Shia is a religion and branch of Islam (Twelvers). Azeris and Persians are Shia. Alevis are considered as Shia in main faith with several differences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
So, what the fuck you think that somebody can't be turk and shia? You stupid neo ottoman moron.
Let's do the same thing in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, etc. The Iranian government is insane, yes, but Iranians are actually one of the nicest people over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ölüezgi
Instinct you are probably one of the typical Turkish wannabe "seculars".Quote:
Originally Posted by Instinct
Secularism only exists in words with you. In reality you don't know what it means. You feel insulted about what Ice says about shia's and ask for respect while at the same time you insult Yazidi Kurds by using "Yazidi" as insult against him. And now use Kurds as an insult when it suits you.
Turkey was never really secular neither real Muslim but always a totaliterian racist state. You guys are simply not capable of a working democratic society.
On one side you have too radical wannabe "muslims" on the other side wannabe "seculars" who believe secularism is all about beeing against the headscarf and living a western livestyle.
Yazid is Yezid, means barbar, cruel. The son of Muawiya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demhat
I didn't mean Yazidi religion. I know Yazidi Kurds and feel sorry for them when I see them on the death march. Fuck ISIS.
You are not turkish alevi.You're either caferi or some confused kurdish alevi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Instinct
Pkk has many alevis in his ranks.. They also don't want peace between majority of turks and majority of kurds. I think you should join pkk.
Which alevi politicians? Only kilicdaroglu is alevi and his kurdish aswell.. baykal was karaçay.
You are even a bigger threat to turks than pkk.. You idiot just dont realise it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Instinct
I am a Turkish Alevi, descendant of Begdili Clan. (Begdili Aşireti). I'd say and be proud if I would be a Kurdish Alevi but I am not, how many times I would say? If you are a Laz, do I need to be Kurdish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
You should create your own so called lazistan instead of being a dog of us. xD go away now.
Laz'a bak laz'a, sen kimsin laz?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
Siktir olup gideceksin ülkemden ki gitmişsin zaten, senin gibi Atatürk'e hakaret eden, aydınlıktan yana olmayan tüm pislikler gitsin ülkemden.
I didn't say sunnis are best. there are plenty of radical shia islamists and supporters of the current regime in iran. you're underestimating them.Quote:
Originally Posted by KawaiiKawaii
Someone should ban this indian looking alevi.. Things can get ugly..
Yeni turkiye'de senin gibilere yer yok..Quote:
Originally Posted by Instinct
You have indian ancestry on the map stupid moron sunni laz xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Ice
I always support azeri's in their fight for freedom, while this alevi is backing up iran and shia imperialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_ne...on_controversy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhwgyU7KZK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vSf1D--eaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tyTKOlCT0Y
Yeni Türkiye mi? Hahaha, seküler Sünniler ve Aleviler çok güzel anlaşıyorlar ülkede de işte senin gibi üç beş laz, kürt, arnavut çok üremişler maalesef.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
Don't make me laugh again... You are hatred towards Azeris cause they're Shia and have Qizilbash culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
You see that you are the only problem in the world. All the members say that Sunnis are the biggest terrorists and threats for whole world, like al qaeda and ISIS but very soon France and Iran both are going to kick your terrorist ass.
I look whiter than you, butthurt? You stupid laz product.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
That's not indian it's central asian.. European wannabe aryans are dying to have that. I got more ANE than average brit, german or greek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Instinct
I think original aryans live in india(upperclass, thus not youre look alikes) and some places in afghanistan and maybe iran. I can't deny their linguistic impact though.
go to afghanistan and join al qaeda or go to ISIS and join your fellow sunni brothers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
What has isis to do with me? You bring isis, so people who are reading this topic would chose your side? Or they will think i support isis?Quote:
Originally Posted by Instinct
Iran and azerbaijan were once sunni, they should be sunni again.. it would be good for iranians too. they have oil, but they can't even produce plastiic or macaroni. Why? they give billions to shia arabs in iraq, lebanon while average iranian in iran is very poor.
