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DA89 Gokturk
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...jeljQ&usqp=CAU
Gedrosia 23.62 Pct
Siberian 18.90 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.12 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.24 Pct
North_European 26.86 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 18.09 Pct
Caucasus -
Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct
Distance to: Gokturk
16.65927369 Bashkir_South
18.62774007 Tatar_Siberia
19.98584999 Tubalar
20.41608190 Altaian_Chelkan
21.14423089 Bashkir_Central
22.65941085 Uzbek
22.76302704 Turkmen_Afghanistan
23.31399151 Uzbeki
23.33350595 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
23.52068877 Shor
23.56797191 Karakalpak
23.91542389 Nogai_Astrakhan
24.15739017 Tatar_Zabolotniye
24.18180928 Lipka_Tatar
24.59267167 Nogai_Stavropol
25.52375952 Bashkir_North
25.69868090 Uyghur
25.86881520 Hazara
26.69570190 Udmurt
26.70805309 Besermyan_Udmurtia
27.38341834 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
27.51875724 Tatar_Kazan
27.57852607 Kazakh
28.35810466 Mari
28.64114348 Kyrgyz_Pamir
Target: Gokturk
Distance: 9.1574% / 9.15741212
57.9 Altaian_Chelkan
23.1 Irish
17.8 Burusho
1.2 Japanese
Two Tajik (not Afghan) results, never posted before. They must be Pamiris because their Aryan ancestry is going through the roof :eek: :cool:
#1
L-M357
B4c1
Gedrosia 31.44 Pct
Siberian 5.74 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.59 Pct
North_European 21.14 Pct
South_Asian 10.4 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.62 Pct
East_Asian 5.22 Pct
Caucasus 18.46 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.39 Pct
Distance to: Khurshed
4.08690592 Pamiri_Shughnan
4.83350804 Pamiri_Ishkashim
4.97885529 Pamiri_Rushan
5.15892431 Tajik_Lowland
7.17260064 Tajik_Mountain
8.35600383 Yagnobi
11.29297127 Pashtun_Kandahar
11.92586684 Tajik_Herat
12.61219251 Tajik_Kabul
14.34973519 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
14.77777385 Kho
15.61065021 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
15.85242568 Pashtun_Tarkalani
16.70909633 Turkmen_TM
17.65873438 Kalash
18.03260658 Pashtun_Yusafzai
18.36546760 Nuristani
18.53906416 Turkmen_Iran
20.05461543 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
20.50772537 Haryana_Ror
Target: Khurshed
Distance: 1.2301% / 1.23012327 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.4 Pamiri_Ishkashim
35.4 Tajik_Mountain
21.2 Pamiri_Shughnan
#2
Gedrosia 30.07 Pct
Siberian 4.72 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.58 Pct
North_European 23.08 Pct
South_Asian 11.82 Pct
East_African 0.22 Pct
Southwest_Asian 2.63 Pct
East_Asian 3.04 Pct
Caucasus 18.74 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.1 Pct
Distance to: Sino
3.38786068 Pamiri_Shughnan
4.03306335 Pamiri_Rushan
4.56221437 Pamiri_Ishkashim
6.87020378 Tajik_Lowland
8.23366261 Yagnobi
9.20174983 Tajik_Mountain
11.43022309 Pashtun_Kandahar
12.92873930 Tajik_Herat
13.47603799 Tajik_Kabul
14.62025308 Kho
14.74557222 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
15.32847024 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
15.58764254 Pashtun_Tarkalani
17.62356093 Kalash
17.88626568 Pashtun_Yusafzai
18.04147721 Turkmen_TM
18.39466771 Nuristani
19.50714228 Haryana_Ror
19.90325350 Turkmen_Iran
20.97104432 Tabasaran
Target: Sino
Distance: 1.4128% / 1.41282123 | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.5 Pamiri_Shughnan
18.0 Pamiri_Ishkashim
9.7 Tajik_Lowland
8.8 Balkan_Gypsy
Target: Sino
Distance: 2.5395% / 2.53953404 | ADC: 1x RC
50.7 Pamiri_Shughnan
26.7 Pamiri_Ishkashim
22.6 Tajik_Lowland
https://iranpoliticsclub.net/flags/I...ran%20Flag.jpg
I've checked the kit and the SNP count is pretty low (34,000 only). I think there was a better quality sample. Or maybe I'm mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
A Rouran (300-500 AD)
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...4f8e0b578d64fd
Probably Rourans were Proto mongols
Another Early medieval Turk Kimak DA87
https://scontent.fesb4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...4b&oe=606125D4
Altayli, you are spamming the thread with fucking old stuff. There is no rule against it but it's kinda annoying.
