Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

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Originally Posted by andre

@nurzat, could you post the Vaslui_1, Vaslui_2, neamt and suceava results (like, Vaslui,24.50,29.40...)
Thank you!

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added my Suceava as Suceava-1 and Mingle's Suceava as Suceava-2

K13
Vaslui-1,23.46,28.78,17.1,9.49,15.08,2.33,0.19,0.1,2.35,0. 58,0.56,0,0
Vaslui-2,26.56,26.95,15.36,8.59,16.04,3.01,0.55,0.08,2.86, 0,0,0,0
Suceava-1,25.1,30.93,16.34,10.95,11.35,0.08,1.2,1.01,1.3,0. 74,0.64,0,0.36
Suceava-2,26.88,29.15,13.73,8.13,14.66,2.27 ,2.06,0,2.15,0.88,0.1,0,0
Neamt,21.38,27.17,14.71,13.65,16.38,2.64,0.06,1.68,1.96 ,0,0.39,0,0
Botosani,22.52,33.55,15.3,9.67,13.39,2.08,1.2,0.4,1.78,0,0 ,0,0

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Originally Posted by Carpatz

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Are you full romanian? Are you 100% from Maramures?

Tested a few Swedish kits

https://i.imgur.com/xBf5clx.png

A little historical perspective about Csángós. Even if living rather close to one another there are two types of them: Moldavian Csángós, who are the Medieval Hungarian population of Moldavia, who mixed with Moldavians, Eastern Slavs and probably Cumans, and there are Gyimesi Csángós, who are in majority Székelys that migrated into Moldavia in the 18th century, and mixed with local Moldavian Csángós. I wonder how sure it is that the Csango_Gyimes sample in K13 is really of the Gyimesi type and not of the Moldavian type?

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Originally Posted by Mr.G

:)

Target: Mr.G
Distance: 2.6416% / 2.64160132
49.8 Szekely_Harghita
37.4 North_German
12.8 Southwest_English

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Leave this Szekely ref or not? Wht do you think?

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Originally Posted by Dunai

A little historical perspective about Csángós. Even if living rather close to one another there are two types of them: Moldavian Csángós, who are the Medieval Hungarian population of Moldavia, who mixed with Moldavians, Eastern Slavs and probably Cumans, and there are Gyimesi Csángós, who are in majority Székelys that migrated into Moldavia in the 18th century, and mixed with local Moldavian Csángós. I wonder how sure it is that the Csango_Gyimes sample in K13 is really of the Gyimesi type and not of the Moldavian type?

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True. I find the moldavian csángó dialect to be really interesting. It's truly are a form of older hungarian. Different than székely dialect.

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

Leave this Szekely ref or not? Wht do you think?

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How much different are Swedish and norwegian on this thing?

One of the swedish kits i ran is a friend of mine and hes from Jämtland county and he scored norwegian.

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

Leave this Szekely ref or not? Wht do you think?

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Put this if you want.
Szekely,27.10,29.27,13.95,8.86,12.73,2.00,1.51,0.6 6,2.28,0.90,0.54,0.11,0.08
It’s a average between 4/5 samples.

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Originally Posted by Dunai

A little historical perspective about Csángós. Even if living rather close to one another there are two types of them: Moldavian Csángós, who are the Medieval Hungarian population of Moldavia, who mixed with Moldavians, Eastern Slavs and probably Cumans, and there are Gyimesi Csángós, who are in majority Székelys that migrated into Moldavia in the 18th century, and mixed with local Moldavian Csángós. I wonder how sure it is that the Csango_Gyimes sample in K13 is really of the Gyimesi type and not of the Moldavian type?

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Gymesi csángók.

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Originally Posted by andre

Gymesi csángók.

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Cool, the Gyimesi Csángós suppose to be more closer to the Székelys, since they are basically an off-shoot of Székelys.

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Originally Posted by Dunai

Cool, the Gyimesi Csángós suppose to be more closer to the Székelys, since they are basically an off-shoot of Székelys.

