DNA test results of Chris596

Thank you everyone for the answers! Yeah I guess I am very distant from original Hungarians. One thing is sure: we have always been a very simple family, working class, so thinking about it, my result are not so surprising now.

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Originally Posted by Chris596

Yeah I guess I am very distant from original Hungarians.

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Autosomally, most people are distant from the original elites. But E-V13 was found in Hungarian Conquerors.

Conqueror periodK1/13 Karos I/13 895- mid Xth c. M215 V13 E1b1b

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...997v1.full.pdf

Now I'm creating a thread about my admixture results and different interesting websites. In those I usually get between 10 and 24 percent West-Asian, I don't know why though. Maybe Myheritage messed up this part?

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Originally Posted by Chris596

Now I'm creating a thread about my admixture results and different interesting websites. In those I usually get between 10 and 24 percent West-Asian, I don't know why though. Maybe Myheritage messed up this part?

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I think some West Asian already is included in the Balkan component

Your K13 and k12b on Vahaduo:


Distance to: Chris596_K13
3.07429667 Serb_Serbia
3.41593325 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.50615174 Serb
3.56098301 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
3.71216918 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.71474091 Serb_Croatia
3.73577301 Serb_Herzegovina
3.75217270 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
3.76512948 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
3.82555878 Serb_Serbia_South&East
3.82898159 Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
3.84419042 Moldova_Centre
4.33033486 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.34477848 Moldova_average
4.53433567 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.56758142 Bosniak
4.69849976 Serb_B&H_Krajina
4.71746754 Romanian_Transylvania
4.89528344 Serb_B&H
5.06457330 Bosniak_Sarajevo
5.32372990 Croat_Split
5.33772423 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
5.74744291 Montenegrin
5.80947502 Bulgarian_Sofia
5.84596442 Romanian_Oltenia


Target: Chris596_K13
Distance: 2.0449% / 2.04488908 | ADC: 0.25x
70.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
17.6 Pomak_Plovdiv
9.8 Macedonian_Greece
2.2 Bosniak_Tuzla
0.4 Dai


Distance to: Chris596_K12b
5.91297725 Romanians
6.53159246 Macedonian
6.87491091 Bosnian
6.88148966 Pomak
7.66978487 Croat
7.94051006 Bulgarians
8.04980124 Bulgarian
10.17477272 Gagauz
12.14235562 Albanian_North
12.84259320 Turk_Romania
13.02103299 Hungarians
13.28316212 Italy_FriuliVG
13.41330683 Turk_Bulgaria
13.45176940 Albanian_Kosovo
15.05067108 Turk_Greece
15.23754902 Turk_Macedonia
15.52394795 Italy_Trentino
15.65429262 Italy_Veneto
17.02204049 Swiss_Italian
17.51813643 Italy_Piedmont
18.14812670 Italy_Aosta_Valley
18.92031367 Italy_Lombardy
19.24409780 German
19.56522139 Italy_Liguria
19.71423067 Italy_Emilia

Target: Chris596_K12b
Distance: 1.6277% / 1.62767438 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Croat
40.8 Bulgarians
6.4 Romanians
5.2 Italy_Trentino
0.4 JPT30

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Originally Posted by Chris596

Now I'm creating a thread about my admixture results and different interesting websites. In those I usually get between 10 and 24 percent West-Asian, I don't know why though. Maybe Myheritage messed up this part?

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MyHeritage is often very off with estimating East-Central Europeans. Even if 23andMe is much more expensive, but they are way more accurate in determining from which regions you inherited your genes from. Looking at your K13 results I don't think you would get more than 20-25% Balkan on 23andMe. I haven't seen a full Székely get more than 20% Balkan on 23andMe. As a comparison I get 28.5% Balkan on MyHeritage and 8% on 23andMe.

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Originally Posted by Dunai

MyHeritage is often very off with estimating East-Central Europeans. Even if 23andMe is much more expensive, but they are way more accurate in determining from which regions you inherited your genes from. Looking at your K13 results I don't think you would get more than 20-25% Balkan on 23andMe. I haven't seen a full Székely get more than 20% Balkan on 23andMe. As a comparison I get 28.5% Balkan on MyHeritage and 8% on 23andMe.

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If not under Balkan then it will fall under South European. But we both know that this doesn't mean Italian or Spanish in the case of Hungarians.

