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Thread was made by Bosniensis and was purged, you stated Oghial is a russian loanword due to russification - you didn't realize it was used by several Moldavian authors and is a regional word in western Moldova as well. Nurzat can attest, since you replied to his list of Moldavian regional words.Quote:
Originally Posted by ixulescu
No, I didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
I said oghial is a regionalism with a small spread, in places with many East Slavic speakers (which in Western part of Moldova are only a few), because it is not known by many Moldovans.
This has nothing to do with Russification. Russification is a deliberate political process. The use of words like oghial has nothing to do with it.
Stop putting words in my mouth. You and Nurzat do this all the time. Read properly what I say, not what you think I say.
Surname Balan
Could be either from Moldavia or R. Moldova, as I wasn't able to confirm the location. I sent an email, so hopefully they will confirm.
# Population Percent 1 Baltic 28.72 2 North_Atlantic 25.37 3 West_Med 15.23 4 East_Med 13.75 5 West_Asian 10.56 6 Red_Sea 1.85 7 South_Asian 1.45 8 Siberian 1.38 9 Oceanian 0.74 10 Amerindian 0.7 11 Sub-Saharan 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Serbian 3.27 2 Moldavian 5.29 3 Romanian 5.75 4 Croatian 8.14 5 Bulgarian 8.16 6 Hungarian 8.22 7 Austrian 11.85 8 East_German 13.2 9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.43 10 South_Polish 15.19 11 Ukrainian 15.86 12 Greek_Thessaly 16.71 13 West_German 17.34 14 Polish 18.81 15 South_Dutch 18.91 16 Southwest_Russian 19.03 17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.21 18 French 19.27 19 North_Italian 19.5 20 Tatar 20.73
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 72% Romanian + 28% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.43 2 61% Ukrainian_Lviv + 39% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.44 3 52.2% Moldavian + 47.8% Romanian @ 1.44 4 81.6% Moldavian + 18.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.56 5 58.8% Ukrainian + 41.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.66 6 80.5% Romanian + 19.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.71 7 82.4% Romanian + 17.6% Estonian @ 1.72 8 59.2% Romanian + 40.8% Croatian @ 1.75 9 77.4% Romanian + 22.6% Polish @ 1.77 10 73.4% Romanian + 26.6% South_Polish @ 1.79 11 74.2% Romanian + 25.8% Ukrainian @ 1.79 12 80.7% Moldavian + 19.3% Tuscan @ 1.81 13 64.6% Serbian + 35.4% Moldavian @ 1.81 14 79.2% Romanian + 20.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.81 15 82.9% Romanian + 17.1% East_Finnish @ 1.86 16 73.9% Croatian + 26.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.88 17 82.3% Romanian + 17.7% Finnish @ 1.9 18 83% Moldavian + 17% West_Sicilian @ 1.92 19 83% Romanian + 17% Lithuanian @ 1.92 20 79.8% Romanian + 20.2% Estonian_Polish @ 1.98
From Botosani
# Population Percent 1 Baltic 26.54 2 North_Atlantic 24.93 3 West_Med 16.4 4 East_Med 15.34 5 West_Asian 12.19 6 Red_Sea 1.75 7 Siberian 1.24 8 East_Asian 0.9 9 Oceanian 0.49 10 Amerindian 0.2 11 South_Asian 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Romanian 3.34 2 Serbian 3.36 3 Bulgarian 5.67 4 Moldavian 8.04 5 Hungarian 10.59 6 Croatian 10.95 7 Austrian 13.51 8 Greek_Thessaly 14.25 9 East_German 15.27 10 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.3 11 North_Italian 17.6 12 West_German 17.97 13 South_Polish 17.98 14 Tuscan 18.46 15 Ukrainian 18.65 16 French 19.16 17 South_Dutch 19.54 18 Italian_Abruzzo 19.8 19 Central_Greek 20.86 20 Portuguese 21.51
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 92.3% Serbian + 7.7% Balkar @ 1.4 2 92.1% Serbian + 7.9% Kabardin @ 1.47 3 92.8% Serbian + 7.2% North_Ossetian @ 1.51 4 93% Serbian + 7% Ossetian @ 1.57 5 92.7% Serbian + 7.3% Adygei @ 1.58 6 94.1% Serbian + 5.9% Abhkasian @ 1.61 7 93.8% Serbian + 6.2% Georgian @ 1.68 8 92.1% Serbian + 7.9% Kumyk @ 1.7 9 92.6% Serbian + 7.4% Chechen @ 1.78 10 73.5% Romanian + 26.5% Moldavian @ 1.79 11 71.6% Moldavian + 28.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.86 12 86.3% Romanian + 13.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.92 13 93% Serbian + 7% Lezgin @ 1.96 14 92% Serbian + 8% Nogay @ 1.98 15 89% Romanian + 11% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.98 16 86.9% Romanian + 13.1% South_Polish @ 2 17 87.4% Romanian + 12.6% Ukrainian @ 2.01 18 80.2% Romanian + 19.8% Croatian @ 2.02 19 51.5% Ukrainian + 48.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.04 20 90.6% Romanian + 9.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.05
