Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

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Originally Posted by Laberia

Source?

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Laberia on my side.... for the first time ever.....

:cool:

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Originally Posted by Trojet

Great job Saf!
It's hard to see mine there, but anyways here is where I am :D
http://i64.tinypic.com/2415abk.jpg

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My father is plotted slightly southeast of you, and me slightly south west towards Tuscan from you.

I2 is originally not Slavic, but indigenous in the Balkan.

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Originally Posted by Loki

I2 is originally not Slavic, but indigenous in the Balkan.

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You keep repeating that for years without any proof except a eupedia map. the evidence is mounting against it, Loki. With all due respect, it's a lost cause.

There is a big group of Bosnians who settled in Albania after anexion of Bosnia to the Austro-Hungarian empire. Could be it I guess. They were moving to Turkey but they stoped in Albania and never left it.

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Originally Posted by opsticle

There is a big group of Bosnians who settled in Albania after anexion of Bosnia to the Austro-Hungarian empire. Could be it I guess. They were moving to Turkey but they stoped in Albania and never left it.

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Could just be Slavs or Aromanians that picked up I2a1b from Slavs and had many sons

I think those guys are responsible for that : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiounitai

For the last time.... I2a1 in the Balkans is NOT Slavic in origin... it is Paleolithic.


The highest frequency of I2a1 (I-P37) in the Balkans today was present before the Slavic expansion and is owed to indigenous tribes,[64] and is particularly suggested to have been common among the ancient Thracians in Romania. source


Kushniarevich, A; Utevska, O; Chuhryaeva, M; Agdzhoyan, A; Dibirova, K; Uktveryte, I; Möls, M; Mulahasanovic, L; Pshenichnov, A; Frolova, S; Shanko, A; Metspalu, E; Reidla, M; Tambets, K; Tamm, E; Koshel, S; Zaporozhchenko, V; Atramentova, L; Kučinskas, V; Davydenko, O; Goncharova, O; Evseeva, I; Churnosov, M; Pocheshchova, E; Yunusbayev, B; Khusnutdinova, E; Marjanović, D; Rudan, P; Rootsi, S; et al. (2015). "Genetic Heritage of the Balto-Slavic Speaking Populations: A Synthesis of Autosomal, Mitochondrial and Y-Chromosomal Data".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4558026/

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Originally Posted by Scholarios

You keep repeating that for years without any proof except a eupedia map. the evidence is mounting against it, Loki. With all due respect, it's a lost cause.

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Here I just posted evidence above, dude. Enjoy.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4942718

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Originally Posted by Loki

For the last time.... I2a1 in the Balkans is NOT Slavic in origin... it is Paleolithic.


The highest frequency of I2a1 (I-P37) in the Balkans today was present before the Slavic expansion and is owed to indigenous tribes,[64] and is particularly suggested to have been common among the ancient Thracians in Romania. source


Kushniarevich, A; Utevska, O; Chuhryaeva, M; Agdzhoyan, A; Dibirova, K; Uktveryte, I; Möls, M; Mulahasanovic, L; Pshenichnov, A; Frolova, S; Shanko, A; Metspalu, E; Reidla, M; Tambets, K; Tamm, E; Koshel, S; Zaporozhchenko, V; Atramentova, L; Kučinskas, V; Davydenko, O; Goncharova, O; Evseeva, I; Churnosov, M; Pocheshchova, E; Yunusbayev, B; Khusnutdinova, E; Marjanović, D; Rudan, P; Rootsi, S; et al. (2015). "Genetic Heritage of the Balto-Slavic Speaking Populations: A Synthesis of Autosomal, Mitochondrial and Y-Chromosomal Data".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4558026/

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1850 Latin speakers in Serbia 120.000 (Vlachs)

Of those 120.000 at least 80% got assimilated into Serbs.

Can you imagine how many Thracians have been assimilated into Slavic populace from 500 A.D. to 2000 A.D. (1500 years)

Yet people can't believe the fact that Western Balkans was extremely Latin oriented region.

Of course those assimilated Latins (Thracians, Illyrians) are no other people than Balkan Vlachs (Serbs, Romanians, Bosnians) etc... and they are I2a1b people