Chris' K13

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# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.12
2 North_Atlantic 24.09
3 East_Med 17.62
4 West_Med 16.39
5 West_Asian 9.84
6 East_Asian 1.64
7 Sub-Saharan 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.89
2 Romanian 5.87
3 Bulgarian 6.94
4 Moldavian 7.53
5 Croatian 9.77
6 Hungarian 10.72
7 Austrian 14.38
8 East_German 15.65
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.73
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.06
11 South_Polish 16.52
12 Ukrainian 16.92
13 North_Italian 19.81
14 West_German 19.83
15 Southwest_Russian 19.9
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.1
17 Polish 20.13
18 Tuscan 20.61
19 French 21.39
20 South_Dutch 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.2% Bulgarian + 27.8% Ukrainian @ 2.62
2 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% South_Polish @ 2.63
3 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% Belorussian @ 2.67
4 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% Lithuanian @ 2.72
5 77.7% Bulgarian + 22.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.76
6 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Polish @ 2.81
7 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.87
8 81% Bulgarian + 19% Estonian @ 2.87
9 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.92
10 76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.99
11 59.8% Bulgarian + 40.2% Croatian @ 3.03
12 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.16
13 81.6% Bulgarian + 18.4% Finnish @ 3.32
14 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% South_Italian @ 3.33
15 51.9% Greek_Thessaly + 48.1% Ukrainian @ 3.37
16 57.5% Ukrainian + 42.5% Central_Greek @ 3.38
17 51.3% Greek_Thessaly + 48.7% South_Polish @ 3.41
18 80.6% Romanian + 19.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.5
19 82.4% Bulgarian + 17.6% East_Finnish @ 3.51
20 80.8% Romanian + 19.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.52

My K13

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# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.33
2 North_Atlantic 25.27
3 West_Med 15.21
4 East_Med 13.04
5 West_Asian 9.95
6 Siberian 2.85
7 East_Asian 1.83
8 Red_Sea 1.42
9 South_Asian 0.7
10 Oceanian 0.4


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.31
2 Moldavian 5.04
3 Romanian 7.02
4 Croatian 7.86
5 Hungarian 8.13
6 Bulgarian 9.24
7 Austrian 11.88
8 East_German 13.07
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.8
10 South_Polish 14.54
11 Ukrainian 15.09
12 West_German 17.6
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.77
14 Polish 18.25
15 Southwest_Russian 18.34
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.59
17 South_Dutch 19.05
18 Tatar 19.21
19 French 19.66
20 North_Italian 20.22


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Serbian + 16.9% Tatar @ 1.87
2 88% Serbian + 12% Chuvash @ 1.97
3 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% Mari @ 2.25
4 79.3% Romanian + 20.7% East_Finnish @ 2.33
5 76.6% Romanian + 23.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.48
6 78.8% Romanian + 21.2% Finnish @ 2.58
7 55.7% Serbian + 44.3% Moldavian @ 2.65
8 87.2% Serbian + 12.8% Erzya @ 2.66
9 61.2% Ukrainian + 38.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.71
10 73.3% Bulgarian + 26.7% Finnish @ 2.73
11 60.5% Moldavian + 39.5% Romanian @ 2.77
12 86.8% Serbian + 13.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.82
13 83.8% Moldavian + 16.2% Tuscan @ 2.83
14 67.8% Romanian + 32.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.83
15 84.9% Moldavian + 15.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.86
16 69.8% Romanian + 30.2% Ukrainian @ 2.86
17 79.4% Romanian + 20.6% Estonian @ 2.88
18 74.2% Bulgarian + 25.8% East_Finnish @ 2.91
19 71.7% Bulgarian + 28.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.91
20 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Erzya @ 2.93

My 23andme, 43% Balkan
https://i.imgur.com/6u6CDlA.png

MyHeritage, 88% Balkan
https://i.imgur.com/xt78Q7k.png

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Originally Posted by Chris596

That's really cool! Nothing, I'm just trying to understand it right now but I'm very tired.

Edit: I mean, I expected to get mostly Balkan, but not this much lol. Almost like I'm fully Serbian or Albanian haha.

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Hmmm, not really.

My Heritage lists Balkan as Eastern E.

I got roughly 70 % Balkan on there, but on Ancestry I'm almost 50% EE 50 % Balkan.

Proper Balkanites score a significant % Greece and Italy on MH.

So, you need more testing :).

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

If not under Balkan then it will fall under South European. But we both know that this doesn't mean Italian or Spanish in the case of Hungarians.

