Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

R1a or R1b of course.

People like you can't comprehend the fact that people from Bosnia, Bulgaria, Romania ruled the region's all up to Finland then got destroyed by R1a and R1b who came from Asia.

I2 was formed in Serbia (Core I2) then conquered everything North of Greece.

Before R1 invasions I2 was the primary Haplogroup in Europe and in Formed on Western Balkans.

I2a1b people are remenants of the remenants ...

I2 and I1 should be protected by UNESCO xD

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I2 most probably originated from I people in around west Europe as the oldest I2 sample is from Palaeolithic Switzerland

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Maybe becouse someone is butthurt about his own origin and started to think that it is indogeneous.

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Loki changed it even though he is E-V13, idk why people still persist on I2a1b in the Balkans being native when every possible piece of evidence shown today debunks it

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

Loki changed it even though he is E-V13, idk why people still persist on I2a1b in the Balkans being native when every possible piece of evidence shown today debunks it

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Maybe some clades, but most of them are not indeed.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Maybe some clades, but most of them are not indeed.

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The classes carried by South Slavs arent native. The only type of I2a1b which could be found in WHG samples from the Balkans is I2-L161.1 which is the brother clade of I2a-Din and they split off from I2a1b around NW Europe

I2a2 was/is indigenous marker, I2a1 however is new as it came during Slavic expansion in Balkans, Loki should revise his position on this.

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

The classes carried by South Slavs arent native. The only type of I2a1b which could be found in WHG samples from the Balkans is I2-L161.1 which is the brother clade of I2a-Din and they split off from I2a1b around NW Europe

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Yep, bu then we have a question who was these I2a1b which have modern Slavs, since it's proved they weren't in the Pripyat area, like we thought before.

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Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior

I2a2 was/is indigenous marker, I2a1 however is new as it came during Slavic expansion in Balkans, Loki should revise his position on this.

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Exactly. I2a2a1 was the main Ydna found among Balkan WHG, I think there could be some native I2a1 as well such as I2a1a and perhaps I2a1-L161.1 but I2a1-Din for sure isn’t native

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Yep, bu then we have a question who was these I2a1b which have modern Slavs, since it's proved they weren't in the Pripyat area, like we thought before.

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The I2a1b in Slavs originally came from the Hunter-Gatheres of NW Europe so it migrated east into east Europe, I would say that the expansion of I2a1b-Din into the Balkans occurred around Poland or Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Yep, bu then we have a question who was these I2a1b which have modern Slavs, since it's proved they weren't in the Pripyat area, like we thought before.

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Maybe they weren't there in past, but they are now :)

Modern Slavic men in Pripyat area are around 20%+ I2-dinaric, higher concentration than usual among northern Slavs.

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Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior

I2a2 was/is indigenous marker, I2a1 however is new as it came during Slavic expansion in Balkans, Loki should revise his position on this.

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He is still stuck in 2013 and thinks he's trolling with this stuff. Sad part is he doesn't even know this forum just degraded to almost totally meaningless pop culture memes and no one cares anyways.