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Basically Szekely with other Wallachian admix.
The Siret Csangos, most probably are genetically identical with other romanian people.

Flag of the moldavian csángos.

https://www.erdely.ma/wp-content/upl...ment-00124.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

Ok, maybe not all but those with oracles and without few less used:)

Every calc has his own website with preinstaled oracle spreadsheet in SOURCE.
Just copy your results from Gedmatch for every calculator and paste them as comma separated values (in one line) in TARGET. And at the beginning add your name with comma (like in example below).
https://i.imgur.com/dDXWBBL.jpg

DISTANCE tab shows your distance to spreadsheet references.

SINGLE makes your oracles.
You can remove some references from SOURCE and make targeted runs in SINGLE, when you reload page they will be again added.
Also ADD DIST COL (ADC) function in SINGLE tab is very useful. It changes your results in some way.

I think interesting benefit is making multiple runs for many results at once (MULTI option)

ENJOY!

https://i.imgur.com/ktzNsQn.png

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Lukasz, could you remove south_moldova and north_moldova and add this samples?

Romanian_South_Central_Moldova,23.66,27.39,16.45,1 0.42,16.41,2.00,0.2,0.56,2.15,0.37,0.35,0.04,0
Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina,24.97,31.21,15.12, 9.58,13.13,1.48,1.49,0.47,1.74,0.54,0.25,0,0.12

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Originally Posted by andre

Basically Szekely with other Wallachian admix.
The Siret Csangos, most probably are genetically identical with other romanian people.

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This is the list of Gyimesi Csángó villages in Hungarian: Gyimesfelsőlok, Gyimesközéplok, Gyimesbükk, Magyarcsügés, Kostelek, Egerszék, Háromkút, Gyepece, Bükklok, Csobányos, Úzvölgye. Basically Csángós who are from any other locations are Moldavian Csángós.

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Originally Posted by Maintenance

How much different are Swedish and norwegian on this thing?

One of the swedish kits i ran is a friend of mine and hes from Jämtland county and he scored norwegian.

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I didn't edit West and north Euro references and probably I won't. Maybe I will just add few new ones.

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Originally Posted by andre

Lukasz, could you remove south_moldova and north_moldova and add this samples?

Romanian_South_Central_Moldova,23.66,27.39,16.45,1 0.42,16.41,2.00,0.2,0.56,2.15,0.37,0.35,0.04,0
Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina,24.97,31.21,15.12, 9.58,13.13,1.48,1.49,0.47,1.74,0.54,0.25,0,0.12

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Added, also those Szekely averages.

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

Leave this Szekely ref or not? Wht do you think?

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YES!

Not only that, I'd like to see Kokeny and her mother added to Eurogenes K15. Kokeny, is that okay with you? If she doesn't mind, are you willing to add them Lukasz?

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Originally Posted by Mr.G

YES!

Not only that, I'd like to see Kokeny and her mother added to Eurogenes K15. Kokeny, is that okay with you? If she doesn't mind, are you willing to add them Lukasz?

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This average was posted before:) I added.

My new results:

Serbian still strong. We need transylvanian romanian samples.
Distance to: K13
5.25476926 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
6.36360747 Serbian
6.80810546 Romanian_Oltenia
7.32516211 Serbian_Bosnia
7.71079114 Bulgarian
7.82883133 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
8.23652232 Romanian_Muntenia
8.43411525 Szekely
9.56461349 North_Macedonian
9.83250222 Csango_Gymes
10.86410144 Moldavian
13.36603905 Croatian
13.80887034 Hungarian
14.32474782 Albanian
16.42651211 Greek_Thessaly
18.28445515 Austrian
18.71121856 Czech
18.89516340 Greek_Peloponnese
19.77050328 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
19.97890888 East_German
20.02524657 Ukrainian_Lviv
20.73678857 South_Polish
21.23929848 Ukrainian
22.20744695 Tuscan
22.31111158 North_Italian

