Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

Continuation of the previous thread https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...89#post7086489

I excluded South Asian results this time as it's better to have an own thread for it to keep things clear.

New Iranian Azerbaijani result from East-Azerbaijan province:


Gedrosian: 21.21
Siberian: 3.04
Northwest_African: 2.21
Southeast_Asian: 0.31
Atlantic_Med: 7.35
North_European: 9.69
South_Asian: 3.04
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.43
East_Asian: 3.28
Caucasian: 38.12
Sub_Saharan: 0.32

Distance to: East-Azerbaijan
2.70970478 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.80553025 Azerbaijani
3.72698269 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.67470704 Turk_Southeast
6.15380370 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.05697527 Zaza
7.14774090 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.29180362 Iraq_Turkmen
7.36713649 Kurd_Adygea
7.43571785 Yazidi
7.69601195 Kurd_Sorani
7.87692199 Turk_South
8.01293954 Turk_Central_East
8.24747234 Iran_Central
9.10224698 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.56099367 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.62840070 Turk_Central_West
9.63871361 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.63913897 Iranian_Fars
9.69464801 Iranian
9.75616216 Turk_East
10.03636887 Lur_Iran
10.51698626 Iran_Khorasan
11.51617124 Turk_Southwest
11.66547899 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: East-Azerbaijan
Distance: 1.1540% / 1.15401595 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.7 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.0 Nogai
4.2 Iran_Khorasan
2.7 Algerian

Half Turkish Kurd half Iraq Kurd

Population
Gedrosia 24.35 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.52 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.28 Pct
North_European 6.55 Pct
South_Asian 2.93 Pct
East_African 0.44 Pct
Southwest_Asian 15.77 Pct
East_Asian 0.46 Pct
Caucasus 38.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Deniz
2.80763245 Kurd_Sorani
3.22315063 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.34438335 Yazidi
4.09234652 Kurd_Adygea
4.44526715 Iraq_Turkmen
4.46563545 Zaza
5.75158239 Lur_Iran
6.03280200 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.18074429 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.06168535 Azerbaijani
7.30227362 Iranian
7.50095994 Iranian_Fars
7.86474412 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.48191606 Turk_Southeast
8.62077143 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.39914890 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.43197968 Mandean
10.63199417 Turk_East
11.15701573 Iranian_Jew
11.48554309 Azeri_Jew
11.80132196 Iran_Khorasan
11.87325566 Turk_Central_East
12.06431929 Iran_Arab
12.13154978 Assyrian_North
12.30243878 Iran_Mazandaran

Target: Deniz
Distance: 1.7808% / 1.78077644 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.2 Kurd_Sorani
26.8 Yazidi
8.6 Assyrian_North
6.7 Zaza
1.9 Spanish_Basque
0.8 Dai

75% Tat from Quba (Republic of Azerbaijan) + 25% Turk from Azerbaijan Rep.:

Gedrosian: 24.20
Siberian: 1.42
Northwest_African: 2.24
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.20
North_European: 10.58
South_Asian: 1.82
East_African: 0.27
Southwest_Asian: 9.99
East_Asian: 1.94
Caucasian: 40.34
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Tat
4.87094447 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.13871579 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.80191348 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.81243495 Azerbaijani
5.82596773 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.88045066 Kurd_Adygea
5.88867557 Zaza
6.73401069 Yazidi
7.02607999 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.84964967 Iranian
7.86498570 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.97784432 Iran_Central
8.14569825 Kurd_Sorani
9.03241385 Turk_Southeast
9.28228420 Iraq_Turkmen
9.34868440 Lur_Iran
9.79562658 Turk_East
10.06596245 Iranian_Fars
10.12445060 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
10.68147930 Turk_Central_East
11.02132478 Iran_Khorasan
11.28824167 Ingush
11.47639752 Turk_South
11.68704411 Iran_C_East
11.92223972 Iran_Mazandaran

Target: Tat
Distance: 1.8870% / 1.88697129 | ADC: 0.5x RC
38.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
32.9 Kurd_Adygea
28.3 Azerbaijani_Iran

@Kyp, do you have Qajar-tribe samples?

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Originally Posted by Gecko

@Kyp, do you have Qajar-tribe samples?