Al Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Nusra and other radical islamist terrorist organisations are your fellow sunni brothers. I think you should be careful that they might arrest you because of your radical responses. You know, the Europe is against the Sunni Terrorism in their own countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
Iran and Azerbaijan both are happy with their religion and culture. You should sell your identity and religion instead of suggesting them seriously, don't make me laugh.... xD
Aren't Shiites discriminated everywhere else but Iran? This is why they have to give them billions. Also Iran has the best education system in the region, they've produced great scientists. They're isolated by the rest of the world, this is why they're poor I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
He is a pro yezid. Yezid means barbaric, cruel by the way. This is how we call those barbars in our culture. As you mentioned Iran and Azerbaijan are the only countries where Shiites are majority and they are the moderate muslims.Quote:
Originally Posted by KawaiiKawaii
Turkey is mostly Sunni 80% (Half of it secular), 20% Alevi.
These neo ottomans have problems with Alevis and this is why they burned 37 Alevi writer, philosopher and poets in Sivas. They also killed over 200 Alevis in Marash and killed many Alevis in Çorum and Malatya. These radical islamists like Ice know that we are the guarantee of secularism in Turkey so we are their first goal to murder.
Iran is very important for sunni islam. Hadith scholars are mostly persian. I have also read rumi's mesnevi and sadi. Both persian.
It's a shame that a sunni sheikh was not happy about his position and became suddenly shia, and his grandson ismail invented qizilbash and has killed every sunni (turkoman,kurd,arab etc). And made iran shia.. If iran was a sunni country, they'd be like turkey, maybe even more developed.
But... Why? Why does being Sunni means being more developed? What has Iran's underdevelopment to do with Iran being Shiite? I don't understand you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
Until ataturk's reforms persian was very important in turkey. It was a must for every educated turk to speak persian, and memorize some parts of firdovs'is shahname, mesnevi or sadi. Ataturk didnt like this, he banned persian and arabic words, he replaced them with mongol (not even chagatay!), or french counterparts.
go to saudi arabia if you don't like Atatürk's modern revolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
He doesn't mean development actually. He means terrorism, he knows that an Islamic republic like Iran would fund ISIS and Al Qaeda if Iran would be sunni. So, this is why he says that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KawaiiKawaii
Iran is creating constant chaos.. They use their oil to support shia arabs. There is also proxy war going on between russia/china/india and israel/usa/saudi arabia. Iran is backed up by russia. They have to fight, not for their country but for russia's interests. If iran wasnt shia, arabs or muslims would still fight each other, but not on this level.. Turkey and iran could unite against wahabis..Quote:
Originally Posted by KawaiiKawaii
Alevi dog has provoked me and i said some bad shit about persians. Hope this will fix it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVGN5CpI8gU
Turkey is a secular state, so why do you try to involve Turkey to every scum of pro sunnis like wahabis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
You used to put Alevi cultural songs on TA, and now you try to insult hahaha you funny sunni yezid shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
And Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. use their oil to support Sunnis and create constant chaos through international terrorism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
This is not a Shiite problem, but a general problem in the Middle East about people not being able to respect their neighbors without trying to impose their views on them.
If an armenian or anatolian (karamanides,pontic) greek said this. it could mean something. But who are you? Go to iran, turkey is sunni country. Kurdistan will be sunni too. There is no room for you. Except ... iran!Quote:
Originally Posted by Instinct
I'm Turkish i speak from turkish perspective. Turkish+iranian alliance could beat wahhabis and maybe zionists too. Now it's too fucked up(balanced) Non-muslims decide what happens in muslim countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by KawaiiKawaii
You poor cahil laz, you have no homeland. We enjoy secularism in Turkey and you shit radicalism in Christian countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
I'm the example of harmony between different ethnicities in turkey. I'm part laz but i'm ready to die for turkey. Turk,kurd,laz,circassian,georgian,bosniak they are all turkish to me. But you're shia leftover. You should go to iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by Instinct
That's why you are not a Turkish Nationalist (Secular) and this is why you hate Atatürk. You even didn't complete your military job in Turkey however I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
Now I bought my ticket to Tehran xD and I'll get a beautiful persian woman there. Bye bye.
F..k off.Don't come back.....
butthurt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
Iran is already sending missionnaries to turkey, they kidnap alevi children and teach them with shia indoctrinations and later send them back to turkey, i believe in qum they have a center for it.
I hope you won't visit qum?