Serbian Autosomal DNA

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Vbnetkhio started emailing owners of kits registered under Serbo-Croatian surnames in order to obtain info about their ancestry. He succeeded in geting some new samples with that method, so he updated the existing Serbian averages accordingly. I'm posting this on his behalf:

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The regional averages (Serb_Serbia, Serb_B&H, Serb_Croatia) were formed by joining the samples of their respective subregions together with the samples of individuals who have ancestry from two or more subregions within one country. And, to create the general Serbian average, all of them were combined with the results of Serbs who either didn't specify their ancestral location or simply have regionally mixed ancestry. Montenegro doesn't have enough samples to be divded into subregions.

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29.53 Baltic is average for Dalmatian Serbs posted by vbnetkhio on page 57. Dalmatian+Lika Serbs can't have 29.53, because Lika Serbs have higher Baltic (posted by vbnetkhio on page 55) than Dalmatian Serbs.
I have two new Dalmatian Serb kits which are not included in vbnetkhio's average from page 57.

Why are Pribislav and Dushan fighting over 1% Baltic? 30 or 31% - what's the difference? In the grand scheme of things that doesn't freaking matter since any average is going to be based only on a limited number of samples, be it 10 or 100 (out of like 7 million Serbs).

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Originally Posted by Leto

Why are Pribislav and Dushan fighting over 1% Baltic? 30 or 31% - what's the difference? In the grand scheme of things that doesn't freaking matter since any average is going to be based only on a limited number of samples, be it 10 or 100 (out of like 7 million Serbs).

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Lika Serb average is for sure over 31% Baltic. I have seen tons of their results, they have clearly higher Baltic than Serbian average but little lower NA. I showed here kits of Lika and Banija Serb who are ignored by vbnetkhio, probably because they are too much northern shifted for his taste.
Lika and Dalmatian Serbs are not twins to be together, they are from two different regions with clearly defined borders.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

29.53 Baltic is average for Dalmatian Serbs posted by vbnetkhio on page 57. Dalmatian+Lika Serbs can't have 29.53, because Lika Serbs have higher Baltic (posted by vbnetkhio on page 55) than Dalmatian Serbs.
I have two new Dalmatian Serb kits which are not included in vbnetkhio's average from page 57.

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He told me that the avearges he had for Lika were already similar to Dalmatia and that it didn't change much when he combined them together and neither when he reinforced them with new samples.

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

He told me that the avearges he had for Lika were already similar to Dalmatia and that it didn't change much when he combined them together and neither when he reinforced them with new samples.

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Average for Lika Serb without Zubović was 31.45, check on page 55.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Average for Lika Serb without Zubović was 31.45, check on page 55.

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Yes, on page 55 he did indeed post a couple of provisional averages, but pretty soon he made new ones stating that he had removed the results of people whose ancestry he can't confirm in any way.

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Yes, on page 55 he did indeed post a couple of provisional averages, but pretty soon he made new ones stating that he had removed the results of people whose ancestry he can't confirm in any way.

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To fell from 31.45 on 29.53 necessary many Montenegrin like Baltic score. 2% is huge difference when sample is 20 or 30.

There is no answer why some results are ignored, this guy is Lika Serb and his result is not in average Attachment 98088

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

To fell from 31.45 on 29.53 necessary many Montenegrin like Baltic score. 2% is huge difference when sample is 20 or 30.

There is no answer why some results are ignored, this guy is Lika Serb and his result is not in average Attachment 98088

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That man is paternally a Serb from Lika for sure. However, we don't know his full origins, that's the problem. Out of that family he only included the results of Petar because I match him myself and the uploader left data about his grandparents. The two of them are closely related, but not that close - shared DNA is like between 2nd cousins. If it makes you feel better I recommended vbnetkhio to message the owner of those kits so we can clear things up. The email seems to be genealogy dedicated meaning he should at least get a reply.

Kinda off topic question for Serbian members: since my maternal side is 1/2 Lika Serbs and 1/2 Dalmatia Hinterland Serbs, paternal side is 1/2 East Herzegovina Serbs and 1/2 West Hercegovina Croats, what should I expect from my Baltic and North Atlantic score, I mean if there is any significant difference between regions. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Average for Lika Serb without Zubović was 31.45, check on page 55.

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Serbs are 35% Med, 30% Baltic, 25% North Atlantic and 8% West Asian

Chaotic admixture.