Serbian Autosomal DNA

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Originally Posted by Ljubic

It is shit but forging results just because of low selfesteem is much shittier. These fools put Serbs on this Forum in a bad light.

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I am not familiar with background of this story but doing that is simply pathetic (no matter who and which side), it's on the level with who is whiter/blonder threads, meaningless and pointless, there are outliners anyway (people who are well above/bellow average) so I don't see the purpose of identifying with the whole nation, it seems that individualism is dead on Balkan and everything is about country/nation (I haven't noticed that among other people except Balkaners about everything and South Europeans when it comes to pigmentation and hair color).

Did Pribislav leave the forum?

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Originally Posted by Leto

Did Pribislav leave the forum?

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They returned to the Serbian "forum.poreklo.rs" where are active posting on the thread "Eurogenes K13 Autosomalna genetika Srba Banije, Korduna i ostalih srpskih predela". The "barbarylion" (Pribislav?) and "Душан" (Dušan), mainly "barbarylion", didn't have nice words about what happened here, speaking about some anti-Serbian propaganda, that those Serbs posting here don't have a clue about genetics, mocked the and that Croatian averages got removed and twisting facts how the events went by, acting as if have some victim complex and so on. Strange people.

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Originally Posted by MoroLP

They returned to the Serbian "forum.poreklo.rs" where are active posting on the thread "Eurogenes K13 Autosomalna genetika Srba Banije, Korduna i ostalih srpskih predela". The "barbarylion" (Pribislav) and "Душан" (Dušan), mainly "barbarylion", didn't have nice words about what happened here, speaking about some anti-Serbian propaganda, that those Serbs posting here don't have a clue about genetics, mocked the and that Croatian averages got removed and twisting facts how the events went by, acting as if have some victim complex and so on. Strange people.

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i am aware of this. the worst thing is they are misleading those people on the Serbian forums. they are presenting their "averages", or "clusters" as they call them, as the ultimate truth.
They are also obsessed with that Slavic/Paleo-Balkan/Celto-Germanic Vahaduo calculator which somebody on this forum made for fun. they are using it to prove who has more or less Slavic genetics, or that the "Albanians are 0% Celto-Germanic", etc.

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Originally Posted by MoroLP

They returned to the Serbian "forum.poreklo.rs" where are active posting on the thread "Eurogenes K13 Autosomalna genetika Srba Banije, Korduna i ostalih srpskih predela". The "barbarylion" (Pribislav) and "Душан" (Dušan), mainly "barbarylion", didn't have nice words about what happened here, speaking about some anti-Serbian propaganda, that those Serbs posting here don't have a clue about genetics, mocked the and that Croatian averages got removed and twisting facts how the events went by, acting as if have some victim complex and so on. Strange people.

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That's not the alias of Pribislav, but of HungryLion. A guy that is downright obssesed with proving that Serbs his own region, Banija, have the most proto-Slavic or proto-Serbian heritage of all. Some time ago he forged several results presenting them as random Serbian individuals from Banija, Kordun and other places and gave them to Pribislav who then shared them on TA and other forums.
Funny thing is, apart from the obvious hypocrisy that a dude like that is calling others fake, he never shared his own results properly either. Not only have we never seen his kit number, but he never showed the oracles for a single one of the gedmatch calculators either. Literally the only thing we know about his results are his components and even that's not always consistent - the Eurogenes K15 he originally shared is different from the Eurogenes K15 he claims to be his today :)

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

That's not the alias of Pribislav, but of HungryLion...

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Then my mistake, I am not familiar with them, but if am not wrong we are speaking about 3 guys or accounts (maybe one sock).

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Originally Posted by MoroLP

Then my mistake, I am not familiar with them, but if am not wrong we are speaking about 3 guys or accounts (maybe one sock).

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Yes, three people in total although Pribislav hasn't been active on poreklo for a long time. And Dušan only supports them because the cherrypicked avearges are a better fit for his own results, although, to be frank, the difference is marginal. Plus he had nothing to do with that story of the forged results, so let's not give people the wrong impression.

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

That's not the alias of Pribislav, but of HungryLion. A guy that is downright obssesed with proving that Serbs his own region, Banija, have the most proto-Slavic or proto-Serbian heritage of all. Some time ago he forged several results presenting them as random Serbian individuals from Banija, Kordun and other places and gave them to Pribislav who then shared them on TA and other forums.
Funny thing is, apart from the obvious hypocrisy that a dude like that is calling others fake, he never shared his own results properly either. Not only have we never seen his kit number, but he never showed the oracles for a single one of the gedmatch calculators either. Literally the only thing we know about his results are his components and even that's not always consistent - the Eurogenes K15 he originally shared is different from the Eurogenes K15 he claims to be his today :)

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His results aren't even that exceptionally Slavic if I remember correctly. Would make more sense if his Baltic was high but it's actually some Germanic ancestry pulling him further "North".

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Yes, three people in total although Pribislav hasn't been active on poreklo for a long time. And Dušan only supports them because the cherrypicked avearges are a better fit for his own results, although, to be frank, the difference is marginal. Plus he had nothing to do with that story of the forged results, so let's not give people the wrong impression.

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Thank you for explanation.

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Originally Posted by Ford

His results aren't even that exceptionally Slavic if I remember correctly. Would make more sense if his Baltic was high but it's actually some Germanic ancestry pulling him further "North".

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Right, he scores more Baltic than average, but still far from any extreme. However, practically all Serbs I've seen that have elevated Baltic, also have normal or lowered North Atlantic aka Celto-Germanic ancestry. This unavoidably makes him fall into the Zagreb cluster, no matter how many averages he makes.
But, again, whether those results are even legitimate is another story. Of course, I didn't doubt them at first, since I'd never seen any Serb or Balkanite attempt to fake gedmatch results, but today I notice things that I didn't before. If, for example, you go to the FTDNA thread on poreklo, you'll see that once he received his results from the company, the first gedmatch calcutor scores he shared weren't even screenshoted or copied, but typed out !? And not for a single one did he provide an oracle, apart from the K13 which Kaspias gave him on TA based on the components he posted.