Target: K13
Distance: 2.3581% / 2.35807091 | ADC: 0.25x
54.2 Serbian_Bosnia
35.2 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
7.0 Yemenite_Jewish
2.4 Southwest_Russian
1.2 Lebanese_Druze

Target: K13
Distance: 3.5772% / 3.57721737 | ADC: 0.5x
63.4 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
32.8 Serbian_Bosnia
3.8 Yemenite_Jewish

Added to K13, academic samples:

Bosnian
Serbian Bosnia
Serbian (another ref)
Slovak
Slovenian
Montenegrin
Kosovar
Macednian
Greek_Macednian
Greek_Peloponese
Latvian
Russian_Pinega

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

Added to K13, academic samples:

Bosnian
Serbian Bosnia
Serbian (another ref)
Slovak
Slovenian
Montenegrin
Kosovar
Macednian
Greek_Macednian
Greek_Peloponese
Latvian
Russian_Pinega

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No way, i'm serbian :)

4.79089861 Serbian_2
5.25476926 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
6.24445856 Macedonian
6.36360747 Serbian
6.47237572 Montenegrin
6.80810546 Romanian_Oltenia
7.17518474 Bosnian
7.71079114 Bulgarian
7.82883133 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
7.88712162 Serbian_Bosnia
8.23652232 Romanian_Muntenia
8.43411525 Szekely
9.56461349 North_Macedonian
9.83250222 Csango_Gymes
10.86410144 Moldavian
13.04815801 Slovenian
13.36603905 Croatian
13.80887034 Hungarian
13.98351803 Kosovar
14.32474782 Albanian
15.56970991 GR_Macedonia
16.42651211 Greek_Thessaly
16.56041470 Slovak
17.44973710 GR_Peloponese
18.28445515 Austrian

arget: K13
Distance: 3.7540% / 3.75398302 | ADC: 0.5x
90.6 Serbian_2
6.2 Bosnian
3.2 Yemenite_Jewish

Target: K13
Distance: 2.2768% / 2.27677814 | ADC: 0.25x
83.6 Serbian_2
8.4 Belorussian
7.0 Yemenite_Jewish
1.0 Southwest_Russian

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Originally Posted by andre

Are you full romanian? Are you 100% from Maramures?

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Yes. Why?

Dodecad k7b for me:

Target: Bakha Distance: 1.3763% / 1.37625143 | ADC: 0.25x
36.0	Russian
29.8	C_Italian
21.4	Turkmens
6.6	Hazara
4.2	Uygur
2.0	Jatt

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Originally Posted by Bakha

Dodecad k7b for me:

Target: Bakha Distance: 1.3763% / 1.37625143 | ADC: 0.25x
36.0	Russian
29.8	C_Italian
21.4	Turkmens
6.6	Hazara
4.2	Uygur
2.0	Jatt

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Horrible. Italian score for a half central asian? Bullshit. After deleting italian wog sample:

Target: Bakha Distance: 1.3950% / 1.39500179 | ADC: 0.25x
31.6	Turkmens
30.8	Russian
28.8	North_Italian
8.8	Hazara

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Originally Posted by Bakha

Horrible. Italian score for a half central asian? Bullshit. After deleting italian wog sample:

Target: Bakha Distance: 1.3950% / 1.39500179 | ADC: 0.25x
31.6	Turkmens
30.8	Russian
28.8	North_Italian
8.8	Hazara

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I HAVE NEVER HATED ITALIANS LIKE I DO NOW

Target: Bakha Distance: 1.1384% / 1.13843456 | ADC: 0.25x
40.4	Russian
26.4	S_Italian_Sicilian
21.6	Turkmens
8.2	Uygur
1.8	Jatt
1.6	Hazara

FKIN WOGS I WILL DELETE ALL ITALIAN MONKEYS FROM SOURCE

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Originally Posted by Bakha

I HAVE NEVER HATED ITALIANS LIKE I DO NOW

Target: Bakha Distance: 1.1384% / 1.13843456 | ADC: 0.25x
40.4	Russian
26.4	S_Italian_Sicilian
21.6	Turkmens
8.2	Uygur
1.8	Jatt
1.6	Hazara

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Originally Posted by Carpatz

Yes. Why?