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Yes from Absheron, Azerbaijan Republic:

Gedrosian: 19.02
Siberian: 2.15
Northwest_African: 1.59
Southeast_Asian: 0.12
Atlantic_Med: 5.88
North_European: 11.28
South_Asian: 0.87
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.61
East_Asian: 3.16
Caucasian: 42.93
Sub_Saharan: 0.40

Distance to: Qajar
5.90927237 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.60031060 Azerbaijani
6.65594471 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.95345238 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.08945696 Turk_East
7.79696095 Zaza
7.85548216 Turk_Southeast
8.25650653 Turk_Central_East
8.43995853 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.59238035 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.28813221 Kurd_Adygea
9.48955215 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.49126967 Turk_South
9.77711103 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.80595227 Iraq_Turkmen
10.21538546 Kurd_Sorani
10.65277429 Yazidi
10.77387581 Turk_Central_West
10.85521994 Armenian_East
11.16012993 Adyghe
11.35617893 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.79439274 Turk_Ahiska
11.85221498 Abazin
11.91117542 Ingush
11.94697870 Circassian

Target: Qajar
Distance: 1.6351% / 1.63511588 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Kumyks
25.5 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.8 Azerbaijani
10.5 Yemenite_Mahra

More samples from the different Iranian groups. I would like to see more Tats and Iranian Kurds.

Also I've searched and searched but have not yet found a single Kurd from Arbil.

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Originally Posted by Aren

More samples from the different Iranian groups. I would like to see more Tats and Iranian Kurds.

Also I've searched and searched but have not yet found a single Kurd from Arbil.

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There are no other Tat results that I'm aware of.

Here are some Kurds from Iran (different regions):

Gedrosian: 26.34
Siberian: 0.58
Northwest_African: 2.02
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.76
North_European: 5.53
South_Asian: 3.24
East_African: 0.21
Southwest_Asian: 14.06
East_Asian: 0.53
Caucasian: 39.48
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Gedrosian: 25.72
Siberian: 0.79
Northwest_African: 2.19
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.96
North_European: 6.83
South_Asian: 2.10
East_African: 1.26
Southwest_Asian: 12.24
East_Asian: 1.89
Caucasian: 36.99
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Gedrosian: 31.18
Siberian: 1.18
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.60
Atlantic_Med: 4.98
North_European: 3.09
South_Asian: 2.08
East_African: 0.18
Southwest_Asian: 14.52
East_Asian: 0.34
Caucasian: 40.70
Sub_Saharan: 0.52

Gedrosian: 27.76
Siberian: 0.55
Northwest_African: 1.17
Southeast_Asian: 0.50
Atlantic_Med: 5.70
North_European: 4.82
South_Asian: 3.24
East_African: 0.36
Southwest_Asian: 14.63
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 41.72
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

West-Azerbaijan province:
Gedrosian: 24.41
Siberian: 0.33
Northwest_African: 1.64
Southeast_Asian: 0.88
Atlantic_Med: 8.70
North_European: 10.78
South_Asian: 1.13
East_African: 1.46
Southwest_Asian: 13.63
East_Asian: 0.27
Caucasian: 36.77
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

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Originally Posted by Aren

More samples from the different Iranian groups. I would like to see more Tats and Iranian Kurds.

Also I've searched and searched but have not yet found a single Kurd from Arbil.

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Important to not that (Azeri and Dagestani)Tats and Kurds will likely be very different.
Here is an interesting article about Muslim and Jewish tats from Dagestan:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22275152/

Tats' haplogroups were found to be similar to Kubachin and Avars:
J1-M267 65%
J2-M172 5%
R1b1-P25 25%

I read somewhere that it is likely that they are persianized Caucasians.

The Azeri DNA group is trying to find tats to perform autosomal testing.
I'll try to convince some of my pure tat relatives to take a test. But right now I suspect Azerbaijani tats will be similar to North Azeris, Lezgins and other Dagestani people. Phenotypically they look like them.

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

The Azeri DNA group is trying to find tats to perform autosomal testing.
I'll try to convince some of my pure tat relatives to take a test. But right now I suspect Azerbaijani tats will be similar to North Azeris, Lezgins and other Dagestani people. Phenotypically they look like them.

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Do you have any Lezgin Dodecad results or Gedmatch kits? We need to update the average.