what do you get on EUtest? on pca you are closest to Serbian_Bosnia https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6344419Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
but show your nmonte3 oracle from vahaduo
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what do you get on EUtest? on pca you are closest to Serbian_Bosnia https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6344419Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
but show your nmonte3 oracle from vahaduo
Add this Lithuanian A146377, Baltic 60.18
Lithuanian2,25.86,60.18,5.87,3.75,0.05,0.42,0.35 ,0.00,0.30,1.60,0.85,0.00,0.76
EUTest is better, because I am closer to Serbian average than to Croatian and Slovenian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemgrant
https://i.imgur.com/VNYYdne.jpg
I will make average of fully Dalmatian and BiH samples I have (Southern Croat), will post it here to be added when i's ready.
Eurogenes K13
I added Serbian average from Poreklo forum.
Srbi-Poreklo,25.13,30.14,16.53,8.71,15.37,1.75,0.37,0.2 9,0.84,0.35,0.30,0.04,0.10
Now it has more sense for me - closer to Serbian average than to Croatians and Slovenians.
https://i.imgur.com/Zl8ZpEU.jpg
Eurogenes K13
Target: Cumansky
Distance: 3.6691% / 3.66910548
57.8 Lithuanian2
15.2 Moroccan_Jew
13.0 East_Finnish
8.0 Romanian_Muntenia
6.0 Spanish_Valencia
Target: Cumansky
Distance: 4.8000% / 4.80002473 | ADC: 0.25x
42.2 South_Polish
26.6 Lithuanian2
14.6 Serbian_Bosnia
8.0 RU_Pinega
5.6 Romanian_Muntenia
3.0 Yemenite_Jewish
Target: Cumansky
Distance: 6.6546% / 6.65462699 | ADC: 0.5x
74.4 South_Polish
14.0 Erzya
7.0 Serbian_Bosnia
4.6 Lithuanian2
Target: Cumansky
Distance: 7.6265% / 7.62645486 | ADC: 1x
98.2 South_Polish
1.8 Erzya
Target: Cumansky
Distance: 7.7457% / 7.74573431 | ADC: 2x
100.0 South_Polish
Question: What's more accurate for Europeans. K13 or K15?
On k13 my mother is closest to Austrian but on K15 she is pretty far away from Austria (I think only 7. closest distance) and is much closer to (South Dutch, East German, North German etc.) Seems strange since both are considered to be pretty accurate.
I have seen many results where EUtest is just better than Eurogenes K13 and K15. I did not randomly chose it for my EUtest pca tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Actually I don't have for K13 and K15 or forgot where I store it. Can you resend it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Ok I will. Sorry forgot to add.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
EUTestQuote:
Originally Posted by Lemgrant
https://i.imgur.com/mHfMNaj.jpg
EUTest is better than K13.
:)))))))))) You mean from him? Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u5T_mmh0Bgc/maxresdefault.jpg
Eurogenes K13
Target: Cumansky_Father
Distance: 2.9205% / 2.92051818
55.2 Lithuanian2
11.4 Finnish
9.0 Spanish_Valencia
8.4 Moroccan_Jew
7.4 North_Swedish
7.4 Romanian_Muntenia
1.2 Lebanese_Druze
Target: Cumansky_Father
Distance: 3.9507% / 3.95068982 | ADC: 0.25x
78.2 South_Polish
16.8 Lithuanian2
2.4 Yemenite_Jewish
2.2 Finnish
0.4 Karitiana
Target: Cumansky_Father
Distance: 4.7160% / 4.71604878 | ADC: 0.5x
90.0 South_Polish
8.0 Lithuanian2
2.0 RU_Pinega
Target: Cumansky_Father
Distance: 5.4911% / 5.49113832 | ADC: 1x
100.0 South_Polish
Target: Cumansky_Father
Distance: 5.4911% / 5.49113832 | ADC: 2x
100.0 South_Polish
Eurogenes K13
Target: Cumansky_Mother
Distance: 4.7706% / 4.77060124
63.8 Lithuanian2
9.4 Moroccan_Jew
8.4 East_Finnish
7.2 Romanian_Muntenia
5.0 Sardinian
4.4 Yemenite_Jewish
1.8 Yoruban
Target: Cumansky_Mother
Distance: 5.9969% / 5.99690112 | ADC: 0.25x
73.4 Southwest_Russian
16.0 Lithuanian2
10.0 Tunisian
0.6 Sardinian
Target: Cumansky_Mother
Distance: 6.9023% / 6.90225193 | ADC: 0.5x
95.0 Southwest_Russian
5.0 Tunisian
Target: Cumansky_Mother
Distance: 8.1789% / 8.17891672 | ADC: 1x
85.8 Southwest_Russian
14.2 Ukrainian
Target: Cumansky_Mother
Distance: 8.3200% / 8.31998197 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Southwest_Russian
Your EUTest pca tool is great. It should become more popular and more used than K15 pca.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemgrant
Cous cousQuote:
Originally Posted by Cumansky
Shawarma mans for lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
Serbian average from Poreklo addded, check now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
If someone wonders which calc is most popular on Vahaduo.
