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On Serbian dna project I found 8 tested Serbs from born village of "Morlach" leader Stojan Janković https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Žegar,_CroatiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
Lukić (Žegar) - I2-PH908
Krnjaja (Žegar) - I2-PH908
Milić (Žegar) - I2-PH908
Prodanović (Žegar) - I2-PH908
Ušljebrka (Žegar) - I2-PH908
Rakić (Žegar) - I2-PH908
Nanić (Žegar) - I2>I-S17250
Mirilo (Žegar) - I2>I-Z17855
Thanks for the heads up!
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Originally Posted by Dick
Morlach stronk!
There's no Iron age illyrian sample, the only one that used to be was russian-like and even out of the euro cluster in the north-east part but the albos got it removed, and i'm repeating again what i've just previously said: you cannot model modern populations using 2 ancient ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Here is a portion of academic Armenian, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Scottish, Welsh and Irish samples:
Eurogenes K15 at first:
I'm posting all individuals instead of averages as each group has some diversity, would be cool to check it.Code:Sample,North_Sea,Atlantic,Baltic,Eastern_Euro,West_Med,West_Asian,East_Med,Red_Sea,South_Asian,Southeast_Asian,Siberian,Amerindian,Oceanian,Northeast_African,Sub_Saharan
arm10,5.08,2.60,0,1.47,8.84,37.88,34.81,3.92,5.39,0,0,0,0,0,0
arm11,5.75,0,0,2.65,6.39,42.68,39.77,1.70,0.14,0,0,0,0.82,0,0.08
arm12,0,0,1.60,0,8.96,56.88,29.79,0.56,0,0.36,0.56,0.24,0.26,0.42,0.36
arm13,2.98,9.33,8.04,5.82,6.28,34.95,25.13,3.23,3.43,0,0.81,0,0,0,0
arm14,11.94,9.82,16.61,13.00,5.04,21.53,16.35,3.12,0,0,1.29,0.28,0.75,0,0.26
arm17,5.92,1.12,0,3.52,7.90,37.07,36.04,5.38,1.75,0.43,0,0,0.87,0,0.01
arm18,5.25,0,0,0,10.12,44.59,38.30,0.64,0.48,0,0.57,0,0.04,0,0
arm19,2.71,0,2.21,1.72,0.97,38.09,49.89,0.68,2.97,0,0,0,0,0,0.77
arm20,1.22,0,3.66,0,8.48,58.17,25.02,2.04,0,1.04,0,0,0.37,0,0
arm21,16.86,7.81,22.31,19.70,7.02,17.68,5.91,0,1.62,0,0,0.04,0.44,0.28,0.32
arm23,0,0,0,2.58,10.97,51.06,32.46,2.45,0.25,0,0,0,0.23,0,0
arm26,1.87,0.69,0.61,0,10.85,50.12,28.31,4.42,2.83,0,0,0.10,0,0,0.20
arm3,1.49,0,3.31,0.18,9.91,37.93,42.51,2.41,0.09,1.29,0,0.10,0.78,0,0
arm4,3.29,0,0,3.72,2.86,50.60,36.21,0.01,2.19,0,0,0.86,0.27,0,0
arm5,0.04,0,0.16,0.22,9.84,50.73,35.55,2.17,1.26,0,0,0,0,0,0.03
arm6,0,2.52,0.12,0,10.81,48.86,36.58,0,0.60,0.03,0,0.08,0.41,0,0
arm7,11.08,10.80,12.96,13.79,3.21,19.60,18.75,4.11,1.83,0,2.74,0,0.59,0.24,0.31
arm8,0,9.25,0,0,6.15,40.87,39.15,3.40,0,0,0,1.06,0.12,0,0
arm9,1.87,2.50,4.23,2.09,7.82,36.98,35.38,3.20,5.14,0,0,0.78,0,0,0