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You could be a good sample for "Romanian_Maramures", if you want.
From which part of Maramures did your grand parents come?

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Originally Posted by andre

No way, i'm serbian :)

4.79089861 Serbian_2
5.25476926 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
6.24445856 Macedonian
6.36360747 Serbian
6.47237572 Montenegrin
6.80810546 Romanian_Oltenia
7.17518474 Bosnian
7.71079114 Bulgarian
7.82883133 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
7.88712162 Serbian_Bosnia
8.23652232 Romanian_Muntenia
8.43411525 Szekely
9.56461349 North_Macedonian
9.83250222 Csango_Gymes
10.86410144 Moldavian
13.04815801 Slovenian
13.36603905 Croatian
13.80887034 Hungarian
13.98351803 Kosovar
14.32474782 Albanian
15.56970991 GR_Macedonia
16.42651211 Greek_Thessaly
16.56041470 Slovak
17.44973710 GR_Peloponese
18.28445515 Austrian

arget: K13
Distance: 3.7540% / 3.75398302 | ADC: 0.5x
90.6 Serbian_2
6.2 Bosnian
3.2 Yemenite_Jewish

Target: K13
Distance: 2.2768% / 2.27677814 | ADC: 0.25x
83.6 Serbian_2
8.4 Belorussian
7.0 Yemenite_Jewish
1.0 Southwest_Russian

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It was academic:) Ok, I removed this shit.

Gedmatch is fkin outdated bullshit

Target: BakhaFather Distance: 2.5450% / 2.54502748 | ADC: 0.25x
41.0	Uzbekistan_Jews
23.6	Hazara
15.2	Cypriots
9.4	Bnei_Menashe_Jews
8.0	Iraq_Jews
2.8	Ethiopians

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How can I change color gradient for the distances?

Edit: figured it out.

Does Romania need like 10 regions or something? I feel like we are falling slightly to the other extreme by adding individual users to represent the average for an entire region. Maybe if there are like minimum 5-6 samples for a region a new cluster can be added. Also why do we need counties to appear separately? Regional breakdown for a country is preferable, and only if there really is any true difference between them: Northern, Southern, Western, Eastern. With the exception of ethnic enclaves within a country, which deserve a separate cluster.

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Originally Posted by Dunai

Does Romania need like 10 regions or something? I feel like we are falling slightly to the other extreme by adding individual users to represent the average for an entire region. Maybe if there are like minimum 5-6 samples for a region a new cluster can be added. Also why do we need counties to appear separately? Regional breakdown for a country is preferable, and only if there really is any true difference between them: Northern, Southern, Western, Eastern. With the exception of ethnic enclaves within a country, which deserve a separate cluster.

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And what’s wrong? We just try to help Lukasz with samples. In this forum we are a lot of balkanic/eastern european people.. we are all tired by “vague” results. I hope that k13 calculator gonna be incresed with a lot of regional balkanic or central europe genetic samples.

Lukasz, could you add NW Croatian reference based on Ph2ter and his family, as well as Varaždin sample I know you have?
Edit: call it North Croatian rather.

No way I am closer to Slovenian and all these other people than to Serbian average.

Eurogenes K13

https://i.imgur.com/i6suqPk.jpg

@ Lukasz, why don't you use average from Poreklo I gave you?

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Originally Posted by andre

And what’s wrong? We just try to help Lukasz with samples. In this forum we are a lot of balkanic/eastern european people.. we are all tired by “vague” results. I hope that k13 calculator gonna be incresed with a lot of regional balkanic or central europe genetic samples.

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I will react when the results will be too fragmented. Already removed new Serbian reference because was too "Romanian".
Szekely reference now is also from few samples, not one.

https://imgur.com/a/ijnR14t

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

I will react when the results will be too fragmented. Already removed new Serbian reference because was too "Romanian".
Szekely reference now is also from few samples, not one.

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Do you have any samples from Chad?