https://i.imgur.com/IMVqTT5.png
Great! :thumb001: It makes more sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukasz
https://i.imgur.com/oXodlpR.jpg
Please add this K13 average!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukasz
Southern_Croat,25.20,33.84,15.77,6.43,13.46,1.99,0.67,0.37,0.82, 0.66,0.11,0.02,0.28
I included only pure Dalmatian and BiH Croats that I know for 100% what they are. Also included some TA members samples like that of Ljubic's father.
addedQuote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
This is how it plots:
Distance to: Southern_Croat
2.66966992 Serbian_Bosnia
3.52294706 Bosnian
4.39005695 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
4.76859518 Moldavian
4.84614116 Serbian_new
5.47492466 Croatian
5.92794825 Slovenian
6.01754934 Csango_Gymes
6.12022058 Szekely
8.44426433 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
Would it be worth it to create a calculator that removes any regional results, and focus on which ethnic groups (countries) we'd be closest to, or do you think that's useless?
For example, my Top 10 is all Greek, Italian and Jewish, only different regions of each one.
Someone could say original Moldavian reference is wrong, but user added North Moldova is even closer to West Balkan. It is real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Target: MH
Distance: 0.5684% / 0.56838713
Southeast_English 18.4
Albanian 16.6
North_Macedonian 13.0
South_Polish 12.8
Romanian_Muntenia 12.0
Southwest_Finnish 5.6
East_Finnish 4.8
Spanish_Valencia 4.6
GR_Peloponese 3.6
Serbian_Bosnia 2.6
Belorussian 2.2
North_Italian 1.8
Sardinian 1.4
Lebanese_Druze 0.6
Target: MH
Distance: 1.1451% / 1.14508419 | ADC: 0.25x
Hungarian 32.8
Serbian_new 16.8
Montenegrin 15.2
Romanian_Muntenia 9.2
Spanish_Valencia 8.6
French 7.0
Szekely 5.4
West_German 5.0
Target: MH
Distance: 2.2182% / 2.21819205 | ADC: 0.5x
Montenegrin 42.4
Austrian 21.2
Szekely 18.8
French 10.2
Hungarian 6.8
Spanish_Cataluna 0.6
Target: MH
Distance: 3.8441% / 3.84414397 | ADC: 1x
Szekely 40.0
Montenegrin 34.8
Austrian 25.2
Target: MH
Distance: 6.4005% / 6.40052342 | ADC: 2x
Szekely 100.0
https://imgur.com/a/yDnPZUB
New results for my dad don't make sense. He is pure Croat by origin and until now clustered with Croatian average everywhere.
Distance to: Tata
3.59145340 Serbian_Bosnia
3.99396854 Slovenian
4.77263030 Szekely
4.91140509 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
4.99816660 Bosnian
5.10616294 Southern_Croat
5.46942410 Hungarian
5.60133913 Csango_Gymes
5.66262293 Serbian_new
5.72463099 Moldavian
5.73887620 Croatian
7.98850161 Slovak
8.76977195 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
9.53236166 Montenegrin
9.84148363 Czech
there are academic samples from ApuseniQuote:
Originally Posted by andre
it's not calculator, this is nmonte3 oracle, you can delete any references in "source" tab and run it with just selected populations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markos
Bosnian Serb average clusters too northern, it's closer to Bosniaks and southern Croats than to Serb average, even to new Serb average.