armenia102,0,6.81,5.69,0,0,44.54,39.78,1.90,0.30,0.65,0,0,0.32,0,0
armenia106,7.34,0.24,1.41,0,3.10,39.20,44.85,0,3.57,0.27,0.02,0,0,0,0
armenia139,2.97,0,0.57,0,4.92,37.06,48.17,4.71,0.93,0,0,0.21,0.46,0,0
armenia162,0,8.42,0,0,3.77,44.18,36.55,5.91,0.95,0,0,0,0.18,0,0.03
armenia176,6.02,0,0.70,0.59,10.72,36.67,34.60,6.22,4.45,0,0,0,0.03,0,0
armenia191,0,5.28,0,6.65,4.10,44.57,37.22,1.96,0,0,0,0,0.22,0,0
armenia279,0,0.52,0,4.60,3.41,36.11,48.58,5.60,0.15,0.07,0,0.18,0.78,0,0
armenia293,0,6.33,0.55,0,1.62,42.23,47.33,0,1.31,0.59,0,0,0.04,0,0
armenia3,0.73,5.75,1.81,5.44,7.39,36.98,35.74,4.11,1.87,0,0,0.17,0,0,0
armenia36,0,0,3.53,0,8.46,41.35,42.78,1.99,1.57,0,0,0,0.33,0,0
armenia7,2.97,5.78,0.39,0.60,8.66,35.62,36.45,6.82,2.43,0,0,0.06,0,0.21,0
armenia71,1.55,4.79,0,3.06,2.28,42.81,36.49,5.34,3.50,0,0,0.18,0,0,0
armenia73,8.16,0,0.03,2.50,1.33,39.99,43.95,1.53,1.73,0,0.27,0,0.31,0.10,0.10
armenia80,3.55,3.38,3.40,0,8.24,34.99,35.36,8.43,2.56,0,0,0.09,0,0,0
armenia86,0,8.96,2.71,0,1.75,41.34,40.48,2.21,2.56,0,0,0,0,0,0
armenia91,0,3.73,0,0.97,6.32,43.99,37.15,5.97,0.99,0,0,0.38,0.52,0,0
IRL001,39.37,31.48,9.03,10.19,6.27,2.82,0,0,0.45,0,0,0.39,0,0,0
IRL002,37.21,34.81,10.86,5.04,7.49,2.47,0,0,1.09,0,0,1.03,0,0,0
IRL003,35.66,30.04,9.92,8.49,9.29,5.15,0,0,0.20,0,0.45,0.37,0.42,0,0
IRL004,34.39,31.87,7.40,6.87,8.52,9.12,0.81,0,0,0,0,0.49,0.53,0,0
IRL005,40.87,28.70,8.04,9.82,6.82,2.77,0,0,1.76,0,0,1.24,0,0,0
IRL006,34.90,31.85,9.80,8.59,6.90,5.45,0,0,0,0,0,1.47,1.01,0,0.03
IRL007,39.28,30.92,8.73,9.26,7.46,3.12,0,0.95,0,0,0,0.05,0.14,0.09,0
SCO002,34.08,29.85,9.56,11.15,7.81,2.71,1.81,0.75,1.70,0,0,0.56,0,0,0
SCO003,32.72,35.46,12.98,6.69,4.83,5.17,0,0.81,0.62,0.15,0,0.56,0,0,0
SCO005,40.45,31.03,8.58,8.09,6.12,4.05,0.90,0,0.50,0,0,0.08,0.11,0.09,0
SCO006,42.15,22.91,9.45,7.35,10.08,3.52,3.46,0.68,0,0,0,0.21,0,0.06,0.11
SCO008,34.29,32.85,7.22,12.06,8.16,4.21,0,0,0.86,0,0,0.12,0.23,0,0
Scottish1,33.95,29.75,9.68,11.22,7.78,2.97,1.56,0.76,1.72,0,0,0.57,0.05,0,0
Scottish2,32.92,35.36,12.85,6.83,4.80,4.95,0,0.89,0.71,0.05,0,0.64,0,0,0
Scottish4,40.67,30.90,8.19,8.24,6.16,3.96,1.00,0,0.56,0,0,0.08,0.10,0.14,0
Scottish5,41.55,23.02,9.45,7.51,10.05,3.68,3.58,0.75,0,0,0,0.28,0,0.14,0
Scottish6,34.37,32.89,7.23,12.20,8.19,3.94,0,0,0.84,0,0,0.11,0.23,0,0
UAE004,0,1.44,0,9.04,0,28.45,20.44,3.62,24.62,0,0,1.07,0.60,0.88,9.84
UAE005,1.64,0,0,0.38,3.37,14.54,36.68,24.64,7.71,0,0,0,0.47,5.41,5.17
UAE008,0,1.55,4.50,4.38,0,21.98,15.03,2.98,47.20,0.82,0.92,0,0,0,0.63
UAE038,1.99,0,0,0,4.64,10.42,41.48,34.42,1.36,0.41,0,0.53,1.00,3.75,0