Give me his kit number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Kit number please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
most Moldovan-speaking county is Vaslui, this is where all these words are from, Vaslui is far away from any Slavic settlers place like Suceava or Maramures or even Botosani. the hundreds of local words of Old Slavic origin are in no way coming from Russians or Ukrainians, I bet they were inherited from our Early Slavic ancestors that Vlachs found in the region when they arrived. those words have been in use one thousand years ago as well, I bet. while Romanians in Suceava live next to Slavs and they don't use most words one can quote from Vaslui. so your theory has no ground. the Slavic Moldovan regional words are heritage from that side of our ancestry that is Early SlavicQuote:
Originally Posted by ixulescu
The point was that ogheal is a regionalism of limited spread. My mom is 100% Moldovan and never heard of ogheal. You're extending your own experiences to everyone else. That doesn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nurzat
well you said you are from an upper middle class family, maybe your folks spoke standard Romanian at home, there are some Moldovans that do that in that social class. anyway by your entire discourse on any topic you seem totally disconnected from the realities in Romania in general and in Moldova region in particular. countryside Vaslui is pure Middle Ages in language, mentality and looksQuote:
Originally Posted by ixulescu
Ţîcu, Ungheni, R. Moldova, relative of the Eurogenes kit JR2297171
# Population Percent 1 Baltic 29.21 2 East_Med 21.13 3 North_Atlantic 18.73 4 West_Med 15.46 5 West_Asian 10.82 6 Oceanian 1.7 7 Red_Sea 0.92 8 Sub-Saharan 0.72 9 Siberian 0.68 10 South_Asian 0.39 11 Amerindian 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Bulgarian 6.23 2 Romanian 7.52 3 Serbian 9.23 4 Moldavian 11.27 5 Greek_Thessaly 13.37 6 Croatian 14.21 7 Hungarian 15.87 8 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.71 9 Central_Greek 19.82 10 Austrian 19.85 11 Italian_Abruzzo 20.49 12 Tuscan 20.6 13 Ukrainian 20.72 14 South_Polish 20.77 15 East_Sicilian 21.08 16 East_German 21.16 17 Ashkenazi 21.49 18 North_Italian 21.63 19 West_Sicilian 21.77 20 Southwest_Russian 22.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% Cyprian @ 3.64 2 56.6% Estonian_Polish + 43.4% Cyprian @ 4.12 3 59.6% Southwest_Russian + 40.4% Cyprian @ 4.23 4 53.5% Central_Greek + 46.5% Southwest_Russian @ 4.29 5 55.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.3 6 51.7% Ashkenazi + 48.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.31 7 56% Belorussian + 44% Cyprian @ 4.34 8 52.1% Lithuanian + 47.9% Cyprian @ 4.34 9 58.1% Polish + 41.9% Cyprian @ 4.45 10 56.9% Russian_Smolensk + 43.1% Cyprian @ 4.46 11 61.8% South_Polish + 38.2% Cyprian @ 4.47 12 56.1% Southwest_Russian + 43.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.5 13 51.7% Southwest_Russian + 48.3% South_Italian @ 4.51 14 51.4% Ashkenazi + 48.6% Southwest_Russian @ 4.52 15 56% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44% Italian_Jewish @ 4.53 16 63.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 36.9% Cyprian @ 4.55 17 51.9% Estonian + 48.1% Cyprian @ 4.59 18 53.8% Central_Greek + 46.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.6 19 66.1% Ukrainian + 33.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.61 20 63.9% Greek_Thessaly + 36.1% Southwest_Russian @ 4.63