Samples must be modern? I think these samples are very interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I promise to you leto i will post 100% purebred INDO EUROPEAN STEPPE ULTRA VIKING WARRIORS:cool::cool::machine gun: too
(I'm taking these samples from a very secret place don't tell anyone:cool::spy::curtain:)
No, I mean they have been shared before. At least most of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
Don't know what this one might be. A Turkish-sounding name but zero Mongoloid. In fact he is 100% West Eurasian. Has both Turkish and Armenian matches.
Gedrosia 19.36 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.35 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.34 Pct
North_European 5.7 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.7 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 54.55 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Salim
3.76218022 Hemshin
3.83065269 Laz
3.95694326 Turk_Ahiska
4.74878932 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.29219236 Georgian_Adjara
5.89525233 Georgian_Turkey
5.97826898 Greek_Pontus
6.36622337 Georgian
6.55647009 Armenian_East
8.04302804 Georgian_Imereti
Target: Salim
Distance: 0.9386% / 0.93860491 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.4 Georgian_Adjara
26.3 Laz
20.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
1.9 Spanish_Basque
1.0 Sardinian
Target: Salim
Distance: 1.7725% / 1.77249716 | ADC: 0.5x RC
73.3 Laz
26.7 Udi_Azerbaijan
Impossible i get these samples from very secret place:cool::spy::ninja(especially aksaray ağaçören result i posted here before)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Probably he is from northeast Turkey i saw this result before pls post new results here this is very annoyingQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Dude, I don't remember it. Don't try to troll me now. I sort of run this thread, few people care anyway. But trolling isn't welcome here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
Reposting one or two old results is no problem. Doing it all the time is a bad idea.
Did you see my Aksaray ağaçören result before?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Of course you didn't see it before because i get this result from a secret place:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
Yes, that one was new. Okay, let's stop this debate, it's unnecessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
I don't have much to comment on Turkish results unless it's something very atypical and unique.
My results are ultra 100% unique and interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Weird how this guy has decent Gedrosia but no South Asian and barely any Caucasus. Normally they have similar or equal to at least one of those components depending on geographic (south asian in the east and Caucasus to the west)Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
I agree He has very interesting autosomal also DA89 Gokturk is same too he has 23 pct gedrosia 0 caucasus 0 south asianQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
I am still not sure whether early Turkics really had any Caucasus, i doubt that everything above 10% came from Turkic stock. On the other hand Gedrosia was present in high numbers, but no South Asian nor Atl_Med. Both components are definitely non-Turkic influences(Iranic most probably). I found the Botai sample which i posted many months ago, it hadn’t any Caucasus, but 20% Gedrosia(Botai culture was either Iranic, Ugric or Altaic(Turkic), but it seems they were Ugric).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Botai culture predates turkic or iranic. They don't seem to have any descend. They scored like 40% NOrth Euro 20% Gedrosia rest mogloid or something like this. They were the first culture to domesticate Horses according to current research, and the direct descend of those horses are the mongolian wild horses of today. The Botai culture 5000 years old. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botai_cultureQuote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
But the question is how can it be pure Gedrosia in Turkics when Iran_N as a standalone population was already extinct for thousands of years by the time of those first turks. BMAC at MOST was 75% Gedrosia (most being 40-60), and non EHG part of Yamnaya was mixed CHG with Iran N as well. So how can those Turks have pure Gedrosia without CHG/South Asia when such a population was extinct for so long. Therefore its probably from some more ancient source where perhaps Iran_N mixed with EHG/N European or even Mongoloid (or all 3)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