UAE041,0,3.96,0.75,1.60,0,17.40,28.82,13.25,13.48,0,0.13,0.50,0.02,7.07,13.02
UAE042,0.11,2.58,0,0,2.49,9.58,43.28,35.64,1.62,0.41,1.12,0,0,3.18,0
UAE047,0,0,0,3.40,0.06,13.48,34.31,26.07,12.57,0,0.71,0,0,5.87,3.53
UAE048,0,1.54,0,3.28,1.58,15.97,37.06,21.39,8.30,0,0.07,0,0,5.31,5.49
UAE090,0,3.06,0,0,0.77,7.67,44.15,40.58,0.85,0.18,0,0,0.64,2.10,0
UAE1,0,1.44,0.01,8.92,0,28.67,20.41,3.54,24.57,0,0,1.05,0.64,0.94,9.81
UAE10,0,3.13,0,0,0.86,7.48,43.93,40.65,1.03,0.06,0,0,0.72,2.13,0
UAE11,0,0.21,1.37,0,1.74,9.04,43.40,36.62,3.57,0,0.25,0.60,0.61,2.61,0
UAE111,0,0.23,1.66,0,1.46,8.80,43.35,36.85,3.62,0,0.34,0.55,0.60,2.54,0
UAE12,0,0,0,6.09,0.52,15.81,31.94,20.39,10.07,0,0,0.13,0.67,3.60,10.77
UAE125,0,0,0,6.03,0.62,15.91,31.91,20.30,10.04,0,0,0.10,0.68,3.65,10.78
UAE127,1.25,0,0,0.03,5.81,12.50,42.61,32.58,0.39,0,0.53,1.20,0.60,2.50,0
UAE13,1.36,0,0,0,6.03,12.65,42.19,32.62,0.38,0,0.49,1.17,0.60,2.50,0
UAE131,0,0.83,0,1.33,4.44,9.50,23.24,12.49,40.47,0.16,1.39,0.87,0.97,3.09,1.22
UAE14,0,0.59,0,1.50,4.42,9.56,23.22,12.67,40.28,0.36,1.25,0.86,0.92,3.33,1.04
UAE2,1.43,0,0,0.27,3.62,14.50,36.89,24.54,7.61,0,0,0,0.54,5.39,5.20
UAE3,0,1.34,4.60,4.37,0,21.87,15.17,2.94,47.45,0.68,0.92,0,0,0,0.65
UAE4,2.26,0,0,0,4.76,10.06,41.45,34.37,1.31,0.46,0,0.56,0.99,3.78,0
UAE5,0,4.11,0.70,1.56,0,17.45,28.70,13.31,13.26,0,0.08,0.56,0,7.26,13.01
UAE6,0.04,2.82,0,0,2.57,9.36,43.30,35.54,1.47,0.37,1.15,0,0,3.38,0
UAE7,0,0,0,3.65,0,13.30,34.31,26.12,12.58,0,0.72,0,0,5.58,3.74
UAE8,0,1.33,0,3.39,1.79,16.01,37.16,21.21,8.23,0,0.07,0,0,5.19,5.63
UAE9,0,0,2.64,7.97,0,18.78,10.57,1.86,18.87,0,0.29,0,0.11,7.93,30.99
WAL001,33.85,35.44,10.76,5.71,8.28,3.99,0,0.62,0.37,0,0,0.86,0.12,0,0
WAL002,34.48,29.58,10.77,9.73,7.33,5.76,0.37,0,0,0,0,0.11,0.51,1.33,0.04
WAL003,33.31,26.26,13.62,11.42,9.53,4.21,0,0.84,0.81,0,0,0,0,0,0
WAL004,35.42,30.92,7.69,10.80,8.71,4.63,0,0.29,0.37,0,0,1.18,0,0,0
Welsh1,33.37,35.67,11.00,5.56,8.15,4.02,0,0.60,0.43,0,0,0.96,0.22,0,0
Welsh2,34.70,29.51,10.82,9.59,7.16,5.67,0.67,0,0,0,0,0.16,0.49,1.18,0.05
Welsh3,33.12,26.06,13.82,11.60,9.41,4.38,0,0.83,0.77,0,0,0,0,0,0
Welsh4,35.46,30.87,7.76,10.50,8.60,4.80,0,0.41,0.35,0,0,1.24,0,0,0
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Edit:
Wait a moment I will post Eurogenes K15 averages for these samples as well, below:
Armenia 35 academic samples:
Ireland 7 academic samples:Code:Armenia35avg,3.16,3.33,2.76,2.71,6.24,40.51,35.75,3.03,1.68,0.14,0.18,0.14,0.26,0.04,0.07
Scotland 10 academic samples:Code:Ireland7avg,37.38,31.38,9.11,8.32,7.54,4.41,0.12,0.14,0.50,0,0.06,0.72,0.30,0.01,0
UAE, 27 academic samples:Code:Scotland10avg,36.72,30.40,9.52,9.13,7.40,3.92,1.23,0.46,0.75,0.02,0,0.32,0.07,0.04,0.01
