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My Y-DNA haplogroup is R1b1b2a1a, (according to 23andme), although I've heard they do not test for the P312 SNP, so I may belong to a downstream sub-clade in reality.
Anyone care to comment on the possibility this haplogroup was spread throughout Western Europe by the Bell Beakers?
Sean
23andme tests for P312. I've seen many people getting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolucid
Alex, according to the posts on 23andme, it seems they used to test for it on their V2 chip, however, the newer V3 chip they've been using now has been having trouble with it. Again, this is only what I had heard on the site.
Sean
R1a - quiet common here
R1b here, the most common apparently.
My Haplogoup is :
1- E1b1a7a E-U174 Z1704 + U174 + P9.2-P116-P115-P113-L372-
2- Halogroup Mtdna L2a1c1
E1b1b1. I do not have any 0-step match from Southern Europe. My matches are Swiss, German, English. 1-step matches are 70% from Central and Northwestern Europe
Which one? What does 23andme say?Quote:
Originally Posted by safinator
So me belonging to R1b1b2a would mean I do not possibly belong to some clade downstream?Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolucid
R1b1b2a (L-23 that is)Quote:
Originally Posted by Solin
Tested by the company: https://my.familytreedna.com/
My Haplogoup is :
1- E1b1a7a E-U174 Z1704 + U174 + P9.2-P116-P115-P113-L372-
2- Halogroup Mtdna L2a1c1
Mine's J2*.
Anybody know anything about this? Especially the "*"?
Dear Friend Constantine13! haplogroup J subclade what your deep?
http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpJ.html
Mines the same as Grahams, on my profile right here
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J2 has a very wide distribution, from India to Italy, but different subclades are associated with different ancient groups. The "*" means you have not tested positive for any of the subclades, which is pretty rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Constantine13
Y-DNA: J2b2* (M241)
The paternal line comes from the region of ancient Bythinia. The hometown Sakarya (turkish for Sangarius, the phrygian river god) was also the homeland of the Phrygians.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8388/8...99cf87c3_o.jpgQuote:
The Northern hotspot in Anatolia on the J2b2 heatmap corresponds to the territory of the ancient Bithynians and Phrygians. The Bithynians are immigrants to Asia Minor from the Balkans, their original homeland is situated in Thrace were they were called the Thyni. Phrygians (ca. 1200 - 700 BC) are also ancient immigrants to Anatolia from the Balkans (Macedonia) were they were originally known as the Bryges. The Phrygians were allied to Troy and participated in the Trojan wars. Phrygians are also known for the Gordian Knot legend which together with their Macedonian ancestry links them to Alexander the Great and for their Phrygian Cap which would be the hat the god Mithras (popular with Roman Legionnaires) is wearing. Herodotus claims the Phrygians founded the Armenian Nation. Both areas were also Roman provinces. The origin history of the people/region in the south of Asia Minor is slightly harder to connect directly to the Balkans/Greece but it is situated roughly were we find the Hellenized Armenian Seleucid Kingdom(s)
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My y DNA is j1c3 or j1e per 23andme. My dad was Jewish, his family resided in Romania and some of the Baltic countries.
23andme says I have up to 45 percent Ashkenazi ancestry.
Subclade of I-M26 here. Pretty weird STR markers, i have only a single match (1 step @ 12 markers) also from Germany. Did the TMRCA calculator a few times with my "closest" matches (41-step @ 67) and with these results and other calculations my line must've split from I-PF4088 around 4000 years ago. Pretty sure if i would do a WTY a ton of new snps would be decovered. I still wonder why they've taken a ton of sardinian M26 samples and none continental/northern M26 samples for Geno 2.0) . No wonder all the very distantly related german/english/scottish/walisian/swiss lines are presented as one subclade ... ridiculous.
Still a very rare subclade and nearly unique str-cluster, what makes it interesting, but sometimes i envy my R1b-U106>L48 cousins for there very detailed knowledge about their line and what people carried it.