I just saw one sample, and it was neither Turkic nor Iranic(genetically!). If we get more samples we could say for certain what they were. You don’t need to explain me anything btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fedora
Distance to: Botai
16.45653670 Udmurt
18.34515740 Mari
20.76600587 Besermyan_Udmurtia
21.90489900 Chuvash
23.58355359 Tatar_Zabolotniye
24.91896667 Komi
25.03601805 Bashkir_North
25.32758180 Bashkir_Central
28.05387139 Bashkir_South
28.40052640 Tatar_Kazan
30.43240050 Tatar_Siberia
30.92036384 Tatar_Mishar
32.62162626 Russian_Ural
33.12807269 Russian_Arkhangelsk
35.20357794 Altaian_Chelkan
35.68134246 Veps
35.95610101 Mordovian
36.17558984 Shor
36.50976582 Lipka_Tatar
36.54271884 Russian_Kostroma
37.13271469 Tubalar
37.40698732 North_Russian
37.50848037 Karelian
38.11423225 Finnish_East
38.90310527 Russian_Ryazan
Target: Botai
Distance: 15.3637% / 15.36373770 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.9 Udmurt
23.0 Tatar_Zabolotniye
2.3 Meena
0.8 Kalash
This Botai sample also had a lot, wasn’t Gedrosia also present among every pre-Turkic steppe people like Scythians? Besides of that i can’t explain your points, they are interesting information but unfortunately i don’t have enough knowledge about that. Maybe Leto or someone else has ancient samples which can answer your questions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Aren't Botai people R1b and first horse riders?
Were they ugric? :icon_eek::icon_eek:
Yes Gedrosia is generally widespread (part due to Yamnaya other part due to BMAC mixing/assimilation) in however it almost always has CHG included in the west and some Indus valley / south asian in the east. Thats why im confused how that Kimak has basically none of both thoseQuote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
I don't know anything about Botai History or language to be honest. But those we have on Vahaduo are Y-tested, yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
BOT14:
R1b1a1a1a*
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y14051*/
BOT15:
C1b2a1
https://www.yfull.com/tree/C-M208/
The other 2 which were tested were both Women, with haplogroup Z1a
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...plogroup_Z.png
Georgian
Gedrosia 17.96 Pct
Siberian 0.53 Pct
Northwest_African 0.54 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.14 Pct
North_European 11.77 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.44 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 59.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.13 Pct
Distance to: nodo
2.46391964 Georgian_Gurian
3.16644912 Georgian_Svan
3.39378844 Georgian_Mingrelian
4.64486814 Abkhazian
5.00860260 Georgian_Imereti
6.31241634 Georgian
8.32234342 Georgian_Turkey
9.71459726 Turk_Ahiska
9.74066220 Georgian_Adjara
9.95668620 Ossetian_South
Target: nodo
Distance: 1.8613% / 1.86128411
67.1 Georgian_Mingrelian
19.8 Georgian_Svan
10.3 Georgian_Gurian
2.0 Lithuanian
0.8 Mandenka
Distance to: nodo
2.14304120 96.80% Georgian_Mingrelian + 3.20% Latvian
2.17685902 3.00% Finnish_East + 97.00% Georgian_Mingrelian
2.17813284 96.80% Georgian_Mingrelian + 3.20% Lithuanian
2.19114896 96.80% Georgian_Mingrelian + 3.20% Veps
2.19454857 96.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 3.40% Russian_Arkhangelsk
Interesting stuff
https://i.ibb.co/C7C2938/XX.png
Hi, I just wanted to tell you that Euro K13 is now quite good for you :) :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Buusra
Distance to: Buusra(Turkish_Avar)
5.64869897 Avar
5.93771842 Tabassaran
6.73479770 Chechen
6.82267543 Lak
7.23203982 Dargin
8.54088403 Lezgin
10.23274645 Ingush
10.27228310 Kabardin
11.70179046 North_Ossetian
12.00209982 Yagnobi
Distance to: Buusra(Turkish_Avar)
2.27656768 8.60% Italian_Sardinia + 91.40% Lak
2.54679828 93.00% Avar + 7.00% Italian_Sardinia
2.67698680 91.00% Dargin + 9.00% Italian_Sardinia
3.26781627 10.60% France_Corsica + 89.40% Lak
3.39161627 90.40% Dargin + 9.60% Moroccan
3.45658605 9.80% Algerian + 90.20% Dargin
3.46011756 11.40% Italian_Lazio + 88.60% Lak
3.46403931 92.00% Avar + 8.00% France_Corsica
3.47087347 90.40% Lak + 9.60% Spanish_Andalucia
3.48522366 90.40% Dargin + 9.60% Mozabite_Berber
Target: Buusra(Turkish_Avar)
Distance: 1.2925% / 1.29246934 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.4 Dargin
31.3 Kabardin
5.0 French_Basque
3.9 Kalash
0.4 North_Amerindian
Target: Buusra(Turkish_Avar)
Distance: 2.1279% / 2.12785066 | ADC: 0.5x RC
70.8 Avar
24.5 Kabardin
4.7 French_Basque
But it still shows some elevated West Mediterranean (French_Basque).