Wales 8 academic samples:Code:Uae27avg,0.37,1.12,0.60,2.49,1.91,14.47,33.15,22.64,13.44,0.14,0.39,0.36,0.42,3.67,4.83
Code:Welsh8avg,34.21,30.54,10.78,9.36,8.40,4.68,0.13,0.45,0.39,0,0,0.56,0.17,0.31,0.01
Yes there is, available on G25 and cited in recent Roman study. It is North Italian like. Sample you speak about had laughable low number of snps are thus funny results.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProudBrit
The sample you're thinking of that got removed was a Bronze Age sample from Montenegro.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProudBrit
Armenia35avg compared to updated K15 spreadsheet:
https://i.imgur.com/PYRMwcS.png
Scotland10avg compared to updated K15 spreadsheet:
https://i.imgur.com/5LL0TVa.png
Ireland7avg compared to updated K15 spreadsheet:
https://i.imgur.com/yEMC38r.png
Welsh8avg (I guess there was no Welsh average so far?):
https://i.imgur.com/0xoJSJv.png
Okay. Can you post some quotes on people from the Dinarics speaking Romance (from that time period)? I haven't really heard of such people and info isn't easy to find on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
United Arab Emirates samples, only top 1st closest population to each sample:
Distance to: UAE8
10.65488620 Bedouin
Distance to: UAE7
15.68126589 Bedouin
Distance to: UAE6
3.90126902 Saudi
Distance to: UAE5 [strong SSA admixture]
19.75588520 Syrian
Distance to: UAE4
3.87944584 Saudi
Distance to: UAE3
11.75433537 Sindhi
Distance to: UAE2
9.51299112 Bedouin
Distance to: UAE14
29.24029070 Makrani
Distance to: UAE131
29.31642884 Makrani
Distance to: UAE13
5.76034721 Saudi
Distance to: UAE127
5.47792844 Saudi
Distance to: UAE125 [strong SSA admixture]
16.88413160 Bedouin
Distance to: UAE12 [strong SSA admixture]
16.93124331 Bedouin
Distance to: UAE111
5.49577110 Saudi
Distance to: UAE11
5.13335173 Saudi
Distance to: UAE10
8.36545277 Saudi
Distance to: UAE1
6.72547396 Iranian_Bandari
Distance to: UAE090
8.32863134 Saudi
Distance to: UAE048
10.71774230 Bedouin
Distance to: UAE047
15.56169978 Bedouin
Distance to: UAE042
3.97232929 Saudi
Distance to: UAE041 [strong SSA admixture]
19.81676058 Syrian
Distance to: UAE038
3.93472998 Saudi
Distance to: UAE008
11.61099479 Sindhi
Distance to: UAE005
9.74378776 Bedouin
Distance to: UAE004
6.89483865 Iranian_Bandari
Distance to: UAE9 [strong SSA admixture]
31.73575428 Iranian_Bandari
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SUMMARY:
Saudi = 10 occurences
Bedouin = 8 occurences
Iranian_Bandari = 3 occurences
Makrani = 2 occurences
Syrian = 2 occurences
Sindhi = 2 occurences