It does feel like knowledge of I in general advances a bit slower than R1 in general, i guess because it is less common. Although with an unusual lineage like yourself there's often almost no information about it. I need to send back a sample to FTDNA and then upgrade it to see what subgroup of I1-AS i'm in. I got it over 6 months ago but keep forgetting to send it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Armatus
The same situation was with R1a till the 2009-2010, the first breakthrough was a discovery of M458 by Underhill, then the Z280,Z284, Z93 and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackson
Now we have a flood of new SNPs, thanks to full genome sequencing R1a-L1029 got 37 new mutations!. My branch ,"Volga-Carpathian", will have many new SNPs soon.
I1-Z140 got 41 new SNPs by the way. It looks like Nordtvedt isn't going to be a smartass anymore.
Thanks to the hard work of Francalacci, Pozniak and Mendez(Francalacci used Sardinian I2, Pozniak used Q) we have quite secure, averaged mutation rate of ~0.7 x 10^-9 per nucleotide per year.
J2 here.
i havent tested yet,im Highlander (North Albania) ,with Dinarid and mediterranean phenotype.
E-M84, known as E1b1b1c1a in 23andme's longform, but as E1b1b1b2a1a in Isogg's 2013 update.
This is a great article about my ydna:
http://rjgg.org/index.php/RJGG/article/download/48/59
Have you watched the video, gave me creeps lol.. Video is about ancient times without separation of E1b1b1c1(our father) on Jews, Christains, Zoroastrians..Quote:
Originally Posted by FaerieQueene
Wow, it was interesting. I tried searching youtube about it before but there was nothing, I guess they are there now. I also found this, also a bit sinister:Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49OqadoC2gs
I'm R1a. - M198.
I'm still waiting on my 67 marker results from FTDNA speculated to be with me at the end of this month. My 37 marker has me matched with two people, one English lad and a Norwegian bloke.
You have an y-dna match with lady? Are you sure he is "lady" ? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf Talented
Now seriously, have you got tested by an FTDNA?
Interestingly enough, I thought I misread their name at first but honest to God it states as female name with Ms. ( Ms. Julia ) at the front on a Y37 marker match at genetic distance 4. I'd post the full name but then there's privacy confidential issues with that. Unless that's her father's YDNA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
And yes I did, still awaiting my 67 marker results :)
I think you are right, that could be her father's Y-DNAQuote:
Originally Posted by Wulf Talented
Have you joined this project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1a/ ? Project staff is very heplful and professional, IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf Talented
I certainly have! I've been talking with Larry quite recently about my R1a. He speculates it to be Norse, but there's a difficulty defining it with my YCAIIB result being 22. My matches, geographic location and etc would link me to Norse, most of my STR values would identify with Norse also... So it's best I wait for those 67 markers. Hopefully within 2 weeks :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
So probably a Z284 over here, I just wonder to which other downstream SNPs you are positive to. Rather L448 as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Wulf Talented
I'm E-V13.
I'll probably start testing SNPs after the 67 marker results, it'll be interesting also. What SNP's could I potentially be positive too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
I don't think I can make such far-fetched conclusions. Let's wait for 67 markers and oppinions of experts on Z284Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf Talented
Ok, sounds good! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
Full 67 markers received, I spoke to Larry and he suspects me to be Z284*!Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
I think at some point I'll skip the Y-111 and go straight for the Big Y test at FTDNA, not yet though :)
I forgot too add...
Z287+ CTS8401+ Z281- Clade Z287, subclade CTS8401, cluster E3B
My Y-DNA Haplogroup is J2a4h2, also called J-M530. Based on a big sample of 808 Bulgarians, it is 2.4% of the male population in Bulgaria. It is slightly more common in the Central and Western parts of the country. My maches on Family Tree DNA are Chatolic Germans from Bavaria, a Russian, a Russian Jew,Polish Jew, a bunch of Italians,German speaking Swiss,Irish these are the closes, more far I have a Greek,Armenian,Hungarian from Romania,some more Italians and two Polish Jews. From the tested Bulgarians I am closest to a guy from Aegean Thrace and a big and famous family from Ohrid :)
Soon I am going to upgrade to 67 markers,then I would have done everything I could possible do on Family Tree DNA with the male line :)