Turkish Cypriot from the Southern(Greek adm.) Cyprus, Esentepe/Αγιος Νικόλαος and Kalkanlı/Κάτω Αρόδες.
Code:Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.3
2 Southwest_Asian 18.66
3 Atlantic_Med 17.64
4 Gedrosia 10.18
5 North_European 3.78
6 Northwest_African 3.53
7 East_African 2.6
8 East_Asian 0.92
9 Southeast_Asian 0.2
10 South_Asian 0.19
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 7.46
2 Cypriots (Behar) 8.61
3 Druze (HGDP) 9.72
4 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 10.96
5 Syrians (Behar) 11.48
6 Jordanians (Behar) 12.48
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.84
8 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 13.55
9 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 13.86
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.94
11 Turks (Behar) 13.98
12 Palestinian (HGDP) 14.63
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.66
14 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 14.69
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.87
16 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.01
17 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.07
18 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.49
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.35
20 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.42
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 41% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.93
2 82.6% Druze (HGDP) + 17.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 2.94
3 83.1% Druze (HGDP) + 16.9% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 3.01
4 55.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 44.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.13
5 51.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 48.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.14
6 83.3% Druze (HGDP) + 16.7% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.2
7 83.4% Druze (HGDP) + 16.6% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.23
8 84% Druze (HGDP) + 16% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 3.26
9 84.4% Druze (HGDP) + 15.6% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 3.3
10 83.3% Druze (HGDP) + 16.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 3.31
11 84.5% Druze (HGDP) + 15.5% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 3.31
12 84.5% Druze (HGDP) + 15.5% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 3.32
13 83.3% Druze (HGDP) + 16.7% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 3.35
14 84.8% Druze (HGDP) + 15.2% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 3.38
15 55.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 44.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.38
16 84.3% Druze (HGDP) + 15.7% Spaniards (Behar) @ 3.39
17 84.9% Druze (HGDP) + 15.1% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 3.4
18 85% Druze (HGDP) + 15% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 3.42
19 83.1% Druze (HGDP) + 16.9% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 3.45
20 51.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 48.5% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.51
Code:Distance to: Yalçın
3.58408984 Nusayri_Turkey
4.46913862 Greek_Cypriot
5.53780642 Turk_Cyprus
5.70263974 Lebanese_Christian
7.13305685 Lebanese_Muslim
7.57921500 Palestinian_Christian
8.27773520 Syrian_SW_Christian
8.39453394 Jordanian_Christian
8.67143587 Greek_Cappadocia
9.76551586 Greek_Rhodes
9.93855623 Palestinian
10.30343632 Greek_Kos
10.86113254 Syrian_Muslim
11.32041077 Assyrian_West
11.38855127 Jordanian_Muslim
11.53955372 Iraqi_Jew
11.77907467 Assyrian_South
11.80038982 Sephardic_Jews
11.91859472 Kurdish_Jew
12.35284987 Armenian_West
12.40735669 Assyrian_North
12.67040647 Iranian_Jew
12.75049411 Azeri_Jew
