Greek islands on this plot, but of course Sikeliot cherry picked what he wanted to. In my opinion, the majority of islands cluster together in a broad area, and the differences are more from an individual basis, rather than and island basis. However, it's important to know also that the "Central Greek" PCA plot is almost always clustered with Greek islanders, and sometimes the most southern-shifting Maniots, rather than anything near Central Greece on the mainland. From what I understand, most Peleponnesians plot in between Abruzzo and Thessaly, and anything north of there plots Thessaly and above. So they should really change the naming of that. However, we're talking really small differences here.
03-28-2019, 05:29 PM
Faklon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markos

I'm not 100% sure. However, It's important to note this is an extremely small sample size, so it shouldn't be taken as gospel or anything. I know for a fact the Ikaria samples are based on 2 or 3 samples that have ever been found total. Without any proof of confirmed Ikarian ancestry from all 4 grandparents. I have seen a lot of diversity between all Greek islands on this plot, but of course Sikeliot cherry picked what he wanted to. In my opinion, the majority of islands cluster together in a broad area, and the differences are more from an individual basis, rather than and island basis. However, it's important to know also that the "Central Greek" PCA plot is almost always clustered with Greek islanders, and sometimes the most southern-shifting Maniots, rather than anything near Central Greece on the mainland. From what I understand, most Peleponnesians plot in between Abruzzo and Thessaly, and anything north of there plots Thessaly and above. So they should really change the naming of that. However, we're talking really small differences here.

Yes, that old sample is possibly from Athens but could also be from Euboea. Inland Central Greece(Aetolia, Evrytania, etc) plots around Thessaly and North Peloponnese from the samples Sikel shared.
03-29-2019, 01:20 AM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryLion

Who is Aye? She or he is similar to me on this pca..

And he is half Serbian half British.
03-29-2019, 02:34 AM
Borealis

How can I be added to this PCA?
03-29-2019, 01:52 PM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basilisk

How can I be added to this PCA?

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm

post your Eurogenes K15 results
03-29-2019, 09:53 PM
Borealis

1 Attachment(s)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm

post your Eurogenes K15 results

X axis:1986

Y axis:792

Attachment 86182
03-29-2019, 10:19 PM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basilisk

X axis:1986

Y axis:792

Attachment 86182

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7883/...452cd180_o.png
03-29-2019, 10:32 PM
Borealis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7883/...452cd180_o.png

Awesome!
03-29-2019, 10:34 PM
waam

X axis:823

Y axis:600

If anyone can go ahead and add me it would be highly appreciated :)
03-29-2019, 10:42 PM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by waam

X axis:823

Y axis:600

If anyone can go ahead and add me it would be highly appreciated :)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7827/...a4b0a735_o.png
03-29-2019, 10:44 PM
waam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7827/...a4b0a735_o.png

Thanks!
03-30-2019, 12:05 AM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by waam

Thanks!

Are you mizrachi?
03-30-2019, 12:09 AM
waam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

Are you mizrachi?

Correct.
03-30-2019, 12:11 AM
michal3141

My coordinates:

X: 487
Y: 130
03-30-2019, 12:19 AM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by michal3141

My coordinates:

X: 487
Y: 130

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7911/...20b1fdd6_o.png
03-30-2019, 12:28 AM
michal3141

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7911/...20b1fdd6_o.png

Thank you for marking my position with a solid square ;) It looks nice.
03-30-2019, 01:20 AM
Pine

Quote:

Originally Posted by waam

Correct.

What kind?
03-30-2019, 01:24 AM
Veles

Add please.
482
103

Who is ST?
03-30-2019, 01:40 AM
Lemgrant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veles

Add please.
482
103

Who is ST?

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7904/...16524b5e_o.png
03-30-2019, 02:36 AM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veles

Add please.
482
103

Who is ST?

Can you please post your K15 admixture proportions and oracle?

Do you mean SK? SK = silentkiller, a Russian guy.
03-30-2019, 02:38 AM
Leto

People keep using the version of the map which I advised not to use. For example Mingle's position is wrong. I posted the correct one a few pages back but to no avail.
03-30-2019, 05:07 AM
Borealis

The thing I don't like about this calculator is it underestimates the differences between non-Europeans. Look at how many categories there are for European components compared to other races. I wonder if they can make a PCA that is better for people like myself.
03-30-2019, 09:33 AM
waam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine

What kind?

Mountain, Yemenite and Libyan Jewish.

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