Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

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Originally Posted by Dick

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He is correct, there is a North Balkan Slavo-Vlach supercluster.
For example troll IncelSlayer and me live on two opposite extremes of Balkan Peninsula, separated by 1000 km on almost exact latitude:

https://i.imgur.com/6lLayqb.png

Both are industrial shithole cities. Pretty interesting xD

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

He is correct, there is a North Balkan Slavo-Vlach supercluster.
For example troll IncelSlayer and me live on two opposite extremes of Balkan Peninsula, separated by 1000 km on almost exact latitude:

https://i.imgur.com/6lLayqb.png

Both are industrial shithole cities. Pretty interesting xD

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Can you check how close he is to this sample?

Romanian_Botosani,22.52,33.55,15.3,9.67,13.39,2.08 ,1.2,0.4,1.78,0,0 ,0,0

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He is still closest to Croats :p

https://i.imgur.com/iRNRvCi.png

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

He is correct, there is a North Balkan Slavo-Vlach supercluster.
For example troll IncelSlayer and me live on two opposite extremes of Balkan Peninsula, separated by 1000 km on almost exact latitude:

https://i.imgur.com/6lLayqb.png

Both are industrial shithole cities. Pretty interesting xD

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Okay. Can you post some quotes on people from the Dinarics speaking Romance (from that time period)? I haven't really heard of such people and info isn't easy to find on them.

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well surnames like Šegota and Krmpota definitely aren't Slavic, but they aren't East Balkan Romance(Romanian, Aromanian, Istro-Romanian) either. In my opinion Bunjevci are a West Balkan Vlach group, like those early Vlach tribes from Montenegro and Herzegovina.

btw it's gramatically hard to derive the word Bunjevac from river Buna. it's more likely from pre-Slavic stone houses "Bunje" or from the name Bunj which was recorded among medieval Vlachs in Kosovo, so Bunjevci could mean descendants of Bunj.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

well surnames like Šegota and Krmpota definitely aren't Slavic, but they aren't East Balkan Romance(Romanian, Aromanian, Istro-Romanian) either. In my opinion Bunjevci are a West Balkan Vlach group, like those early Vlach tribes from Montenegro and Herzegovina.

btw it's gramatically hard to derive the word Bunjevac from river Buna. it's more likely from pre-Slavic stone houses "Bunje" or from the name Bunj which was recorded among medieval Vlachs in Kosovo, so Bunjevci could mean descendants of Bunj.

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Their distant origins may have been Vlach, but around the time they got assimilated under the Croat identity, wouldn't it have been more likely for them to have been Slavic-speaking by then?

The similarity between Bunjevac and Bunja may be a coincidence, but they're believed by scholars to have originated somewhere near that river.

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Their distant origins may have been Vlach, but around the time they got assimilated under the Croat identity, wouldn't it have been more likely for them to have been Slavic-speaking by then?

The similarity between Bunjevac and Bunja may be a coincidence, but they're believed by scholars to have originated somewhere near that river.

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Surely. They are also bit more Slavic than Vlach genetically, and in ydna mostly Slavic.

My father after I add latest Romanian average:

https://i.imgur.com/4R3UIhF.png

:)

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Their distant origins may have been Vlach, but around the time they got assimilated under the Croat identity, wouldn't it have been more likely for them to have been Slavic-speaking by then?

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yes, i think when they came, they spoke and spread with them the shtokavian ikavian dialect

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Originally Posted by Mingle

The similarity between Bunjevac and Bunja may be a coincidence, but they're believed by scholars to have originated somewhere near that river.

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the river is called Buna, not Bunja, and it's very small stream, not an actual river, not many people can originate from there. but they could originate somewhere from the larger Herzegovina and Montnegro area.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Surely. They are also bit more Slavic genetically, and in ydna mostly Slavic.

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Around what period do you think Bunjevci/Morlach "Vlachs" (you say they were Vlachs before) adopted the Croat identity?

Around the late Middle Ages/post-Ottoman invasion of the Balkans?

If so, around that period, there were only Slavic-speakers in the Dinarics. Do you think they had their own distinct Slavic identity separate to both Serbs and Croats before becoming Croats or what?