13.11331003 Italian_Jews
13.12773019 Greek_Icaria
Distance to: Yalçın
1.68620272 62.60% Greek_Cypriot + 37.40% Lebanese_Muslim
1.85188706 49.20% Lebanese_Christian + 50.80% Turk_Cyprus
2.11310755 73.00% Greek_Cypriot + 27.00% Syrian_Muslim
2.13913960 64.00% Nusayri_Turkey + 36.00% Turk_Cyprus
2.21217250 53.60% Greek_Cappadocia + 46.40% Palestinian
2.21652473 80.40% Nusayri_Turkey + 19.60% Sephardic_Jews
2.26684679 17.60% Italian_Jews + 82.40% Nusayri_Turkey
2.27526001 81.40% Greek_Cypriot + 18.60% Iran_Arab
2.31836209 31.60% Egyptian + 68.40% Greek_Cappadocia
2.33925986 14.60% Ashkenazi_Jews + 85.40% Nusayri_Turkey
2.34703011 81.00% Greek_Cypriot + 19.00% Iraqi_Arab
2.35099690 78.00% Greek_Cypriot + 22.00% Iraqi_Baghdad
2.38817664 38.60% Syrian_SW_Christian + 61.40% Turk_Cyprus
2.38950878 57.20% Greek_Cappadocia + 42.80% Jordanian_Muslim
2.40138504 17.00% Greek_Icaria + 83.00% Nusayri_Turkey
2.41217297 41.00% Palestinian_Christian + 59.00% Turk_Cyprus
2.42525543 14.20% MD_Jewish + 85.80% Nusayri_Turkey
2.43830837 14.80% Italian_Calabria + 85.20% Nusayri_Turkey
2.45202392 72.00% Greek_Cypriot + 28.00% Palestinian
2.46073174 28.20% Coptic + 71.80% Greek_Cappadocia
2.49531408 41.00% Greek_Cypriot + 59.00% Nusayri_Turkey
2.51938340 14.60% Morocco_Jews + 85.40% Nusayri_Turkey
2.52252707 21.20% Greek_Rhodes + 78.80% Nusayri_Turkey
2.53317365 75.00% Greek_Cypriot + 25.00% Jordanian_Muslim
2.55784284 20.00% Greek_Kos + 80.00% Nusayri_Turkey
I found 2 other Botai samples(thank RatCat) i have their results now:
Botai1,17.43,27.27,0,1.39,0,48.11,4.68,0,0,0.97,0, 0.15
Botai2,20.62,29.44,0,0,0,46.76,3.18,0,0,0,0,0(alre ady posted)
Botai3,20.43,26.95,0,0,0,46.76,5.37,0,0,0.81,0,0.4 6
They are genetically very homogeneous and neither Iranic(or IE) nor Turkic. Maybe they were absorbed by other groups, since there is no any linguistical evidence we cant say what they were exactly. But genetically they were Ugic and the Ugric theory is scientific accepted. Considering this results personally i would assume they were maybe the ancestors of Ugrics, as far i know R1b, N, C and O were found among them but i am not sure.
Distance to: Botai3
15.70109869 Udmurt
18.11739220 Mari
19.67567280 Besermyan_Udmurtia
21.21726420 Chuvash
23.78102815 Tatar_Zabolotniye
23.87507277 Bashkir_North
24.11986111 Bashkir_Central
24.24956494 Komi
26.94788674 Bashkir_South
27.12885917 Tatar_Kazan
29.46917881 Tatar_Siberia
29.68535666 Tatar_Mishar
31.85657546 Russian_Ural
32.56871659 Russian_Arkhangelsk
34.44774013 Altaian_Chelkan
34.91246339 Lipka_Tatar
35.02830427 Mordovian
35.22524805 Veps
35.63308575 Shor
35.82524250 Russian_Kostroma
36.24450855 Tubalar
36.76384637 North_Russian
36.98392624 Karelian
37.55398647 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
37.73754894 Finnish_East
Target: Botai3
Distance: 14.1256% / 14.12563000
74.5 Udmurt
18.5 Tatar_Zabolotniye
5.3 Meena
1.7 Iyengar
Distance to: Botai1
14.62020178 Udmurt
16.25092920 Mari
18.82771096 Besermyan_Udmurtia
19.62361587 Chuvash
22.47389152 Komi
23.08220310 Bashkir_North
23.74191020 Bashkir_Central
23.77718024 Tatar_Zabolotniye
26.36499573 Tatar_Kazan
27.26867067 Bashkir_South
28.62578907 Tatar_Mishar
29.71841348 Tatar_Siberia
30.02157891 Russian_Ural
30.36076251 Russian_Arkhangelsk
32.90097719 Veps
33.41231061 Mordovian
33.94347949 Russian_Kostroma
34.78966513 North_Russian
34.79606587 Karelian
34.97358289 Lipka_Tatar
35.11160492 Altaian_Chelkan
35.36177032 Finnish_East
36.20519852 Shor
36.44094538 Russian_Ryazan
36.52796463 Finnish_West
Target: Botai1
Distance: 13.8639% / 13.86392287
80.4 Udmurt
16.7 Tatar_Zabolotniye
2.9 Iyengar
@DrMaul, they also have some South Asian. They are older than Turkics, maybe because of that? This samples look unmixed and seem to be just another children of the steppe.