Chris' K13

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.12
2 North_Atlantic 24.09
3 East_Med 17.62
4 West_Med 16.39
5 West_Asian 9.84
6 East_Asian 1.64
7 Sub-Saharan 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.89
2 Romanian 5.87
3 Bulgarian 6.94
4 Moldavian 7.53
5 Croatian 9.77
6 Hungarian 10.72
7 Austrian 14.38
8 East_German 15.65
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.73
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.06
11 South_Polish 16.52
12 Ukrainian 16.92
13 North_Italian 19.81
14 West_German 19.83
15 Southwest_Russian 19.9
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.1
17 Polish 20.13
18 Tuscan 20.61
19 French 21.39
20 South_Dutch 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.2% Bulgarian + 27.8% Ukrainian @ 2.62
2 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% South_Polish @ 2.63
3 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% Belorussian @ 2.67
4 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% Lithuanian @ 2.72
5 77.7% Bulgarian + 22.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.76
6 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Polish @ 2.81
7 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.87
8 81% Bulgarian + 19% Estonian @ 2.87
9 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.92
10 76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.99
11 59.8% Bulgarian + 40.2% Croatian @ 3.03
12 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.16
13 81.6% Bulgarian + 18.4% Finnish @ 3.32
14 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% South_Italian @ 3.33
15 51.9% Greek_Thessaly + 48.1% Ukrainian @ 3.37
16 57.5% Ukrainian + 42.5% Central_Greek @ 3.38
17 51.3% Greek_Thessaly + 48.7% South_Polish @ 3.41
18 80.6% Romanian + 19.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.5
19 82.4% Bulgarian + 17.6% East_Finnish @ 3.51
20 80.8% Romanian + 19.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.52

My K13

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# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.33
2 North_Atlantic 25.27
3 West_Med 15.21
4 East_Med 13.04
5 West_Asian 9.95
6 Siberian 2.85
7 East_Asian 1.83
8 Red_Sea 1.42
9 South_Asian 0.7
10 Oceanian 0.4


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.31
2 Moldavian 5.04
3 Romanian 7.02
4 Croatian 7.86
5 Hungarian 8.13
6 Bulgarian 9.24
7 Austrian 11.88
8 East_German 13.07
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.8
10 South_Polish 14.54
11 Ukrainian 15.09
12 West_German 17.6
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.77
14 Polish 18.25
15 Southwest_Russian 18.34
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.59
17 South_Dutch 19.05
18 Tatar 19.21
19 French 19.66
20 North_Italian 20.22


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Serbian + 16.9% Tatar @ 1.87
2 88% Serbian + 12% Chuvash @ 1.97
3 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% Mari @ 2.25
4 79.3% Romanian + 20.7% East_Finnish @ 2.33
5 76.6% Romanian + 23.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.48
6 78.8% Romanian + 21.2% Finnish @ 2.58
7 55.7% Serbian + 44.3% Moldavian @ 2.65
8 87.2% Serbian + 12.8% Erzya @ 2.66
9 61.2% Ukrainian + 38.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.71
10 73.3% Bulgarian + 26.7% Finnish @ 2.73
11 60.5% Moldavian + 39.5% Romanian @ 2.77
12 86.8% Serbian + 13.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.82
13 83.8% Moldavian + 16.2% Tuscan @ 2.83
14 67.8% Romanian + 32.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.83
15 84.9% Moldavian + 15.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.86
16 69.8% Romanian + 30.2% Ukrainian @ 2.86
17 79.4% Romanian + 20.6% Estonian @ 2.88
18 74.2% Bulgarian + 25.8% East_Finnish @ 2.91
19 71.7% Bulgarian + 28.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.91
20 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Erzya @ 2.93

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I just took another look at his East Med and West Med percentages on K13 and they are both 16-17, which is surely unprecedentedly high in any Hungarian result I have seen thus far on K13, even among Csángó and Székely. Now it would be interesting if someone would plot him on K15 PCA, but have a feeling Chris is even more Southern-shifted than Kökény.

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Originally Posted by Kamilla13

Hmmm, not really.

My Heritage lists Balkan as Eastern E.

I got roughly 70 % Balkan on there, but on Ancestry I'm almost 50% EE 50 % Balkan.

Proper Balkanites score a significant % Greece and Italy on MH.

So, you need more testing :).

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Yes indeed, but the strangest thing is that I didn't get any proper Eastern European at all :confused: