his k13 is pretty similar to that full Bunjevac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
what's the history of that area? the local Croats are Bunjevci from West Herzegovina and Serbs originate from Herzegovina, Montenegro and Serbia, i suppose?
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his k13 is pretty similar to that full Bunjevac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
what's the history of that area? the local Croats are Bunjevci from West Herzegovina and Serbs originate from Herzegovina, Montenegro and Serbia, i suppose?
Yes, so called Croatians from Vrlika are Bunjevci.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Vrlika Bunjevci originated from W. Herzegovina, Livno, Duvno, Rama, and Serbs from Duvno and Herzegovina (all 3 ones western, eastern and old).
For example Serbian family Bodrožić from Vrlika area originated probably fom Trebinje area, and Serbian families Barišić, Milaš/Miloš and Četnik originated from Duvno, and Serbian families Marčetić and Cvitkovac originated probably from western Herzegovina (southeast of Duvno).
Bunjevci have nothing in common with original čakavian Croats, or with kaykavian ones who are Slovenes in denial, except Roman Catholic religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
Yes, even Feiichy admited that full Bunjevci are Serb alike autosomally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
People from Lwow/Lviv oblast, Ukraine. I don't know how Slavic they are but they were all born there
K13
K15Code:Father
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.46
2 North_Atlantic 25.46
3 East_Med 14.48
4 West_Med 13.98
5 West_Asian 9.22
6 Siberian 1.77
7 Red_Sea 1.7
8 East_Asian 0.83
9 Northeast_African 0.6
10 Amerindian 0.37
11 South_Asian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.49
2 Serbian 4.65
3 Croatian 6.55
4 Hungarian 7.42
5 Romanian 7.83
6 Bulgarian 9.86
7 Austrian 11.9
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.58
9 East_German 12.91
10 South_Polish 13.17
11 Ukrainian 13.75
12 Southwest_Russian 16.68
13 Polish 16.79
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.99
15 West_German 18.26
16 Greek_Thessaly 18.63
17 Russian_Smolensk 18.69
18 Estonian_Polish 19.15
19 Belorussian 19.64
20 South_Dutch 19.78
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.3% Bulgarian + 29.7% Finnish @ 1.08
2 71.8% Romanian + 28.2% Belorussian @ 1.39
3 83.2% Serbian + 16.8% Erzya @ 1.42
4 70.7% Bulgarian + 29.3% Estonian @ 1.42
5 68.4% Romanian + 31.6% Southwest_Russian @ 1.45
6 71.3% Romanian + 28.7% Estonian_Polish @ 1.52
7 76% Romanian + 24% Lithuanian @ 1.64
8 52% Estonian + 48% Central_Greek @ 1.65
9 70.9% Romanian + 29.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.72
10 75.5% Romanian + 24.5% Estonian @ 1.74
11 71.5% Bulgarian + 28.5% East_Finnish @ 1.75
12 66.1% South_Polish + 33.9% Central_Greek @ 1.79
13 57.4% Bulgarian + 42.6% South_Polish @ 1.81
14 76.1% Romanian + 23.9% East_Finnish @ 1.81
15 64.4% Ukrainian + 35.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.82
16 56.3% Estonian_Polish + 43.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.83
17 67.1% South_Polish + 32.9% East_Sicilian @ 1.84
18 68.9% Romanian + 31.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.85
19 64.2% Romanian + 35.8% Ukrainian @ 1.88
20 79.6% Serbian + 20.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.88
Mother
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 42.7
2 North_Atlantic 23.89
3 West_Med 14.58
4 East_Med 10.59
5 West_Asian 3.79
6 South_Asian 2.03
7 Amerindian 1.6
8 Siberian 0.38
9 Red_Sea 0.33
10 Northeast_African 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 6.51
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.01
3 Croatian 7.71
4 South_Polish 8.31
5 Southwest_Russian 8.81
6 Polish 9.56
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.82
8 Moldavian 9.85
9 Estonian_Polish 10.14
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.41
11 Belorussian 11.24
12 Hungarian 12.83
13 Kargopol_Russian 13.1
14 Erzya 14.62
15 Lithuanian 14.97
16 East_German 15.56
17 Serbian 15.7
18 Estonian 15.7
19 Austrian 16.75
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.24
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% Southwest_Russian + 13.4% Sardinian @ 4.01
2 75.6% Estonian_Polish + 24.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.47
3 66.4% Lithuanian + 33.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.56
4 82.9% Estonian_Polish + 17.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.56
5 75.6% Lithuanian + 24.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.66
6 84.9% Estonian_Polish + 15.1% Sardinian @ 4.72
7 68.6% Estonian_Polish + 31.4% Bulgarian @ 4.73
8 81.6% Estonian_Polish + 18.4% South_Italian @ 4.77
9 80.5% Estonian_Polish + 19.5% Ashkenazi @ 4.79
10 83.2% Estonian_Polish + 16.8% Italian_Jewish @ 4.83
11 79.9% Estonian_Polish + 20.1% Central_Greek @ 4.84
12 80.4% Estonian_Polish + 19.6% East_Sicilian @ 4.86
13 85.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 14.4% Sardinian @ 4.91
14 80.3% Estonian_Polish + 19.7% West_Sicilian @ 4.93
15 58.1% Lithuanian + 41.9% Bulgarian @ 4.99
16 72.3% Lithuanian + 27.7% Ashkenazi @ 5
17 73.8% Lithuanian + 26.2% South_Italian @ 5
18 91.4% Ukrainian + 8.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.01
19 75.9% Lithuanian + 24.1% Italian_Jewish @ 5.03
20 89.9% Ukrainian + 10.1% Ashkenazi @ 5.03
Daughter
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.27
2 North_Atlantic 25.64
3 West_Med 12.99
4 East_Med 12.03
5 West_Asian 4.43
6 Red_Sea 1.63
7 Amerindian 1.2
8 South_Asian 0.93
9 East_Asian 0.82
10 Siberian 0.53
11 Oceanian 0.26
12 Sub-Saharan 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 5.13
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.94
3 Ukrainian 7.29
4 Moldavian 7.36
5 South_Polish 7.7
6 Hungarian 9.45
7 Southwest_Russian 10.03
8 Polish 10.24
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.88
10 Russian_Smolensk 11.74
11 Estonian_Polish 11.76
12 Serbian 12.27
13 Belorussian 12.4
14 East_German 13.1
15 Austrian 13.81
16 Kargopol_Russian 14.71
17 Romanian 15.76
18 Erzya 16.44
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.67
20 Estonian 16.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.3% Estonian_Polish + 21.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.28
2 74.4% Estonian_Polish + 25.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.38
3 78.3% Estonian_Polish + 21.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.39
4 69.1% Estonian_Polish + 30.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.4
5 74.9% Estonian_Polish + 25.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.52
6 68% Belorussian + 32% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.59
7 71.4% Lithuanian + 28.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.6
8 66.7% Lithuanian + 33.3% West_Sicilian @ 2.62
9 76.4% Estonian_Polish + 23.6% South_Italian @ 2.62
10 71.4% Lithuanian + 28.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.75
11 60.6% Lithuanian + 39.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.77
12 74.8% Estonian_Polish + 25.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.77
13 77.5% Belorussian + 22.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.79
14 60.1% Estonian_Polish + 39.9% Bulgarian @ 2.83
15 78.6% Estonian_Polish + 21.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.85
16 74.3% Estonian_Polish + 25.7% Central_Greek @ 2.88
17 83.7% Ukrainian + 16.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.91
18 73.5% Belorussian + 26.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.92
19 67.3% Lithuanian + 32.7% Ashkenazi @ 2.93
20 75.5% Belorussian + 24.5% South_Italian @ 2.98
The father is R-M512, the mother is H5Code:Father
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.58
2 Atlantic 16.76
3 North_Sea 16.55
4 Eastern_Euro 13.24
5 East_Med 9.79
6 West_Asian 9.7
7 West_Med 9.36
8 Red_Sea 1.93
9 Siberian 1.18
10 Southeast_Asian 0.41
11 Northeast_African 0.41
12 Amerindian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.84
2 Croatian 5.3
3 Serbian 6.21
4 Romanian 6.99
5 Hungarian 7.74
6 Austrian 7.89
7 Bulgarian 9.26
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.21
9 South_Polish 11.34
10 Ukrainian 12.23
11 East_German 12.24
12 Russian_Smolensk 13.92
13 Polish 13.96
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.06
15 Southwest_Russian 14.69
16 Belorussian 16.36
17 Estonian_Polish 16.52
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.53
19 Greek_Thessaly 17.59
20 Kargopol_Russian 17.75
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% Romanian + 33.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.43
2 70.6% Romanian + 29.4% Belorussian @ 1.66
3 68.3% Romanian + 31.7% Southwest_Russian @ 1.67
4 70.8% Romanian + 29.2% Estonian_Polish @ 1.74
5 67.3% Romanian + 32.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.75
6 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Turkish @ 1.77
7 89.2% Croatian + 10.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.93
8 74.7% Romanian + 25.3% Lithuanian @ 1.98
9 89.3% Croatian + 10.7% Assyrian @ 1.98
10 89.3% Croatian + 10.7% Armenian @ 2.07
11 55.3% Bulgarian + 44.7% South_Polish @ 2.07
12 67.4% Romanian + 32.6% Polish @ 2.11
13 87.9% Croatian + 12.1% Azeri @ 2.14
14 62.6% Romanian + 37.4% South_Polish @ 2.14
15 90% Croatian + 10% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.16
16 89.8% Croatian + 10.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.18
17 88.7% Croatian + 11.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.19
18 67.7% Bulgarian + 32.3% Estonian @ 2.2
19 60.5% Bulgarian + 39.5% Polish @ 2.2
20 89.1% Croatian + 10.9% Kurdish @ 2.31
Mother
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.4
2 North_Sea 19.86
3 Eastern_Euro 19.06
4 Atlantic 11.53
5 West_Med 10.65
6 East_Med 5.78
7 West_Asian 3.62
8 South_Asian 1.11
9 Amerindian 0.81
10 Red_Sea 0.1
11 Northeast_African 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 4.89
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.35
3 South_Polish 6.81
4 Croatian 8.01
5 Moldavian 8.22
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.68
7 Polish 8.69
8 Southwest_Russian 8.79
9 Russian_Smolensk 9.19
10 Estonian_Polish 10.07
11 Belorussian 10.21
12 Hungarian 10.72
13 Kargopol_Russian 12.15
14 Estonian 12.4
15 Lithuanian 12.43
16 Erzya 13.33
17 Austrian 14.07
18 East_German 14.48
19 East_Finnish 14.74
20 Serbian 14.92
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% Ukrainian + 6% Cyprian @ 3.95
2 94.6% Ukrainian + 5.4% Samaritan @ 3.97
3 94.8% Ukrainian + 5.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.02
4 90.6% Ukrainian + 9.4% Greek @ 4.04
5 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.05
6 93.6% Ukrainian + 6.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.06
7 94% Ukrainian + 6% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.06
8 94.5% Ukrainian + 5.5% Sardinian @ 4.06
9 95% Ukrainian + 5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.1
10 95% Ukrainian + 5% Palestinian @ 4.16
11 92.4% Ukrainian + 7.6% Ashkenazi @ 4.16
12 93.8% Ukrainian + 6.2% Italian_Jewish @ 4.16
13 94.4% Ukrainian + 5.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.16
14 93.3% Ukrainian + 6.7% South_Italian @ 4.17
15 94.9% Ukrainian + 5.1% Jordanian @ 4.18
16 92.6% Ukrainian + 7.4% Central_Greek @ 4.18
17 94.8% Ukrainian + 5.2% Syrian @ 4.18
18 94.8% Ukrainian + 5.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.19
19 95.3% Ukrainian + 4.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.19
20 95.3% Ukrainian + 4.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.21
Daughter
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.61
2 North_Sea 20.82
3 Eastern_Euro 17.8
4 Atlantic 13.45
5 West_Med 9.04
6 East_Med 7.47
7 West_Asian 4.39
8 Red_Sea 1.57
9 Amerindian 0.73
10 South_Asian 0.47
11 Southeast_Asian 0.37
12 Oceanian 0.23
13 Sub-Saharan 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 5.31
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.41
3 Moldavian 5.48
4 Ukrainian 5.66
5 South_Polish 6.37
6 Hungarian 7.01
7 Polish 8.74
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.69
9 Southwest_Russian 9.82
10 Russian_Smolensk 9.88
11 Austrian 10.44
12 Serbian 11.06
13 Belorussian 11.4
14 East_German 11.44
15 Estonian_Polish 11.46
16 Kargopol_Russian 12.74
17 Estonian 12.9
18 Finnish 13.45
19 Romanian 13.69
20 East_Finnish 13.8
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.2% Ukrainian + 11.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.77
2 87.1% Ukrainian + 12.9% Italian_Jewish @ 1.78
3 87.4% Ukrainian + 12.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.82
4 84.2% Ukrainian + 15.8% Ashkenazi @ 1.9
5 87.4% Ukrainian + 12.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.92
6 89.9% Ukrainian + 10.1% Samaritan @ 1.93
7 88.4% Ukrainian + 11.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.94
8 88.9% Ukrainian + 11.1% Cyprian @ 2
9 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2
10 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.08
11 89.9% Ukrainian + 10.1% Palestinian @ 2.11
12 85.3% Ukrainian + 14.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.21
13 85% Ukrainian + 15% Central_Greek @ 2.22
14 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.23
15 86.4% Ukrainian + 13.6% South_Italian @ 2.26
16 81.5% Ukrainian + 18.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.26
17 89.7% Ukrainian + 10.3% Jordanian @ 2.29
18 89.4% Ukrainian + 10.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.32
19 89.4% Ukrainian + 10.6% Syrian @ 2.36
20 84.8% Ukrainian + 15.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.4
even i get a little bit more Baltic that the Father. could he be a Hutsul?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
His last name sounds Polish. I can PM you their numbers and email. I agree they are pretty Southern, barely close to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
By the way, are you 32% Baltic?
Until 100 years ago chakavian and kaykavian Croatians discriminated Bunjevci and called them "Catholic Vlachs."Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Even today Fetivi from the coast and Boduli islanders call Bunjevci from Dalmatian hinterland "Vlaji."
yes, you are right, the areas north of Zagreb are usually called NW, and Sisak central i believe. i'm not sure about Bjelovar, maybe Feiichy knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
Sisak is heart of Central Croatia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
Kordun and Banija are very lowly populated regions. Bjelovar is also considered central Croatia, Međimurje not.