Actually they look like VUR people tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
(Botai man)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/a7...9515792df0.jpg
"Damgaard et al. (2018) extracted aDNA from three different Botai individuals. Two of them turned out to be genetically male, and another one was genetically female. Two of the samples were taken from crania curated in Petropavlovsk Museum, denoted as "Botai Excavation 14, 1983" and "Botai excavation 15".Quote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
Autosomally, the Botai population turned out to be closer to the Ancient North Eurasian component than the Yamnaya population. No significant gene flow between Botai and Yamnaya was observed.
Botai 14, dated to 3517-3108 cal BC, carried a derived allele at R1b1a1-M478. Haplogroup R1b occurs almost exclusively in non-European populations, and reaches the highest frequencies in populations surrounding the Altai region, the common ancestor with major European R1b lived somewhat more than 13 000 years ago). Botai 15, dated to 3343-3026 cal BC, belonged to the basal haplogroup N*-M231. Regarding mitochondrial DNA, the Copper Age Botai sample BOT2016 belonged to the haplogroup Z1a, Botai 15 - to R1b1, and Botai 14 - to K1b2.
One more Botai individual, tested in September 2015, belonged to the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup K1b2 and (with the 97.1% probability) the Y-DNA haplogroup O2."
https://yfull.com/tree/R-P297/
https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...amgaard_SM.pdf
http://iggc.kz/wp-content/uploads/20...noyab-2016.pdf
Here is documentary abotu Botai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AGw8sMeZjg&t=
Beautiful lifestyle i love horses:o i have horse in my village tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Fedora
Here is an Ankaran result i don’t know which place he is from in Ankara.
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.92
2 Gedrosia 16.61
3 Atlantic_Med 12.28
4 Southwest_Asian 10.68
5 North_European 9.95
6 Siberian 3.75
7 East_Asian 3.47
8 Southeast_Asian 2.3
9 South_Asian 1.66
10 Northwest_African 0.23
11 East_African 0.16
Here is his myheritage results
https://youtu.be/E5ioSj_9Ums
He has 10% east eurasia but myheritage is just gave him to 3.1% Central Asia:picard1:
Myheritage is very stupid :picard2:
Soytarı Alman kertenkelesi seniQuote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
TBH I don't think Botai can really be attributed to any modern linguistic group, considering it is also predating YamnayaQuote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
Iranian from Razavi-Khorasan:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...n_Iran.svg.png
Gedrosian: 26.40
Siberian: 2.69
Northwest_African: 0.88
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.07
North_European: 9.83
South_Asian: 4.81
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.95
East_Asian: 4.68
Caucasian: 34.61
Sub_Saharan: 0.08
Distance to: Razavi_Khorasan
4.84012397 Iran_Khorasan
6.10478501 Iran_Central
6.57560644 Iranian_Fars
7.02479893 Iran_C_East
7.82733032 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.38143186 Azerbaijani
8.53269594 Yazidi
8.69619457 Iranian
8.90836124 Azerbaijani_Northwest
8.93473559 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
9.05430284 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.13436369 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.19631992 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.27832420 Kurd_Adygea
9.41834380 Kurd_Sorani
9.50842784 Azerbaijani_North
9.58945775 Lur_Iran
9.76070694 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.30681328 Iraq_Turkmen
10.68391782 Zaza
10.72655117 Turkmen_TM
11.18479325 Iran_Mazandaran
11.55554845 Turk_Southeast
13.65330363 Turk_South
14.11250155 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
Target: Razavi_Khorasan
Distance: 1.4105% / 1.41052672 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.6 Iranian_Fars
21.5 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
19.2 Iran_Mazandaran
17.7 Turkmen_Iran
12.5 Iran_Khorasan
1.5 Japanese