Now my father appears to be Serb. Fucking bullshit!
https://media.giphy.com/media/143cE5FtVmKrNC/giphy.gif
He has nothing to do with Serbs. Zero, nulla, 0.
So you're creating new averages?
I refuse to take further part in discussion until more realistic averages are added.
So much new stuff
Code:Target: Fellow
Distance: 3.7781% / 3.77814527 | ADC: 0.5x
60.2 Romanian_Muntenia
19.0 Montenegrin
9.8 French
9.2 Hungarian
1.8 West_German
Target: Fellow
Distance: 2.9793% / 2.97932177 | ADC: 0.25x
65.0 Romanian_Muntenia
21.6 Hungarian
8.6 Spanish_Valencia
3.6 Southeast_English
1.0 Yemenite_Jewish
0.2 Karitiana
Target: Fellow
Distance: 2.1741% / 2.17406942
48.0 Romanian_Muntenia
15.6 Ashkenazi
11.8 Spanish_Valencia
11.4 Southwest_Finnish
6.8 Belorussian
5.8 Southeast_English
0.6 Karitiana
EUTestCode:Distance to: Fellow
5.89078981 Montenegrin
6.66183909 Romanian_Oltenia
6.71412690 Romanian_Muntenia
6.87212942 Macedonian
7.47320547 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
7.77219604 North_Macedonian
7.79717979 Serbian_new
8.85023728 Bulgarian
9.22117671 Szekely
9.67309865 Serbian_Bosnia
10.12448102 Bosnian
10.22803989 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
10.82456928 Csango_Gymes
11.31946112 Southern_Croat
12.17555378 Kosovar
12.29712161 Albanian
12.92885532 Hungarian
13.16544716 Slovenian
13.50722399 Moldavian
15.26827430 Croatian
15.41376333 Austrian
15.91270876 Greek_Thessaly
16.10087265 North_Italian
16.79286753 GR_Macedonia
17.40977788 Slovak
Code:Distance to: Fellow
6.33497435 Romanian
6.65052629 Serbian
8.12463384 SerbianBosnia
9.19462887 Bulgarian_1
10.07238303 Hungarian
10.46748776 Moldavian_1
11.60507217 Austrian
12.08587192 Slovenian_1
12.58973348 Croatian
12.71368947 Kosovar_1
13.66333781 Albanian_1
15.68702649 North_Italian
15.88413556 Czech
16.31227452 Slovakian_1
19.43561679 Tuscan
19.55901838 French
20.06746122 West_&_Central_German
20.68887624 Portugese
21.66946238 Ukrainian
21.77574798 Polish
21.83511392 Dutch
22.65796328 spanish
23.53265391 Ukrainian-Russian
24.10525876 English
24.21803873 Cornish
Code:Target: Fellow
Distance: 4.4388% / 4.43881311 | ADC: 0.5x
50.6 Romanian
39.0 SerbianBosnia
10.4 North_Italian
Target: Fellow
Distance: 4.1168% / 4.11678672 | ADC: 0.25x
48.0 SerbianBosnia
36.2 Romanian
8.4 Tuscan
6.8 North_Italian
0.6 Sardinian
Target: Fellow
Distance: 3.5728% / 3.57279974
42.2 Slovakian_1
30.0 Romanian
11.8 North_Italian
6.0 Sardinian
5.8 Druze
3.8 Tuscan
0.2 Chinese
0.2 Yoruba
Good bye!Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Lol, you are all the same shutupQuote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
K13 is shit too, you can't fix something that foundation is already broken because is popular calc or some shit, Gedrosia K12 post that for your real result by Dilawer Khan
Serbian OWD, adding Serb averages to push your wog tribe closer to Croats. Fuck you and manipulative Servs. This fake average that was added is miles apart from academic Serb samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Genetics don’t follow national borders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markos
Good bye bitch. I don't fucking care about Croats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Average from Poreklo is real Serbian average, and I am closer to them than to Croats.
in EUtest, SerbianBosnia is from academic samplesQuote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy