Iron Age and Early Medieval Polish DNA coming soon

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Originally Posted by Litvin

Yes it seems so. Baltic or Baltic Finnic? Ward's Dendrogram for Niem_34 (made by Mlukas):

http://i.imgur.com/kaTX2N1.png

Niemcza people also had raher unusual skulls when compared to other Early Medieval Poles:

https://www.academia.edu/31578238/Bi...raits_analysis

https://s22.postimg.org/vauc7kaf5/19-9ab907c04d.jpg

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Since it's 900-1000 AD, maybe Magyars? Poland has 10% N1c from somewhere. Probably more Magyar admixture than Hungary.

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Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian

Since it's 900-1000 AD, maybe Magyars? Poland has 10% N1c from somewhere. Probably more Magyar admixture than Hungary.

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Not Magyars, that's the stupidest thing I heard hehe

Niemsza look like some Baltic tribe, Yotvingians or something.

Generally those results are of course from smaller number of snps. And in such case minor regional components are usually lacking. But those which stayed show obvious trends in specific genomes. If somebody was mostly NW-Euro he has elevated to enormous level North Sea frequency for example, but I'm sure with bigger number of snps he would be still NW-Euro but more averaged.

I agree that Niemcza looks Baltic influneces from some reason.

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Originally Posted by Cniva

He was north-east Bulgarian but his dad was a Ostrogoth.

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1. If father was a Goth, how on earth he wasn't?! :picard1:
2. How could he be a Bulgarian, if father was a Goth? :picard1:
3. More than that - how could he be a Bulgarian, if Bułgarians didn't yet arrived there? :picard1:

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Originally Posted by Cniva

(hleb - hleifs - bread)

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And becasue of this, every Pole is buying a Lord or couple of Lords every day... :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Dick

Well, all Slavs say hleb/chelb/leb for a loaf of bread except for Croats.

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And Russkies, becasue they call by chleb mainly a corn/grain.

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Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian

Since it's 900-1000 AD, maybe Magyars? Poland has 10% N1c from somewhere. Probably more Magyar admixture than Hungary.

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In majority of researches was 0.5-1.5% (usually around 1%).
Lastly Leftpedia changed on 4%... thats all.

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Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley

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In majority of researches was 0.5-1.5% (usually around 1%).
Lastly Leftpedia changed on 4%... thats all.

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lol, look closer to their (Polish) phenotypes, wild small eyes etc., Poland has Ugro-Finnic people, 4% is +/- good number

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Originally Posted by Cniva

Not Magyars, that's the stupidest thing I heard hehe

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Acually we had some hungarian settlement, especially in southern Poland, but also farther,
sometimes leaving behind place's names containgng ther ethnonim, but not always, BUT 1.
impact of general population was very low, becasue the settlement was very few in number
comparing to general population 2. 99.53% of so called Hungarians is not original, i.e. has
different than N hg, 3. majority of polish N is living rather on the north than on the south,
so lofgically, they came rather from people colse to Esthonians and Livs, than Magyars.

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Originally Posted by Gianluigi

4% is +/- good number

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According to FT DNA it has 4.45, but it is not representative, and containing mostly pre-IIWW population.

Lebusland has from example 100% of R1 and only 8 specimens :p

So, real % of N is probably lower I guess.

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Originally Posted by Gianluigi

lol, look closer to their (Polish) phenotypes, wild small eyes etc., Poland has Ugro-Finnic people, 4% is +/- good number

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Jak ci?

https://d-pt.ppstatic.pl/k/r/1/c9/87...jpg?1441279085

Polish N-hat, called Magierka (i.e. Magyar hat).
Different types depending on original N subethnic root :p

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...%2C_Krakau.JPG

http://www.hobby-welna.pl/media/prod...?lm=1473933465

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NCP3ei26Hs...2Bmagierka.png

http://www.hobby-welna.pl/media/prod...?lm=1467345622

http://etnomuzeum.eu/file/obiekty/139pb_322.jpg

http://www.hobby-welna.pl/media/prod...?lm=1466791463

http://www.hobby-welna.pl/media/prod...?lm=1466738278